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You keep pretending. See if it makes you happy.
The MRA, MGTOW & Red Pill Thread
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You keep pretending. See if it makes you happy.
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Have you met many women, or are you just expert on Stacey From The Internet?
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When one involves throwing a marriage away and possibly damaging others in the process, I wouldn't exactly call that a good thing.
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It's not pretending, it's implementing knowledge gained from experience. Pretending is when you pretend that you're wife isn't cheating on you in the point when sex changes, her behavior changes etc.. You understand, you're smart guy..
I've learned everything from stacy.. Dont know any women in real life..
Good luck
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Oh but it is... in this case what you're implementing from knowledge gained from "experience" is that you should pretend.
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That's not really for anyone to answer but the person involved. But I'd like to toss out that there are so many other options here besides this false dichotomy. Marriage (in general) can end in a lot of ways. People can fail each other. It does not have to be one person's fault. In fact, I'd wager a guess that most marriages end because people fail each other. I can name one marriage off the top of my head where the woman cheated after psychological abuse from the man. Both parties handled their marriage quite poorly. And failing or blame is not even really required, people can simply grow apart.
Extremely cool though is that people can grow together. Marriage can be such a shared existence.
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Starting a new movement called People Go Their Own Way And Don't Make Such A Big Deal Out Of What Other People Are Doing
Everyone is welcome in the PGTWOWADMSABDOOWOPAD, and we have an acronym that contains the word doowop, far trumping any other acronym in the game.
Everyone is welcome in the PGTWOWADMSABDOOWOPAD, and we have an acronym that contains the word doowop, far trumping any other acronym in the game.
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It's like 4Chan sprung a leak and somehow is dripping on the pipe that leads to GTPlanet. Looks like we need a plumber.
Nah, being insecure and a douche is the best way for women to lose interest in you. Nobody, both males and females, wants to be around insecure people especially if they're dicks.
Maybe if you look at teens and people in their early 20's, there could be something to this. But once you reach a certain age or maturity level, you quickly realize that ain't nobody got time for that.
Nah, being insecure and a douche is the best way for women to lose interest in you. Nobody, both males and females, wants to be around insecure people especially if they're dicks.
Maybe if you look at teens and people in their early 20's, there could be something to this. But once you reach a certain age or maturity level, you quickly realize that ain't nobody got time for that.
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I don't know that I don't understand it, per se. I actually think I do, but it's still something to wrap one's head around...or not, which I imagine is the better approach.Yeah I don't get this thread either
I'm getting an intense "male genocide" vibe from some of the positions being espoused. That isn't to say that people necessarily believe men are being literally killed off, but that there's an apparent insidious trend of systematically devaluing and degrading traditionally male gender roles by acknowledging that girls and women as a whole deserve equal standing with boys and men as a whole. It's bull pucky.
I'm reminded of an exchange elsewhere involving vasectomies and how having one is supposedly the stupidest thing a man can do.
The "shemale" bit is what stood out to me, frankly.Why does he say "Grace Jones looking" as if it's a bad thing? She was a model
Grace Jones was/is a model, but then modelling isn't necessarily about aesthetic beauty. I may be mistaken, but I figure modelling is much more about presence...and Grace Jones has that in spades. She's also a recording artist; her version of "La Vie En Rose" was massive, but I prefer her cover of "Warm Leatherette", originally by The Normal, and "Demolition Man" written for her by Sting (who later recorded it for The Police's Ghost In The Machine).
But I digress. I don't think Lashana Lynch looks anything like Jones apart from [very broadly] her skin color, and while I don't think the remark is racist in and of itself, I have the nagging suspicion that it's at least in part founded in racism.
Much more than racism, however, I suspect he just has an issue with strong women and sees Lynch's casting in that particular role (which doesn't actually involve her replacing a male actor as James Bond) as a woman being given a man's job, which he may very well believe is as a result of supposed "political correctness".
