The one car you hate the most (and why)

[vat_man]

Okay, I'm treading on dangerous ground here, but I can always mod this one out of trouble if I need to.

I want to know the one car you most hate. Not a manufacturer, not a type or class of vehicle, but a single specific model - and you have to specify why.

There are to be no reprisals from those who own a vehicle nominated, no-one is to nominate a particular vehicle simply to tick someone else off. Put some thought into it.

I'll go first (most people I chat to here will already know it anyway).

I hate the Honda CR-V.

Why?
- calling 'Real Time 4WD' an AWD system borders on false advertising
- yet another cheap, tall-boy wagon I can't see over in traffic that will never go off the road, and if it did, would become hopelessly bogged within seconds
- the concept of a Honda 4wd wagon is almost an oxymoron
- the bulk of drivers of these vehicles in Sydney seem to be young women who both appear to be unaware that their vehicles came equipped with mirrors, and are apparently unable to point them with any accuracy
- who on earth puts a PICNIC TABLE as a feature of their vehicle?!?
- let's not kid ourselves, it's a Civic wagon on stilts.

 

[Robin2]

i hate the hyundai excel.

the doors are heavy and you cant help but slam them
the engine is underpowered
the exhaust note sounds like a motorised toothbrush
the gearbox is terrible
they have the ugliest front bumper on a car ive ever seen
wheels are too small
they are always driven 10 km/h under the speed limit by teenage girls who couldnt use an indicator to save their life

in conclusion - its a ****box.

 

[1mic]

i hate the aztek/

EVERYTHING about it is ugly
looks ugly
colors ugly
engine is ugly
interior is ugly
even a beautiful looking model driving it is UGLY

pontiac should goto hell for producing such an ugly car, oh well ALL of pontiac's cars are ugly cept the firebird which is now discontinued, so pontiac should just stop producing ugly cars and just stick to being ASS CLOWNS.

 

[LoudMusic]

I'm going to have to go with the Ford Mustang. I guess it's not so much the car, because the car is actually nice in its best form, but more the owners and the following of the Mustang. Those people are NUTZ. Mustang owners being the worst. Somehow they think they're on top of the world in their sporty cars and no one compares to their coolness. I suppose this is why 'fly-boys' (airforce pilots) are so commonly driving them. They tend to have the same attitiude.

Another one is ... are ... any humongous SUV that has never seen less than asphalt. What is the point? It's so you don't have to worry about getting hurt when you screw up while driving - and you know it. Well great, now all of us careful drivers in smaller cars are fearing the day when a big ass SUV driver talking on her cellphone turns a corner not paying attention and plows us over. A) LEARN HOW TO DRIVE B) Get a reasonable car. You have no need for that damn Suburban.

~LoudMusic

 

[-Fred-]

Chevrolet Corvette

-they're a joke on 4 wheels
-they're ridiculously heavy for what they are
-fiberglass bodies are out since the 1970's
-the styling is even more dated than the NSX's
-it's a car to consider when you're in your late 40s, and not before
-tiny penis jokes
-performance factor is dull, considering the average buyer is about to hit retirement, therefore not using it to it's fullest.
-dash looks like it comes right off a Chevy Cavalier, and not from a 50 000$ car
-ergonomics are ****


i could go on and on, but you get the point...

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Originally posted by vat_man
Okay, I'm treading on dangerous ground here, but I can always mod this one out of trouble if I need to.

Originally posted by vat_man
I hate the Honda CR-V.

Why?
- calling 'Real Time 4WD' an AWD system borders on false advertising
- yet another cheap, tall-boy wagon I can't see over in traffic that will never go off the road, and if it did, would become hopelessly bogged within seconds
- the concept of a Honda 4wd wagon is almost an oxymoron
- the bulk of drivers of these vehicles in Sydney seem to be young women who both appear to be unaware that their vehicles came equipped with mirrors, and are apparently unable to point them with any accuracy
- who on earth puts a PICNIC TABLE as a feature of their vehicle?!?
- let's not kid ourselves, it's a Civic wagon on stilts.

You may be interested in this article, which I wrote, and as the site says, was published as a letter in Car magazine.

