The Oval Tunery

Love the Daytona set up! I mostly race "dirty nascar" races, which are shorter (11 laps or less normally) and generally do not have tire wear.

Any recommendations of slight "tweaks" to your current Daytona tune, which may benefit dirty nascar racing?


Thanks!
 
Yes I do

RH +14/+15
SR 19.4/19.8
Ext. 7/8 or 8/9
Comp. 6/7 or 7/8
ARB 1/2 or 2/3
Camber 4.2/4.0
Toe -0.12/-0.05.......could add more negative to make looser
LSD - 35/40/5.....hi =understeer n low=oversteer
Aero 20/40-45
 
kenkwilinski
Yes I do

RH +14/+15
SR 19.4/19.8
Ext. 7/8 or 8/9
Comp. 6/7 or 7/8
ARB 1/2 or 2/3
Camber 4.2/4.0
Toe -0.12/-0.05.......could add more negative to make looser
LSD - 35/40/5.....hi =understeer n low=oversteer
Aero 20/40-45
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Just a quick question:
On every NASCAR tune I've seen, the ride height is way up. Why is this?
 
They turn better with higher ride height in general. But at daytona the hi banking requires an extremely high ride height due to bottoming out.
 
Master_gamer438
Also gives you a higher topspeed
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Very true, less drag and more lift (aerodynamics like a jet taking off) gives higher top end rather than hi downforce which gives more drag, less lift n in return gives more grip but reduced top speed. Aerodynamics aren't just considered in setting the downforce, aerodynamics involve shape n angles, like ride height from front n rear. Front end low will give better turning grip at a slightly lower but more consistant speed. Where as a higher front end will distribute weight better through a turn (not entering) with slightly more throttle control with a little less grip. Low ride heights n hi downforce is better for a low speed track and hi ride heights n low downforce is better for a high speed track. But that's not always true either because if a track has a few elevation changes a higher ride height may be prefered to avoid bottoming out once again. So they both have their advantages n disadvantages. Choose wisely :lol:
 
what would you suggest to get more wear out of tyres for Indy? I am getting 6 good laps and thats it? In a 15 lap race...its terrible. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks!
 
Try my first indy tune I posted, its the one that has zero front toe angle. Or try raising the ride height to +15F/+10R. Let me know how this works out please.

EDIT: And for Ovals online I have been using racing hard tires with no alterations to my tuning. The difference is at least twice as many laps on one set of racing hard tires compared to racing soft tires.
 
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Do you have one for the toyota gt-one TS020. I have one tuned for daytona that does 35.949 and was wondering how yours compared

Also I have a veyron that has done a 35.612 at daytona as well. Both were solo laps

Just wanting faster for both
 
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banginspl
Do you have one for the toyota gt-one TS020. I have one tuned for daytona that does 35.949 and was wondering how yours compared

Also I have a veyron that has done a 35.612 at daytona as well. Both were solo laps

Just wanting faster for both
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Those are fast laps!! Do you have downforce? How is your transmission setup? I need to know how you are running your setup to help. I always aim for a high ride height (not always max) , max spring rates and dampers, and low values on anti-roll bars. Try adding lots of camber and very little negative or positive toe angles. But try to use no toe angle. Hit me back.
 
Toyota Gt-One
929hp
All performance parts
soft racing tires
drop the downforce all the way down, now it makes it kinda loose so its your choice on that or not. Ive raced with this car so much Im used to it on my ds3. I've gotten 35.949s with this exact setup online in my lounge, so I dont know how well it will work for everyone else but it works for me :)

Reset your transmission then move the final gear to 5.500 and then set your top speed below the final gear to 249mph.

1st-1.863
2nd-1.228
3rd-0.883
4th-0.668
5th-0.533
6th-0.436

now take your final gear from the 5.500 down to 5.408 and should show your top speed up on the chart at 280mph.

on the torque
60
60
5

Here is the suspension, not much is done to it. thats where I need help to see if it will make it anybetter

-13/-16
14.8/14.8
8/8
8/8
6/6

camber 1.0 / 0.5
 
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I need to check that out tonite. But by looking at it, it looks like it needs a higher ride height and lower anti roll bars, the excessive roll bars are making it loose, try 1's instead of 6's. Then try with no aero. Ill give it a go tonite n ill let u know my take on it.
 
