The order of modification

[Pfrankie]

Folks,
I did the search and found a dead thread so here goes again.... It is said that the order in which you do your mods doesn't matter.... I disagree. (Screwed up and pressed the wrong key...)
As I was saying..... I find if I do the chip last, it builds upon the other mods.... for example if your car comes stocck with 100HP and you add a chip, you gain 10HP. If you do mods to up your 100hp to say 120hp, then add a chip, it adds 12hp..... thus the order you add mods does make a difference......

Am I wrong?

 

[Scaff]

Folks,
I did the search and found a dead thread so here goes again.... It is said that the order in which you do your mods doesn't matter.... I disagree.

And!

Sorry, but your post is a little pointless without something to back it up.

You disagree that the order of modification doesn't matter; so prove the people who put the other thread together wrong (a thread that you could have used to discuss this - its considered OK here).

Give us some examples of how the order that modifications are done makes a difference to the final result. From my own exerience (although I have never tested it) I have not seen a difference, so would be interested if you could show that it makes a difference.

Regards

Scaff


edited to say, whooa, not often you get crossing threads and editing like that.. You were editing your post as I was writing this one. Could you expand on your example with a car model, etc. Also which screen are you using to view the BHP figure?

 

[-Cheezman-]

It doesn't matter at all. Aslong as you don't choose say a stage 4 turbo than buy and install a stage2. I suggest you go back to playing GT4 and open your eyes.

 

[Ezz777]

comes stocck with 100HP and you add a chip, you gain 10HP. If you do mods to up your 100hp to say 120hp, then add a chip, it adds 12hp..... thus the order you add mods does make a difference......

Am I wrong?

Yes, you are wrong.

If you add that chip that gives you 10hp, then do the upgrade that gets you to 132 (total of the two upgrades) then take off the chip - you will lose the 12hp, and be back to 120hp. Ie makes no difference.

 

[Pfrankie]

Way too much hostility.... and by the way... you cannot do anything with a CLOSED thread.

 

[Ezz777]

Way too much hostility.... and by the way... you cannot do anything with a CLOSED thread.

Dude, that wasn't hostility - you will find much more if you look for it...

I understand your point with regards to being able to discuss a dead thread. The problem as we see it is that you are beating a dead horse with this one. Either show some evidence to suggest that the conclusions we have drawn are incorrect (hopefully by doing some conclusive testing yourself) or be prepared to cop this sort of "hostility".

 

[Uncle Harry]

No, you have it wrong. Upgrades are based on a percentage value not on the order they are made.
Your example was 10% for the chip.
10 percent of 100 is an increase of 10 with stock.
10 percent of 120 is an increase of 12 with NA upgrade.
Remove the NA upgrade and your power will be back to 120 and not 122.
Works the same for all power upgrades.
If you added a stage 2 turbo for total 150 and then added the chip you would go up to 165 which is 10% increase.

 

[Ezz777]

Just to show that the "hostility" isn't reserved for new members, some people object to others repeating the same post with different wording, especially when it seems that they haven't read everyone else's inputs...

 

[Uncle Harry]

Just to show that the "hostility" isn't reserved for new members, some people object to others repeating the same post with different wording, especially when it seems that they haven't read everyone else's inputs...

Obviously this is aimed at me as I was the one expanding on Ezz777 original post..

You never mentioned "percentage increase"
I was going more in depth to expand on the subject to try to help Pfrankie understand how the system works.
Rather presumptuous to say others have not read the entire thread when it only contained 5 replies at the time.
Since when can a answer not be expanded on even if it recounts some information all ready posted..

 

[Ezz777]

fair play on the expansion of a similar theme. i guess i always make assumptions as to how cluey people are who are reading the post. well if Pfrankie didn't understand after my post, i sure hope he understands now.

To be honest, i wasn't that bothered by your post - more using it as an illustrator of the whole "hostility" side of things. Hence the non-specific nature. Just bugs me the echoes in this place sometimes.

[whispers] and your post was better worded than mine anyway.

 

[KaiZen]

I think some people around here are just a little to sensitive.. I was flamed the other day for, somewhat, restating another persons statements.. whom shall remain nameless *cough DR cough*

Just 'cause I lacked a little finesse, as nameless did, in my reply and the fact that I have less authority on the boards, it doesn't mean that you can say that I was talkin' s*** about your abilities

 

[F1Lover666]

And!

Sorry, but your post is a little pointless without something to back it up.

You disagree that the order of modification doesn't matter; so prove the people who put the other thread together wrong (a thread that you could have used to discuss this - its considered OK here).

Give us some examples of how the order that modifications are done makes a difference to the final result. From my own exerience (although I have never tested it) I have not seen a difference, so would be interested if you could show that it makes a difference.

Regards

Scaff


Ummmm, Scaff
Remember that one time when you were a total dork that does nothing but play games and make fun of people that are not as good as you?

Oh wait, that's every single day of your life!

Bad news....Being a GT4 hero is kind of lame, so maybe get a girlfriend or something..

 

[Ezz777]

i guess expanding, restating, rephrasing, etc. aren't that different to REpeating a post. I guess the main reason people get annoyed, is because they(we) have a clear idea in their mind, then write somehting that to others doesn't really explain it all that clearly (but in our head its exactly right) so they feel the need to clarify. I guess its a fine line.

 

[squeek]

back.......on........topic.......anybody????? lol

as previously stated, the only way this can be proven is with screenies before and after modification with say na tuning and turbo with a chip before and after. FULL STOP.

 

[Scaff]

And!

Sorry, but your post is a little pointless without something to back it up.

You disagree that the order of modification doesn't matter; so prove the people who put the other thread together wrong (a thread that you could have used to discuss this - its considered OK here).

Give us some examples of how the order that modifications are done makes a difference to the final result. From my own exerience (although I have never tested it) I have not seen a difference, so would be interested if you could show that it makes a difference.

Regards

Scaff


Ummmm, Scaff
Remember that one time when you were a total dork that does nothing but play games and make fun of people that are not as good as you?

Oh wait, that's every single day of your life!

Bad news....Being a GT4 hero is kind of lame, so maybe get a girlfriend or something..

I don't think that the simply rude and borderline abusive nature of your post is really required.

I mearly asked that the member who created the thread illustrate his point with some examples, as other threads have existed in the past which have covered this before and found the opposite. I also mentioned that Pfrankie could have used one of these threads as it is considered OK here at GTPlanet (and a lot of other forums frown on using old threads).

I did not flame the member who started the thread, in fact I edited my comments after they added some of the info I asked about (and I notice that my additional comments added by this edit were omitted from your quote).

You're post added nothing to this subject in any way.

Regards

Scaff

BTW I'm 34 years old and married with 3 kids, not much need for a girlfriend. Nor do I sit at home all day playing video games, my sig actually carried a message to say that I was working away when you posted your comments.

Looking back over your posts since you joined GTPlanet a number of them appear to be direct attempts to score points over other members and a number of personal attacks on people, the sort of behaviour that will attract the attention of the mods here (as Famine has already pointed out to you).