The Playstation Phone Thread - XPERIA Play

[Robin]

So the last thread started about the PSP's successor in the end turned out to be the PSP Go and although Playstation Phone rumours have been hovering around for years more recent news has surfaced to suggest its coming very soon.

What is now likely expected is some hybrid PSP Go / Mylo that can make phone calls. The Go was quite poorly received and I suspect it will be phased out really soon for this new offering which makes more sense.

Apparently this phone already physically exists, here is a summary of what Engadget (who have inside info) have said so far,

- Described as looking like a cross between a Samsung Captivate and a PSP Go.

- The device will carry both Playstation and XPERIA branding.

- Will run the upcoming Andriod 3.0 'Gingerbread' OS.

- 1 GHz Snapdragon Processor likely.

- 5 Mega Pixel Camera.

- Screen size will be somewhere between 3.7 and 4.1 inches with WVGA resolution.

- Have the ability to play PSP and PSX games (PSN Store).

Robin.

Here is Engadgets super lazy mock up

...and the full article,

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/

 

[Terronium-12]

Further proof that consoles and their handheld counterparts are about everything else but games. 👎

Only company that still has sense in all of this is, apparently, Nintendo. Microsoft doesn't really count as they don't have a handheld counterpart, and likely never will as they know they're not taking any type of market share from the Gameboy (DS/3DS).

 

[Golfman]

I agree with Terronium-12. Sony need to stop trying to cross-breed their games consoles with all this multimedia. A phone is a phone. A games console is a GAMES console. Too many iterations of the PSP have come out so far and I bet the next one they still wont get right. I haven't played my PSP for ages now (the only thing that gave it life recently was downloading FF7 from the PSN), and I am having more fun with my girlfriend's DS.

 

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A: It needs another thumb stick/directional pad if they hope to release FPS.

B: i *really* want it to have a umd drive.

 

[NotThePrez]

For me, this goes in the same place as the iPad: A very, very cool concept, but not much past that. As T-12 said, it's for games.

 

[Robin]

The problem is that because gaming has now been adopted by the masses it has also become more casual which is why every damn device does gaming to some degree and its usually a sloppy and half baked experience to us 'hardcore gamers' like the slew of 3rd party Wii titles. But thats what the majority of the public want, to play mini games which are accessible to all levels and ages.

I agree that Sony need to stop messing around and release a proper 'hardcore' PSP2, I want motion sensors, a 3D multi-touch display, dual analog sticks and Blu Ray UMD's (totally possible). This phone is likely to be a PSP Go with an aerial which is a start but its a step in the other direction!

I'm still eager to see how it turns out and how it does against the iPhone 4 and iPad from a gaming perspective. Oh and heres another slightly less lazy mock up from another site,

Robin.

 

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shouldn't the slide out be squared off like the phone?

 

[Christian_C]

shouldn't the slide out be squared off like the phone?

Have you actually read any of the thread or just looked at the pictures?

 

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Have you actually read any of the thread or just looked at the pictures?

it's a cell phone mated to a psp go? Did i miss something? Or im missing something by suggesting that it might be comfortable with the slide out controls in the same shape as the phone?

 

[ObtuseChicken]

I agree with Terronium-12. Sony need to stop trying to cross-breed their games consoles with all this multimedia. A phone is a phone. A games console is a GAMES console. Too many iterations of the PSP have come out so far and I bet the next one they still wont get right. I haven't played my PSP for ages now (the only thing that gave it life recently was downloading FF7 from the PSN), and I am having more fun with my girlfriend's DS.

I totally agree. Makes you wonder why the iPhone is so popular; surely you can have an iPod touch (or just don't have one at all) and a phone in your pocket than have something that doesn't know what itself is. Is it a phone? Yes, but not specifically. Is it a games console? Yes, but not specifically, and so on. I'm not going to dish out £400 for using it as a phone.

 

[LaBounti]

The problem is that because gaming has now been adopted by the masses it has also become more casual which is why every damn device does gaming to some degree and its usually a sloppy and half baked experience to us 'hardcore gamers' like the slew of 3rd party Wii titles. But thats what the majority of the public want, to play mini games which are accessible to all levels and ages.

I agree that Sony need to stop messing around and release a proper 'hardcore' PSP2, I want motion sensors, a 3D multi-touch display, dual analog sticks and Blu Ray UMD's (totally possible). This phone is likely to be a PSP Go with an aerial which is a start but its a step in the other direction!

I'm still eager to see how it turns out and how it does against the iPhone 4 and iPad from a gaming perspective. Oh and heres another slightly less lazy mock up from another site,


Robin.