I tried your suspension and I didn't like it, I instead went with lowest aero settings, max ride height, max springs and dampers, lowest anti roll bars, camber at 4.0 and no toe angle. I was only 0.4sec off your time but the handling felt great. But I did not set the transmission up with your gearing. I will give the gear ratios a try later today to see if its an improvement. But try my tweaks and your car should feel great to drive.
 
I'm working on a tune for the GT One as well and I didn't like the tune post above either. I tune my cars for endurance rather than simply top speed. I want to be able to get the maximum amount of laps out of a set of tires without sacrificing too much top speed.
 
Eric W
I'm working on a tune for the GT One as well and I didn't like the tune post above either. I tune my cars for endurance rather than simply top speed. I want to be able to get the maximum amount of laps out of a set of tires without sacrificing too much top speed.
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I agree Eric, a few tenths faster at Daytona isn't the best approach. I ultimately want my cars fast, but more importantly to handle great lap after lap. I feel that a tighter and stiffer car works the best for Daytona in the long run when comparing tires versus a soft and loose setup. Yes softer gives more grip and looser is faster but at Daytona the draft gives a slower car an advantage.

So as long as your tune handles well, dishes out tire wear well and still produces next to stellar lap times I think this is the optimul tuning for this track along with other tracks. My approach is always to stiffen the suspension as much as possible and soften the anti roll bars as much as possible. I necessarily don't always raise the ride height all the way up as this sometimes gives particular cars unwanted handling characteristics. So as it may appear all my tunes are generally the same but they really aren't. The only thing that is the same in this thread is my motto "stiffer is better".

Good example is I ran a 30 lap race at Cape Ring with a few minor tweaks to my nascar tune (similar to the dirty nascar tune I threw out there for someone a few weeks back here in this thread) and added full aero. Now this car handled great, had the best tires in the field and I won with a big lead. And I wasn't racing with any newbs either. So that kinda concluded that "stiffer is better" works for me in this type of racing. Notice I don't post too many road course tunes.
 
Im having a hard time getting my cien, speed 12, and gt tuned. Im stuck using a enzo, I need some diversity. I usually run daytona oval clean. Can some1 please help
 
Any updates? I would love that Enzo tune for Daytona. Also, any Zonda R updates to not make it spin out when drafting and racing with other people online, entering the corners?
 
LanEvoVIII
Any updates? I would love that Enzo tune for Daytona. Also, any Zonda R updates to not make it spin out when drafting and racing with other people online, entering the corners?
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The Zonda was a handful as I recall when I tuned it. One thing I know that will keep it glued to the track is adding downforce but this will lower top speed :(

crash9201
Im having a hard time getting my cien, speed 12, and gt tuned. Im stuck using a enzo, I need some diversity. I usually run daytona oval clean. Can some1 please help
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I have not messed with any cars in awhile. I have been dialing my NASCAR for the GTP SprintCup Series nowadays.

ElusiveYeti
Can we have a setup for Challenger srt8 tc please. I am trying to get 25 - 30 on hard tires.
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I actually think I have this car dialed in. Let me look tonite and let you know. Even if I don't I presume it won't be a hard task to accomplish. I think you will need to lower your LSD, lower Final Gear, taller trans, and some kind of stiff suspension, high ride height and springs would work best. Have you checked out to see if anyone else on GTPlanet has this car tuned?


And thanks guys for following this thread, it's been awhile since an update or a post from me. I am sorry about this but I am on a limited schedule nowadays and really only have time for 1 racing series I am in. But don't hesitate to post here or send me a PM!
 
What's your take on using chassis reinforcement for oval tracks? I've been using this for some of my cars recently but I haven't noticed any positive changes. It has caused me to lose the ability to powerslide the turns at indy and I can no longer ride the high line close to the wall at daytona. This is due to too much understeer and it's made my tempest and my superbird useless.
 
ElusiveYeti
What's your take on using chassis reinforcement for oval tracks? I've been using this for some of my cars recently but I haven't noticed any positive changes. It has caused me to lose the ability to powerslide the turns at indy and I can no longer ride the high line close to the wall at daytona. This is due to too much understeer and it's made my tempest and my superbird useless.
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From my understanding, the chassis reinforcement stiffens the rigidity of the chassis, somewhat similar to using soft (or stiff) anti-roll bars. Which may be ideal to save tires but no great because it induces understeer. I haven't quite determined if I prefer one over the other. I have done some testing but have nothing conclusive. However, I speculate you may need to re-tune suspension settings when adding reinforcement.
 
I was curious why most of your setups have very low roll bar settings? I noticed that with very high roll bar settings you go faster through the turns.
 

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