What's at the root of his apparent issue with strong women? Who knows? Maybe he had a domineering female parental figure that he resents, or an otherwise inappropriate relationship with a female parental figure. Perhaps histrionic personality disorder presented in his youth and it went unchecked, or his dad vented at him suspicions that his mom was unfaithful, which then skewed his perception of women as a whole.
Oops.It's not pretending, it's implementing knowledge gained from experience. Pretending is when you pretend that you're wife isn't cheating on you in the point when sex changes, her behavior changes etc.. You understand, you're smart guy..
I've learned everything from stacy.. Dont know any women in real life..
Good luck
This.
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It's called sarcasm.
Intelligent people are supposed to understand it.
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Basically the word I used was weak = insecure .
If you don't wont to be "blind" in relationship doesn't make you insecure. I wouldn't blindly believe anyone, it's just naive, not confident. Confidence ≠ inexperience/stupidity aren't same thing.
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No, that wasn't how you used the word and, even if you had, weakness does not equal insecurity. Everybody has weaknesses. Hiding them can be one sign of insecurity, particularly in a relationship.
I'm starting to wonder if you've met many male humans either.
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I'm a virgin who doesn't even know almost any people
I just had to let it go off my chest now.
From now on I'll just read your opinions, advices and be jealous how many girls all of you must have.
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You don't need to be blind, nor do you need to flat out just believe everything you hear. However, in a relationship communication is key and probably the most important thing you and your partner can do. If you communicate and listen, chances are you won't be blind to very much and you'll have no reason to not to believe the other person.
However, not communicating is probably a sign of insecurity, or at the very least an unhealthy relationship.
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It's one of the best responses here.
I agree with you on like 90%.
Thing is that I've had many opportunities and even took some of them to sleep with women who appeared to be in that kind of great relationships. Here comes that other 10% which probably wont fade away. If you are close to some woman, she'll most likely reach for you in even minor crisis in her relationship.
Still, thanks for being normal.
It's one of the best responses here.
I agree with you on like 90%.
Thing is that I've had many opportunities and even took some of them to sleep with women who appeared to be in that kind of great relationships. Here comes that other 10% which probably wont fade away. If you are close to some woman, she'll most likely reach for you in even minor crisis in her relationship.
Still, thanks for being normal.
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@Yard_Sale just made a post about how nobody got his joke, and it's somehow their fault that they didn't. There is a tendency among the red pill crowd (and @Yard_Sale is an example of this based on his affinities for grouping males into alpha/beta hierarchies) to get frustrated when you don't understand their humor. But that's partly because a lot of times that humor is used for ulterior motives, like hiding true beliefs, or as a litmus test for friends.
I have a longtime friend who is a red pill incel. I'm not entirely sure he knows it, but he subscribes to most of the incel mind game. His humor is often based on a dry deadpan, which people are supposed to realize is sarcastic despite no sarcastic tone. The deadpan humor in this case is partly used as a litmus test. If you don't get his sarcasm despite the lack of tone, it's because you don't know him well enough. So if you fail to get his joke, you're guilty of something far worse than simply not getting the joke or not thinking he's funny. You're guilty of not understanding who he is, and thinking that he might have been serious about his sarcastic comment. This of course is something he internalizes, which makes him feel worse about himself, more misunderstood, more disconnected.
This sense of humor is designed to create an in-crowd and an out-crowd. Those who know you and those who don't. And if you find yourself getting more and more isolated, and the in-crowd is shrinking, it only ends up making you feel alone. The whole red pill problem is a lack of self-esteem coupled with social isolation. And a sense of humor designed to test social ties is partly coming from that lack of self-esteem, and it only ends up reinforcing the social isolation and lack of self-esteem.
It's tough to tell a friend "hey your dry deadpan sense of humor that you pride yourself on is actually pat of what is tormenting you".