A grown up opinion finally. I agree to some degree. Android is becoming popular in fact overtaking Iphone thanks to its many phones and carriers. I do think a PSP2 is due. The simple nature of PSP's architecture plus android 3.0 would be a perfect mix. What some of the shallow minded posters above are missing is this is a "smart phone" that will cost $500+ without a contract. Sony is not new to making phones. Its not just a PlayStation that makes phone calls based on the rumor. It could even be a test market for the PSP's successor. A PlayStation branded Android smart phone is the rumor, not PSPGo Phone.

This coming from a person who owns and uses both PSP and an Android 2.1 smart phone. If I could have both in one device that would be ok but I'd prefer the bigger screen of the PSP. Playing Burnout Dominator again it reminds me why its a good handheld.

I'm not going to dish out £400 for using it as a phone

Many do not understand what a smart phone is or why people buy them. I could never go back to a regular phone, I am spoiled by the features and abilities and I take advantage of my unlimited data plan.

 

[ObtuseChicken]

A grown up opinion finally. I agree to some degree. Android is becoming popular in fact overtaking Iphone thanks to its many phones and carriers. I do think a PSP2 is due. The simple nature of PSP's architecture plus android 3.0 would be a perfect mix. What some of the shallow minded posters above are missing is this is a "smart phone" that will cost $500+ without a contract. Sony is not new to making phones. Its not just a PlayStation that makes phone calls based on the rumor. It could even be a test market for the PSP's successor. A PlayStation branded Android smart phone is the rumor, not PSPGo Phone.

This coming from a person who owns and uses both PSP and an Android 2.1 smart phone. If I could have both in one device that would be ok but I'd prefer the bigger screen of the PSP. Playing Burnout Dominator again it reminds me why its a good handheld.

Many do not understand what a smart phone is or why people buy them. I could never go back to a regular phone, I am spoiled by the features and abilities and I take advantage of my unlimited data plan.

I perfectly understand what it is. I own an iPad, but would never buy an iPhone. Why? Because I can get a decent phone for less than £80 and if you want all the cool stuff an iPhone has minus the phone and camera, get an iPod touch.

 

[Terronium-12]

A grown up opinion finally. I agree to some degree. Android is becoming popular in fact overtaking Iphone thanks to its many phones and carriers. I do think a PSP2 is due. The simple nature of PSP's architecture plus android 3.0 would be a perfect mix. What some of the shallow minded posters above are missing is this is a "smart phone" that will cost $500+ without a contract. Sony is not new to making phones. Its not just a PlayStation that makes phone calls based on the rumor. It could even be a test market for the PSP's successor. A PlayStation branded Android smart phone is the rumor, not PSPGo Phone.

This coming from a person who owns and uses both PSP and an Android 2.1 smart phone. If I could have both in one device that would be ok but I'd prefer the bigger screen of the PSP. Playing Burnout Dominator again it reminds me why its a good handheld.

Many do not understand what a smart phone is or why people buy them. I could never go back to a regular phone, I am spoiled by the features and abilities and I take advantage of my unlimited data plan.

So, not only did you just call most (if not all) of us who don't like the idea "shallow-minded" you also implied our opinions were also from a child-like point of view? Way to go.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

I totally agree. Makes you wonder why the iPhone is so popular; surely you can have an iPod touch (or just don't have one at all) and a phone in your pocket than have something that doesn't know what itself is.

This doesn't make sense to me. They add phone functionality to the Touch and all of a sudden it becomes some sort of device made by the devil. Some of the "Touch features" become enhanced since you can connect to the internet almost anywhere. Should they sell the Touch and then a phone that looks like the Touch, but only offers phone functionality? Maybe they should make one device for playing videos, another for music, another for web browsing and so on.

 

[LaBounti]

So, not only did you just call most (if not all) of us who don't like the idea "shallow-minded" you also implied our opinions were also from a child-like point of view? Way to go.

No just for those instantly assuming its the next coming of PlayStation when its not based on the rumor. The remarks could have been saved had some actually read the article.

ObtuseChicken

The Ipad is not a smart phone. If you add 3g to the Ipad it turns it into a large iphone minus the phone. The internet anywhere is the biggest draw to the concept of a 3g/4g smart phones. I have a mobile web and the many apps that use the internet. I can use my Android Phone as a 3g modem with my Laptop, the single most awesome feature of my android phone. But as ROAD_DOGG33J sarcastically said the more it can do the better. I'm not always home and its incredibly handy while I'm at work.

