The Le Mans General Discussion Thread
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Sweet! I remember them saying they wanted 30 racing days per year.
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Toyota's new livery!
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Sorry bout that, I can't edit it. But here we go...
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So we got a Pescarolo AMR-One and now a Toyota 908? Awesome. 
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That's beautiful.
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Reminds me of the very first Peugeot 908 livery in 2007. 👍
Oh Hun200kmh, I bet you to it. Posted my on the 20th of May while you posted yours on the 24th.
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ALMS will race at the Circuit of the Americas from 2013:
http://www.statesman.com/sports/american-le-mans-series-coming-to-circuit-of-2387257.html
http://www.statesman.com/sports/american-le-mans-series-coming-to-circuit-of-2387257.html
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Well, don't forget that Toyota's gone blue before:
I'm fine with that #7 livery but I'm partial to the more basic red and white scheme we've gotten used to seeing.
Feel like they could've went a lot more subtle with the blue lightning pattern, a nod at the electric power side of things, not a "LOOK AT THIS MAN LIGHTNING."
And to me, no, I didn't think Peugeot for a second when I first saw it - it's just blue, that's it.
I'm fine with that #7 livery but I'm partial to the more basic red and white scheme we've gotten used to seeing.
Feel like they could've went a lot more subtle with the blue lightning pattern, a nod at the electric power side of things, not a "LOOK AT THIS MAN LIGHTNING."
And to me, no, I didn't think Peugeot for a second when I first saw it - it's just blue, that's it.
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The GreenGT H2 prototype will replace the DeltaWing as the Garage 56 entry at Le Mans next year:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100085
Now sure what this means for the DeltaWing. I imagine they would like to expand out to become a full entry in their own right.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100085
Now sure what this means for the DeltaWing. I imagine they would like to expand out to become a full entry in their own right.
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A full entry into what? It doesn't comply with LMP1, LMP2, GTE-Pro or GTE-Am regulations.
This is the stupid thing with it - it has no purpose. Its original design was to be used as a platform for Indycars.
I don't see the ACO or FIA changing the LMP1 regulations with less than 1-year's notice nor do I see them creating a 5th class for it.
It needs its own series. At the moment there is no place for it other than as an experimental prototype.
Isn't it fantastic to have the same conversation topic going across two different threads? I wonder whose bright idea that was? Oh wait.
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The Hydrogen-Fuel Cell technology that the GreenGT H2 Prototype is the next step of engine technology and fuel efficiency for Le Mans. Hopefully more manufacturers, especially Audi and Toyota, possibly Porsche is considering this idea and could be put in use for the next rules and regulations for le mans in 2014. 👍
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The title of this thread makes it quite clear that discussion is centred on the 2012 Le Mans. The GreenGT H2, however, has been granted entry to the 2013 Le Mans. Therefore, this thread is the most-appropriate place for discussion of the GreenGT's entry.
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Yes. Especially since there's three threads with close to the same discussion (This thread, Le Mans race thread, and the Toyota thread). It'd be more organized with seperate threads. And since F1 and other series do it (even though the first post in this thread says otherwise
), but for whatever reason Le Mans can't.
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Ah, meant to post this here, didn't realize I was posting it in the 2012 Le Mans thread:
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/formula-1-powertrains-for-le-mans-in-2014/
Interesting article about 2014 regulations and the possibility of F1 engines debuting in the same year being compatible to use in WEC. They may have even drafted up the rules to accommodate this from the start. Interesting since, as they say in the articles, it'll be a great mix up between the two disciplines and get, at least engine, manufacturers looking at each other more so it's nothing but good.
Although the promised new regulation details for 2014 won't be released for at least another week, there have been a lot of informed speculation saying they're going to increase maximum engine capacity in LMP1 to 5.0 liters. Of course, 2014 spec's for F1 are V6 1.6 liters but they are turbocharged so they'll produce the same, even more, than what the propitiatory LMP1 engine makers will peak at with their take on the new engine rules.
They're going to ban variable geometry turbo chargers that are on the Audis currently for 2014.
The article also states that maximum boost pressure will be 4 bar, which is 58 PSI. So the F1 engines shouldn't be limited at all by that stipulation since I expect F1 turbos to put out around 30PSI, but won't need to go up past 50 (which is what they used to click the turbos up to back in the nutty '80s there for reference).
But they may be limited by the fact that there will be a maximum fuel flow rate. So that may more become the equalizer. But I expect them to do really well. As far as who would use them... that's the clincher, 'cause none of the top teams will right away, so it may be the LMP1"B" cars that pick them up initially. It'll definitely be an interesting sound and test for what are inherently sprint race engines compared to Le Mans.
The last time F1 and LM converged on engines it killed the WSC. These are different circumstances though.
It killed Group C as all the manufacturers just migrated to F1 or left entirely, and the privateers couldn't afford the development costs.
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/formula-1-powertrains-for-le-mans-in-2014/
Interesting article about 2014 regulations and the possibility of F1 engines debuting in the same year being compatible to use in WEC. They may have even drafted up the rules to accommodate this from the start. Interesting since, as they say in the articles, it'll be a great mix up between the two disciplines and get, at least engine, manufacturers looking at each other more so it's nothing but good.
Although the promised new regulation details for 2014 won't be released for at least another week, there have been a lot of informed speculation saying they're going to increase maximum engine capacity in LMP1 to 5.0 liters. Of course, 2014 spec's for F1 are V6 1.6 liters but they are turbocharged so they'll produce the same, even more, than what the propitiatory LMP1 engine makers will peak at with their take on the new engine rules.
They're going to ban variable geometry turbo chargers that are on the Audis currently for 2014.
The article also states that maximum boost pressure will be 4 bar, which is 58 PSI. So the F1 engines shouldn't be limited at all by that stipulation since I expect F1 turbos to put out around 30PSI, but won't need to go up past 50 (which is what they used to click the turbos up to back in the nutty '80s there for reference).
But they may be limited by the fact that there will be a maximum fuel flow rate. So that may more become the equalizer. But I expect them to do really well. As far as who would use them... that's the clincher, 'cause none of the top teams will right away, so it may be the LMP1"B" cars that pick them up initially. It'll definitely be an interesting sound and test for what are inherently sprint race engines compared to Le Mans.
The last time F1 and LM converged on engines it killed the WSC. These are different circumstances though.
It killed Group C as all the manufacturers just migrated to F1 or left entirely, and the privateers couldn't afford the development costs.
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I think Toyota's new livery is the best one yet. It's beautiful.
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- Larger cockpit for better visbility!
- Fin reduction (needs to happen for 2014)
- smaller cars: 5% narrower than current P1, maybe includes weight reduction as well.
- smaller front wheels
- energy-based formula? Interesting.
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After reading that, I also wonder the same. Perhaps it really has a function as you mentioned but in terms of cosmetic, it's kind of ugly...
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That Viper is easily the meanest looking race car I've ever seen.
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