The Oscars controversy surrounding the lack of diversity

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I'm just really happy for Dicaprio. The poor A-lister, with millions to his name and a long list of young model conquests along with regular yacht stints, finally caught a break in life.

(Saw this basic insight, in AUP-unfriendly form, on Twitter.)
 
I'm just really happy for Dicaprio. The poor A-lister, with millions to his name and a long list of young model conquests along with regular yacht stints, finally caught a break in life.

(Saw this basic insight, in AUP-unfriendly form, on Twitter.)

Add Laura Whitmore to the list, my heart bleeds...
 
I'm just really happy for Dicaprio. The poor A-lister, with millions to his name and a long list of young model conquests along with regular yacht stints, finally caught a break in life.

(Saw this basic insight, in AUP-unfriendly form, on Twitter.)
Glad to see another lecture from Leo on global warming. He does his part by renting instead of buying 450 foot yachts.
 
Pixar's Inside Out featured a yellow female, a blue female, a green female, a purple male, and a red male. The main actress also had help from a pink guy (who may or may not have existed)...and took home an Oscar.

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Don't believe the hype, sheeple!
 
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And obviously any opportunity to bash the catholic church (and I am not a catholic) is worthy of an oscar.
It's a topical issue. Look at the way Pope Francis has faced criticism for not having any real stance on the Church's handling of abuse. Or the way Cardinal George Pell has been compelled to testify in the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Allegations of Child Sexual Abuse - an investigation that has been going on for the past five years.
 
It's a topical issue. Look at the way Pope Francis has faced criticism for not having any real stance on the Church's handling of abuse. Or the way Cardinal George Pell has been compelled to testify in the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Allegations of Child Sexual Abuse - an investigation that has been going on for the past five years.
I get that the Catholic Church abuse scandal is a very hot topic issue. I just think that, by your own admission, that a movie about an ongoing investigation is something that is worthy of an award just on sheer principle.
 
I just think that, by your own admission, that a movie about an ongoing investigation is something that is worthy of an award just on sheer principle.
Spotlight is about the investigations into the abuse scandal in the Boston area. The Royal Commission is our investigation into decades of systematic abuse in the church, private schools, organisations like the boy scouts and protective services. It's so vast that it has no fixed end date, and it pretty much has the power to compel anyone to testify.
 
It was a pity to see Steven Spielberg chose Daniel Day-Lewis for the lead role in his forthcoming film, 'Obama'. Day-Lewis is a great actor, but surely he could have picked a non-white actor...



DDL sort of looks like Obama though. It's not hard to imagine. Films about Presidents should be boycotted anyway.
 
One issue of sex abuse, its quite amazing how the public is clueless about what's going on in public schools:

http://sigtruth.com/sexual-abuse-of-public-school-children-100-times-more-than-priests/

Right back atcha... you've completely misread their source, I think. Or you haven't read it at all. The extrapolation is that 9% of public school attendees were likely to be a target of educator sexual misconduct (a far wider term than intervential abuse) during their entire school life (5y to 18y). That compares with 4% of the Catholic priesthood in the US having been active sexual abusers. If you're going to fearmonger then learn how to numbers :)

My thing is, if hollywood is really racist then explain to me why do guys like Will Smith or Denzel Washington command huge salaries?

Because he takes film profit deals rather than strict salaries?
 
It turns out that not only can white actors being cast in lead roles be Hollywood racism, so can casting black ones if they aren't the right kind of black...

I don't get this one either, it does beg the question of how far one is "allowed" to darken one's skin for a role. Admittedly this actor's heritage looks to have zero in common with Nina Simone's but that doesn't seem to be the reason for the complaints.
 
The Zoe Saldana issue is funny... but it appears more that some people want an actress who looked more like Nina than Zoe does.

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It's not quite as ridiculous as the backlash against Zhang Ziyi in Memoirs of a Geisha. I'm told by Chinese friends that you can easily tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese... though my personal batting record is just over 50%.
 
I don't get this one either, it does beg the question of how far one is "allowed" to darken one's skin for a role. Admittedly this actor's heritage looks to have zero in common with Nina Simone's but that doesn't seem to be the reason for the complaints.
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I'm guessing Gene Wilder took it a little too far?

It's definitely weird when you look back on SNL in the late 70's, movies like Blazing Saddles etc, the movies and shows that would never pass in today's environment. I'm not saying it should either.
 
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if hollywood is really racist then explain to me why do guys like Will Smith or Denzel Washington command huge salaries?
So because two African-American actors "command huge salaries", there is no problem?

Tell me, how many other African-American actors earn similar amounts of money? And how many Caucasian actors earn the same amount or more?
 
So because two African-American actors "command huge salaries", there is no problem?

Tell me, how many other African-American actors earn similar amounts of money? And how many Caucasian actors earn the same amount or more?
What do the percentages have to be in order for it to not be racist?
 
It's not the money @Johnnypenso it has to be when the standard is lowered enough that any fool can be an actor.

btw, Denzel is really good at what he does, he's not some super great thing, but he is super great at what he does. I loved that bit when he played a drunk pilot.

awesome 👍
 
I think actors leverage their pay as to how much their name is worth on a movie poster, trailer, or advertisement. They have to do their own promotional work, keep tabs with folks they'd probably feel most uncomfortable with, compete with others that they socialize with; they have to be their own miniature corporation, if you will.

Like many (if not all) industries, the top-billing employees get wealthy, many are paid a basic living commensurate with their star power and talent, and there's hundreds, if not thousands, trying to break into the same career who make next to nothing just to get a foot in the door...because hopefully they love what they do. I think the Screen Actors Guild guarantees minimums, but typically, I think that's for writers and other backstage industry folks.

Whether you're talking airline pilots, software engineers, basketball players, or artists, there's a lot of people who have to start out "paying to play" and others who make a lot less than imagined; the stars of the particular industry distort public perception.
 
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