 

[Tornado]

I pretty much agree with LaBounti on this. For crying out loud, people, it is just a smart phone with some of the PSP design features integrated to better allow gaming compared to other smart phones. You don't want it, don't buy it.
This isn't another iteration of the current PSP. It also is not the PSP2, which has been confirmed to be using a completely different processor from the one above and also confirmed to not be a phone.

Further proof that consoles and their handheld counterparts are about everything else but games. 👎

Only company that still has sense in all of this is, apparently, Nintendo. Microsoft doesn't really count as they don't have a handheld counterpart, and likely never will as they know they're not taking any type of market share from the Gameboy (DS/3DS).

I agree with Terronium-12. Sony need to stop trying to cross-breed their games consoles with all this multimedia.

Yes. Sony sucks for making their devices do more than just be a game console. They should all be like Nintendo, who went out of their way to prevent the Wii from even playing DVD movies and the DSi from playing mp3s when both had the hardware to do so

 

[Golfman]

Yes. Sony sucks for making their devices do more than just be a game console. They should all be like Nintendo, who went out of their way to prevent the Wii from even playing DVD movies and the DSi from playing mp3s when both had the hardware to do so

And I applaud them for it. The only company out of the big 3 who make their hardware do what it's supposed to do and no more. A games console, designed primarily for gameplaying and nothing else. Is it any wonder that some 360s and PS3s have broken down because the poor hardware is working overtime trying to do things that it doesn't need to do?

Granted, I wouldn't even consider swapping my PS3 for a Wii because I'm used to the better gaming i get from Sony's console. But the Wii is a small, compact unit that does exactly what it says on the box and no more. Admittedly, Nintendo should have given it a better processor and graphics chip to compete with the 360 and PS3.
But can you imagine how small, compact, and less chance of a breakdown both the 360 and PS3 would have been if Sony and Microsoft had simply made powerful games consoles and not packed as much multi-media stuff into the hardware?
Look at the PS3 slim - it's smaller and lighter with none of the unnecessary ports and card slots that my 60GB 'fat' has.
It's the console Sony should have made in the first place.

 

[Tornado]

And I applaud them for it. The only company out of the big 3 who make their hardware do what it's supposed to do and no more. A games console, designed primarily for gameplaying and nothing else.

But that's not what the PS360 were designed to do. The PS3 in particular was almost certainly designed with Blu-Rays in mind from the start.

Is it any wonder that some 360s and PS3s have broken down because the poor hardware is working overtime trying to do things that it doesn't need to do?

Do you know how absurd that sounds? None out of none consoles, I'd imagine. The only non-game playing thing that particularly taxes either system nearly as much as playing games does is probably Folding@Home on the PS3. Perhaps a small amount of PS3 Blu-Ray drives have failed from people using it as a Blu-Ray player, but almost certainly nowhere near the amount that have failed due to game playing because watching movies on it doesn't tax it as much as games. The PS360 break down more than the Wii because they were cutting edge high powered technology shoved into a small case built by the lowest bidder (and the 360 broke down considerably more because it had a considerably poorer design across the board), and the Wii doesn't because it is a Gamecube with a DVD drive and higher clock speeds on the hardware. They don't break down because playing DVDs and music proves to be too much for the hardware.
In fact, I can't even think of a single standard by which that argument makes sense.

But the Wii is a small, compact unit that does exactly what it says on the box and no more. Admittedly, Nintendo should have given it a better processor and graphics chip to compete with the 360 and PS3.
But can you imagine how small, compact, and less chance of a breakdown both the 360 and PS3 would have been if Sony and Microsoft had simply made powerful games consoles and not packed as much multi-media stuff into the hardware?
Look at the PS3 slim - it's smaller and lighter with none of the unnecessary ports and card slots that my 60GB 'fat' has.

Yeah, you pretty much have no idea what you are talking about. The reason the Wii is small and compact is because it isn't a graphical powerhouse. The reason the PS3 and 360 were so much larger at launch is because those two were. The launch PS3 and 360 weren't larger because they had multimedia functionality. They were larger because technology constraints meant they had to be that large. The reason they are smaller now is because newer technology allows them to be smaller. Sony/Microsoft only added multimedia functionality because the hardware supported it anyways.

 

[Cale]

Maybe it'll release when my Droid X contract is up.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

But can you imagine how small, compact, and less chance of a breakdown both the 360 and PS3 would have been if Sony and Microsoft had simply made powerful games consoles and not packed as much multi-media stuff into the hardware?

They added stuff to the new Xbox and it's smaller.

Look at the PS3 slim - it's smaller and lighter with none of the unnecessary ports and card slots that my 60GB 'fat' has.
It's the console Sony should have made in the first place.

That's probably more of a result of technology advancing and components shrinking.

