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Having just watched Donald Jr's latest drug/alcohol-fuelled rant Biden's bumped to 4th-last at the very least.
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Ok, but also Newt Gingrich's latest lock-up-the-jan-6th-commission rant...
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As the person who posted that rant on O&CE I'm not sure whether it was stupid rather than just plain evil (insert Simpsons screencap here). Will he ever face any real lasting consequences for it?
Technically, she's not a stupid son of an anything.
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What's really strange is that Owens's own church is bringing in Middle Eastern refugees by the thousands to Utah and putting them up in our neighborhoods. They don't know the language or culture either, and given how some of them were likely questionably vetted, it wouldn't surprise me if some of them had radical influences. The LDS Church brought a bunch of Somalians and Pacific Islanders to SLC, where more than a handful of them formed violent gangs*.
Dude needs to take a look at his "home" state and see that illegals from Mexico really aren't the issue here.
*Don't get me wrong, not all Somalians and PIs are gang members, but most of the gangs are made of those groups.
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Well put except for the "I can't speak to the black experience (obviously)" part. Especially when followed by "But I can speak to the effect the words have had on white people". I love all of the rest of it - especially the part where it's the same tactics, and the same appeal to tribalism and fear used to justify harming innocent people.
As for the one little bit I didn't like... if any minority group is going to have their cause taken up by a majority of the people (and that has to be the goal right?), it means that people who do not share their experiences must be able to learn about and even talk about those experiences to spread to word. Unless that writer was literally scared into racist action by KKK fearmongering, that's exactly what he's doing by speaking to the effect the words have had on white people too. Because if he didn't literally experience it, he's otherwise assuming that his skin color makes it ok to talk about an experience he doesn't share.
One of the great strengths of our species is the ability to empathize with people and experiences that are not ourselves and our own, and it is essential if we want to see real progress or change for minority groups. We should encourage attempts to understand and attempts to spread that understanding.
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A lot of the time when people are talking about the minority experience they're comparing it to the majority experience anyway. And that comparison is essential to the discussion and usually the whole point of the discussion. How can anyone make that comparison if they're not allowed to understand or know or speak to an experience which they do not themselves share? Unless you're Michael Jackson, you haven't lived as both a white and black person (that's a joke, obviously). So if you're black, how can you make a comparison of the black experience to the white experience (or the Hendrix experience). And if no one is able to do that, the entire discussion is pointless!
If I'm arguing that atheists or men are treated differently, I'm arguing that point based on some understanding of the way religious people (such as Christians) and women are treated.
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