I'm thinking about the car I hate the most at the moment. So many candidates!

 

[Duke]

Like Giles, I have so many to consider. However, I'm going with my first snap-judgement here:

The Cadillac Avalanche (or whatever the Caddy version of the GM behemoth is called).

The formula: take a poseur "truck" that is titanic in size, gargantuan in weight, insatiable in thirst, soft in suspension, miniscule in utility and capacity, crowded in interior space, ugly in the extreme, and hideously overpriced;

Then: make it heavier, softer, uglier, less useful, and more expensive.

The result? Just what you'd expect. A cross between a Klown Kar and an Armored Personnel Carrier that is designed to separate idiots from their money at the greatest possible rate.

For the love of trees, I hope Lutz can clean some house at GM.

 

[MazKid]

The PT Cruiser:

Ugly
Slow
Image car
cheaply made
heavy
made by Chrysler


Also the Cavalier(sorry Misnblu):
Ugly
Slow
Cheaply made
flimsy
too many kids modding the bottom of the line ones, making them uglyier, cheaper, louder, and then they race and get pissed when they lose(no "if" involved).
Made by GM
junkyier and junkyier as it goes on.

Stuff like that...

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by vat_man

- who on earth puts a PICNIC TABLE as a feature of their vehicle?!?

Nissan's X-Terra here in America has a first-aid kit welded somehow into the rear liftgate, and it creates a huge bulge in the gate ...

Honda Civic. Do I really need to explain?

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by MazKid
The PT Cruiser:

Ugly
Slow
Image car
cheaply made
heavy
made by Chrysler

What!!? The PT Cruiser may be ugly, made by Chrysler (cheaply), and an 'image car,' but it is by no means slow or heavy. If you think it is, drive one, then drive the rest of the cars in the segment!

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by neon_duke
Like Giles, I have so many to consider. However, I'm going with my first snap-judgement here:

The Cadillac Avalanche (or whatever the Caddy version of the GM behemoth is called).

The formula: take a poseur "truck" that is titanic in size, gargantuan in weight, insatiable in thirst, soft in suspension, miniscule in utility and capacity, crowded in interior space, ugly in the extreme, and hideously overpriced;

Then: make it heavier, softer, uglier, less useful, and more expensive.

The result? Just what you'd expect. A cross between a Klown Kar and an Armored Personnel Carrier that is designed to separate idiots from their money at the greatest possible rate.

For the love of trees, I hope Lutz can clean some house at GM.

Ha - this won't be seperating anyone from their money. The only people who buy this vehicle are - as MistaX calls them - 'niggas.' Or, to put it plainly, rap stars.

EDIT: By the way, it's called the Escalade EXT. The Chevy version, the Avalanche, is pretty practical - a friend has one, and it could really go off-road much farther than (most people take it) you'd think.

 

[MazKid]

My uncle has one(well, my aunt, but my uncle bought it for her when she said she wanted one), me and my dad drove it, and it was slow. 5 speed too.

Did I mention that they burn up? That's a recall(which my uncle said "Sweet! I hope it burns!"when I told him)..

 

[1X83Z]

No, it's slow, I don't mean to argue against that. But it's not slow when compared to its competitors (Rio Cinco, Beetle, Esteem Wagon, Echo).

 

[MazKid]

well, yea...

 

[GilesGuthrie]

OK, I've given this some thought now, and I've come up with a little rundown. It's kinda in breach of the rules, but - hey, sue me!

10. Pontiac Sunfire

This was our hire car. No really, this was our hire car. And what a sh**box! None of the panels fitted, it had novelty windows (those ones where you wind the little windey thing, and the windows go up and down), and it took us three days to discover that it didn't have central locking! The wheezy engine screamed and bellowed its way all to the shoddy redline, while making plain for all to see that it couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. The brakes, while good at stopping the car (which does help) were completely devoid of feel, and it was impossible to get the brakes and gearbox to collude in the attempt to produce a smooth stop. Steering? Oh yeah, there was some, but it was rather like driving a boat. Or a duvet. And that's before you take into account the fact that it simply wouldn't go around corners. But hey, it was cheap!