 

[LaBounti]

And I applaud them for it. The only company out of the big 3 who make their hardware do what it's supposed to do and no more. A games console, designed primarily for gameplaying and nothing else. Is it any wonder that some 360s and PS3s have broken down because the poor hardware is working overtime trying to do things that it doesn't need to do?

This coming from the same person that thinks PS4 should be HDMI only. To get HD graphics you need a powerful processor. More power = more heat = bigger system with smaller chips in the future. The Wii has youtube, facebook, Netflix, Oprea web browser and photos. Its not the game only system you think it is. Its the same but on a smaller scale mostly hardware limited. Even the 3DS is pushing 3D movies on the go and possibly more. The gaming world you live in is turning into your living nightmare. I bet you wish it were 1995 all over again.

For the record all the systems are designed primarily for gaming. Whatever else it can do is completely optional. Only the PS3 can be used primarily as something non gaming, a Blu-Ray player, but it wasn't designed to be just a Blu-ray player.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder when this device will be revealed. Android 2.2 isnt even standard yet so 3.0 must be far off.

 

[X-Power]

@Golfman: I don't agree with you on that matter. The extra stuff that the PS3 and 360 can do help to broaden the appeal and sell more consoles. Think about it... would you rather have to buy a gaming machine, music player, DVD player, Blu-ray player all seperately or would you rather be able to get it all in one machine? More sales = more money = more money spent on developing the gaming aspect further = better consoles.

 

[lildomplaya]

Has anybody see this yet?

http://gizmodo.com/5614244/xbox-live-on-windows-phone-7-hands-on-and-first-impressions

 

[LaBounti]

Not related but I'd assume the PlayStation phone "rumored" device will be similar. I dont think it will be much of an impact to Iphone, Blackberry or Android.

 

[alfajamesromeo]

i would agree, as would nearly anyone else that has a smartphone, that i would never go back to a normal one. though i do not see what your point has to do with the matter at hand?

I am 100% against the psp2 including a phone, i would be so put off. i am all for functionality in our mobile phones, but i only want casual games from my mobile. a psp should be purely for games, music and film are alright but i pray the new psp isnt a phone. i would sooner buy the 3ds if they do that.

 

[Christian_C]

it's a cell phone mated to a psp go? Did i miss something? Or im missing something by suggesting that it might be comfortable with the slide out controls in the same shape as the phone?

I thought it would be obvious that the pictures were very crude mock ups by websites that's all.

 

[Golfman]

Yeah, you pretty much have no idea what you are talking about.

Really? And you do?
Oh bad me, I'm thick. My intellectual capacity is not worthy enough to be amongst all the braniacs here in GTP.
SHEESH!

 

[Tornado]

Really? And you do?

Yes, actually. You shouldn't have taken the statement personally, because it was a statement of fact rather than an insult. Note how I didn't just say what you quoted, and I explained in detail why you didn't know what you were talking about.

 

[Robin]

Its finally a reality! These are the first leaked images of the Sony Ericsson Playstation Phone. Its basically a PSP Go with an aerial melted to an Xperia X10, pity no UMD support.

It's hard to believe that what we're looking at is real -- but we assure you, the picture above is in fact the PlayStation Phone you've long been waiting for. As we reported back in August, the device you see is headed into the market soon, likely boasting Android 3.0 (aka Gingerbread), along with a custom Sony Marketplace which will allow you to purchase and download games designed for the new platform. The device snapped up top (and in our gallery below) is sporting a 1GHz Qualcomm MSM8655 (a chip similar to the one found in the G2, but 200MHz faster), 512MB of RAM, 1GB of ROM, and the screen is in the range of 3.7 to 4.1 inches. Looking almost identical to the mockup we hit you with this summer, the handset does indeed have a long touchpad in the center which is apparently multitouch, and you can see in the photos that it's still bearing those familiar PlayStation shoulder buttons. For Sony buffs, you'll be interested to know that there's no Memory Stick slot here, but there is support for microSD cards.

The particular model in these shots is still in prototyping mode. As such, the unit doesn't have a custom skin (not even SE's Timescape design seen on the Xperia devices), and is said to be rather buggy. We're digging into more facts as we speak, but it's likely that much of what we reported earlier is still accurate, and though the device could still be headed for a 2010 release, 2011 is looking much more realistic. Still, there's a lot of time between now and the holidays... so keep your fingers crossed!

There are quite a few more pics on Engadget...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/26/the-playstation-phone/

Robin.

 

[Tornado]

MicroSD alone cards means that it is already better than the PSP Go. I'm curious to see how it will work without a nub, though.