I have a longtime friend who is a red pill incel. I'm not entirely sure he knows it, but he subscribes to most of the incel mind game. His humor is often based on a dry deadpan, which people are supposed to realize is sarcastic despite no sarcastic tone. The deadpan humor in this case is partly used as a litmus test. If you don't get his sarcasm despite the lack of tone, it's because you don't know him well enough. So if you fail to get his joke, you're guilty of something far worse than simply not getting the joke or not thinking he's funny. You're guilty of not understanding who he is, and thinking that he might have been serious about his sarcastic comment. This of course is something he internalizes, which makes him feel worse about himself, more misunderstood, more disconnected.
This sense of humor is designed to create an in-crowd and an out-crowd. Those who know you and those who don't. And if you find yourself getting more and more isolated, and the in-crowd is shrinking, it only ends up making you feel alone. The whole red pill problem is a lack of self-esteem coupled with social isolation. And a sense of humor designed to test social ties is partly coming from that lack of self-esteem, and it only ends up reinforcing the social isolation and lack of self-esteem.
It's tough to tell a friend "hey your dry deadpan sense of humor that you pride yourself on is actually pat of what is tormenting you".
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This is from a while back.
I’m glad I stayed the course and didn’t go a-wandering.
My marital separation was down to baby blues which I accepted for about 18 months - 2 years. Then things got back on track.
If I’d strayed I don’t think I would be in the position I am now with a happy home and loving family.
And I’m no longer involuntarily celibate (incel), which is always a plus.
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You never were involuntarily celibate. That's not a thing. Inceldom is a thing only insofar as loud misogynists have propagated a narrative that women as a collective entity (there's no such entity because individuals that may share a handful of identifying characteristics are otherwise so disparate) have high standards to the exclusion of the majority of men and the few men that meet those standards are to be taken advantage of. As @Danoff just indicated, "incel" is among terms that assholes have invented for themselves, or that those lacking the capacity for critical introspection (a foundational characteristic of narcissism), and logical reasoning broadly, have accepted as it's been fed to them.
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@TexRex, acknowledged. However, as somebody who was denied intimacy during a certain period, I did consider myself an incel; Involuntary celibate.
Probably not in the way that it’s considered for 4chan users and other scrubs, but I was there amongst them for a time. But as a literal term it applied to me. I wasn’t getting any, so to speak.
I do understand that “Incels” are a niche collective with derogatory views on women. With those kinda views they ain’t ever gonna get laid lol.
Still, there’s a lot of argument here by members that are childless, and equal harassment could be brought upon them.
Probably not in the way that it’s considered for 4chan users and other scrubs, but I was there amongst them for a time. But as a literal term it applied to me. I wasn’t getting any, so to speak.
I do understand that “Incels” are a niche collective with derogatory views on women. With those kinda views they ain’t ever gonna get laid lol.
Still, there’s a lot of argument here by members that are childless, and equal harassment could be brought upon them.
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Involuntarily celibate is something of an oxymoron. Celibacy is a personal choice to abstain from sex or relationships. It's not called celibacy if you're just not getting any, that's just called being single, alone, or in a sexless relationship. "Single and sad about it" doesn't have the right ring to it for this group though.
Involuntarily celibate is being used to describe a situation where someone would be having sex but is forced not to. Who is forcing them not to? Women who don't want them, and the force is the force of law which protects them from rape. It's basically a complaint that women can't be forced to have sex with them.
"Single and sad about it" is more accurate.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Why do you think childless members should be harassed?
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What you're describing isn't involuntary celibacy. Involuntary celibacy is not a thing. At all. It's an impossibility. Celibacy itself is entirely and exclusively voluntary. It's the choice to abstain from sexual activity out of wedlock. It's a weird purity thing steeped in religious delusion, but individuals have every right to choose it for themselves regardless.
That one does not consent to sexual activity is not to that say you're denied consensual sexual activity. I gather your partner denied you intimacy and it would seem you didn't seek intimacy elsewhere. That's good. It's indicative of a degree of respect for and fidelity to another. It's also a choice that you made voluntarily.
Edit: Partly tree'd.
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Right. So I’ve added a superfluous word there.
Imma just leave this thread be lol.
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