9. Alfa 166
That front! Looks like a Hollywood actress that's had one too many facelifts, with those pinched headlights, and fussy lines around the grille that shouldn't be there. And the scalloped sides! Nice! Haven't seen them since - ooh - the Austin Maestro. Which, judging by the Alfas I've driven, would have had the same build quality.

8= Porsche 911 Convertible, Aston DB7 Volante, Jaguar XK8 Convertible
If I pay more than £50,000 for my rag-top, I don't want to see the top when it's down. Nuff said. Also, all three cars are significantly uglier than their hard-top sisters.

5. BMW 318i
The BMW for people who can only afford Mondeos. An M5 is the Ultimate Driving Machine. Base-model-Beemer isn't. Get over it, we all know that it's poverty-spec! And stop driving like a knob.

4. MCC Smart
BUY A REAL CAR!!!!!

3. VW New Beetle
Oh, that cutesy-cutesy styling! Oh, that cynical manipulation of heritage and 'retro' desire! Oh, those nasty wheeltrims! Oh the muppets who pay £2,000 more than a Golf for a car which is smaller than a Golf and looks stupid! Oh, the idiots who bought left-hookers because they simply had to get one first! Morons!

2. Nissan Micra
Oh, so in need of a restyle, it's not true. I think that instead of the whip aerial favoured in most modern cars, the Micra should be fitted with a 3' metal pole with a springy bit at the top that has a built-in sparkler. Most people drive them like dodgems, so they should bloody well look like one.

In the UK, you get them with Parking Distance Control as standard. This is in case you can't work out that the bumper is 3" from the rear window, and use that to judge your distance, you cretinous moron. Oh, and they also come with 1 year's free insurance, just in case you can't work out what all that bloody irritating beeping's about. Jeez.

And the side rubbing strips have 'jaunty' little 'slashes' through them, where the paintwork is exposed. Except on the 5-door model, this just happens to be where the damn door edges are! How stupid is that???

But the winner of the car that GilesGuthrie hates the most is...

1. The Vauxhall Vectra
I wrote this about it in another post, and I haven't yet come up with a better way to express it, so I've cut-and-pasted...

"I've driven something like 6 Vectras, of varying specification, and I have to say that when they're being good, they're merely competent, but they're not comfortable for long journeys, the gearbox is woeful, the clutch completely devoid of feel, the steering is dead and untrustworthy, the standard stereos struggle to maintain 'poor' status, and the build quality is appaling. The best of the engines is the 1.7TD, and that's REALLY not saying anything, because it's hopelessly underpowered, but the 1.8 and 2.0 are thrashy and weak, and the 2.2, while quite quick, is extremely thirsty.

Haven't driven the new one yet, but I have to say that the styling sucks."

 

[Hooligan]

Just one? Erm, at the moment I'd have to say the BMW 745i. Not so much the car itself (which is heinous), but for what it's sales success implies: more Bangle designs. This will, IMO, put BMW in dire straits soon enough. Ironically, I feel it will be the MINI that will pull them out of the black hole.

Other candidates: PT Cruiser, Vibe/Aztek (oh, heck; anything Pontiac), Matrix (posuer!), anything Korean, anything Saturn, Jaguar X-Type, and all SUV's driven by women. But the 745i is the winner for today....

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by GilesGuthrie

2. Nissan Micra
Oh, so in need of a restyle, it's not true.

Go back into that thread in the test forum and take a look at the re-styled one.

At one point in Hooligan's Bangle-bashing post, he noted...
Bangle designs.

Ha! I think the reason Bangle designs cars so poorly is because he is so ugly.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

This my friend is the Mercedes-Benz MB100 van.

This van has nothing made in Germany, in fact it is made in Korea by Ssangyong motors, a car company that is the second most pathetic car company in Korea (Daewoo is at first place).

This van has a 2.9L diesel, FWD utility van.
It has the size between Chevy Astro and the Ford Econoline 12 pass. van (15 seater model). And similar size as the as the Chevy Astro (9 & 12 pass. model.

