The Patriot Act

[Kent]

Indeed, thats where the joke on my "security patch updates" comes from.

lol indeed, lol

 

[Danoff]

Everyone likes to say there's no slippery slope - that allowing the government to remove personal freedoms to look for terrorists is not going to result in removing personal freedoms to look for other things. Well:

http://www.informationweek.com/government/policy/google-says-government-surveillance-grow/240124953

This may not come as a shock at a time when an FBI investigation into confrontational email messages between two women uncovered a tangentially related extramarital affair, forcing the resignation of the nation's director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Why on earth should government surveillance in the wake of a sex scandal not come as a shock? Have we really seceded that much freedom culturally since 2003 when this thread was created? Amazing.


...and by the way this is with a Democrat in office, after 4 years of a Democrat in the White house. You know, the party that's supposed to care about civil rights.

 

[arora]

Sex sells.

Here is an interesting read about the scandal.

http://jonathanturley.org/2012/03/18/how-patriotic-is-the-patriot-act/

If the government is allowed to spy on Americans who are not subjects of criminal or terror investigations, have the Fourth and Fifth Amendments been essentially neutered? Is there any hope of the Patriot Act being brought under control, especially when so much of its use is hidden under the National Security label? What do you think should be done?

Repeal.

 

[Sam48]

Repeal.

Even if it was repealed, would that really stop them? After all, they are the highest authority in that department.

 

[arora]

It's a start, as it is we are living in the years of Nixon with approval.

 

[sumbrownkid]

All of this government surveillance isn't anything new, as it has been going on since the Cold War. The only difference is that the form of surveillance and the reasons for them has changed.

Even if the Patriot Act were repealed, it won't stop the shady sect of the government stop from going on about shady things.

 

[arora]

Yeah, lets just not worry about it 👍

 

[sumbrownkid]

Yeah, lets just not worry about it 👍

Always a solution I guess...