And most of all the M-B name pattern is completely wrong!
MB100 is supposed to be MB290 or something.

I hate this car more than any car on the planet, than the Avalanche/Escalade EXT, Pontiac Aztek, the Jeepney in the Philippines.

 

[Hooligan]

Originally posted by M5Power
Ha! I think the reason Bangle designs cars so poorly is because he is so ugly.

I don't know. I never considered Reitzle all that fetching....

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by Hooligan


I don't know. I never considered Reitzle all that fetching....

He's very 'german baronish', Reitzle - you could just imagine him in a WW2 German officer's outfit at a bar in Vienna.

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
But the winner of the car that GilesGuthrie hates the most is...

1. The Vauxhall Vectra
I wrote this about it in another post, and I haven't yet come up with a better way to express it, so I've cut-and-pasted...

Tell me, Giles - did Vauxhall build its own Vectras, or were they sourced from Opel's Belgian plant?

We had a silver 2.0 litre Belgian built Vectra sedan for three years that I was reasonably happy with - we never had any significant problems with it, although I got the impression in the last year we had it that it wasn't car you would wanted to have owned much past the end of its warranty

Quality was okay (not a patch on the Subaru though) and the 2.0 litre actually went pretty well - but a peek under the bonnet revealed Holden put a pretty aggressive exhaust on it that if it had been after-market might have been called extractors.

Holden did also firm up the suspension pretty significantly (we had a friend over from England who could not believe the difference in suspension between the Australian spec Vectras and the UK spec) although it did have a prodigious appetite for front tyres. It was a quite fine handling little front driver (although, again, not a patch on the Subaru, but that's properly sorted AWD for you).

 

[Endocytosis]

The car I hate the most is the Skyline

Any shape or form of this car stinks. It looks like nothing more than a special sedan to me (and an ugly one at that).

I also am not fond of the NSX. For the amount of money you spend on it you could get something that would drive circles all around this car. Not even three hundred horse, whats up with that?

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Endocytosis
The car I hate the most is the Skyline

Any shape or form of this car stinks. It looks like nothing more than a special sedan to me (and an ugly one at that).

I also am not fond of the NSX. For the amount of money you spend on it you could get something that would drive circles all around this car. Not even three hundred horse, whats up with that?

Hey Rumple - how are you?

 

[Endocytosis]

Originally posted by M5Power

Hey Rumple - how are you?

M5, I know you think Im Rumple...Im not. My name is Nenad. He lives with me.
I dont have any idea where he is right now or what he is doing. I dont rive fancy cars or have rich parents. i drive a little red Neon and I just recently started to come back here.

 

[Endocytosis]

BTW, here is myself with my Neon

 

[DessViperV-10]

Hona Civic

Excluding the CR-X

1.ugly
2.slow
3.riceboy's love
4.wussy girl engine
5.crappy interior


Honda NSX

1.not ugly,but too original
2.slow
3.again,wussy girl V6
4.sounds like shiiiiiit
5.interior is too plain

 

[Race Idiot]

Ahhh hated cars yes here we go

Vauxhall Nova/Astra

Now ive wondered for a while why americans bash the Civic so much, until I heard the term "ricer" the Vauxhall nova is the UK equivalent (not the same car but has the same stupid things done to it) of the honda civic but worse. Its a tiny boxy piece of crap that 18 year olds buy (they will buy say a 1.2 litre engine version not the sports model) with about 6 million miles on it, put a stupid looking body kit on it, put stupid huge 16" wheels on it, and either change the exaust or put a hole in the current one to give it that "authentic" sound. Here is an example of it , however there are some awfull examples of this around where I live. So its the car and the driver that I hate I suppose. I mean I drive a bloody 1100cc engine car (ford fiesta) but I dont feel the need to put loads of crap on it like some people.

 

[psonefreak]

i'll have to think about this and get back to this...

 

[LoudMusic]

The McLaren F1 ... in black.

"WHY!?!", you ask, "Why would you hate such an amazing car!?!"

Because I'll never own one. That's why.

~LoudMusic

 

[masonholmes]

you took the thoughts straight out of my head Loud.