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Do you happen to be related to the guy who created this, shall we say, irrational thread?
The Subaru BRZ S '12 & Toyota 86 GT '12 ARE The SAME
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GTPlanet's AUP prevents me from expressing how I truly feel about this, but suffice it to say that I wish I could attend the moment when you realize how misguided this statement is. If you haven't learned how to appreciate these cars, you likely a) aren't "doing it right", or b) are more of a snob than an enthusiast.
What, might I ask, is a "real" sports car to you?
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Thread over.
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That guys is a complete tool. He must've thought that people wear gonna agree! How
Misguided is he!?
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And, I'm going to stop you there. Really, Neal, realistic photo thread 2.0 is about to happen here, if you continually insult others, given the way you take criticism, yourself. Karma is karma, and there's no escaping it. Do what you want, but, know that someone else might make that same decision.
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I meant the guy who created that thread. Not anyone in this thread. But I get what your driving at. Fair enough.
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You know what? I wish they had put the GT300 version in also. Now that would have been awesome!
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Thread over.
Dude. I posted proof that they're not the same two or four posts up. It's not "easy money for PD" if they actually do take the time for remodeling a new body kit etc. for a car they already sold.
The Scion and the Toyota are much more similar; therefore, the Scion was free.
But, the Subaru was remodeled, meaning that people spent time (and therefore money = labour) on the remodeling. The remodeling means that you must be reimbursed unless you want to lose money.Certainly, we can all "hhhhmmmm" and "hawwww" about whether it's a justifiable purchase. If you don't think so, don't buy it.
I did, and I'm happy with the purchase; I haven't even driven the BRZ yet, but it looks nice in the photos I've seen of it, so far, so I can't wait to put the Winter Stars treatment on it, and try it out myself.
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MrMelancholy15Dude. I posted proof that they're not the same two or four posts up. It's not "easy money for PD" if they actually do take the time for remodeling a new body kit etc. for a car they already sold.
The Scion and the Toyota are much more similar; therefore, the Scion was free.
Certainly, we can all "hhhhmmmm" and "hawwww" about whether it's a justifiable purchase. If you don't think so, don't buy it.
I'm sorry mate, but I can't sit idly by why you big up something that doesn't deserve it.
The GT 86, scion FR-S and the BR-Z are the same car. The only comparable difference in GT5 is the aero kits and the standard suspension setup. The asthetic differences are negligible.
The work that had to be done for the BR-Z was tiny compared to the HSV. How can you justify the price being the same?
I could also argue the same point with the "new" GT-R, but that is for another time.
I DO NOT want to fall out mate, but there is nothing you can say that would convince me that PD have not cashed in here.
Don't get me wrong, I am buying the cars tommorow, but that is only because I don't want to see that annoying download arrow above the BR-Z in the NCD. Lol
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MrMelancholy15Dude. I posted proof that they're not the same two or four posts up. It's not "easy money for PD" if they actually do take the time for remodeling a new body kit etc. for a car they already sold.
The Scion and the Toyota are much more similar; therefore, the Scion was free.
Certainly, we can all "hhhhmmmm" and "hawwww" about whether it's a justifiable purchase. If you don't think so, don't buy it.
Why do you say that the Toyota and Scion are much more similar than the Subaru is to any of them? Well, the BRZ may have received different handling characteristics and a sound update but the Scion was remodeled as much as the Subaru was. Look at exterior and interor details and they all appear sufficiently different.
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I like the 86 and I am going to purchasing once they become low km second hand cars, Atm they have an 18 month waiting list in Australia to purchase so they must be al right seller.
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In my opinion all three cars look different. Silouhette etc is same but if you look at them from the front//rear you´ll notice that they aren´t the same Cars.
PD has to model the Premiums from scratch => handing out the FR-S for free was a superb gift.
Handlingwise (at least in GT5 due to me not driven the Real Deal) I can´t feel a slight difference if they are Stock.
86GT can drift in stock form quite easily.
FR-S is a bit harder to drift
BR-Z compared to the stock 86GT it is undriftable (I could drift her but it was more work)
I think the Transmission is a tad different too but that can be just in my brain
PD has to model the Premiums from scratch => handing out the FR-S for free was a superb gift.
Handlingwise (at least in GT5 due to me not driven the Real Deal) I can´t feel a slight difference if they are Stock.
86GT can drift in stock form quite easily.
FR-S is a bit harder to drift
BR-Z compared to the stock 86GT it is undriftable (I could drift her but it was more work)
I think the Transmission is a tad different too but that can be just in my brain
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you bought it so quit complaining and for one the BRZ grabs the corners alot better than the Toyota and scion
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They look the same too me, finding the external cosmetic differences feels a bit like playing a game of spot the difference, but I do like the Impreza style rear wing that you can fit to the BRZ. Gives the car a more aggressive and pretty cool look.
Fitted one of my BRZs with the type A aero parts and the Impreza style rear wing, painted it an extra shiny, deep black, and fitted it with the black touge rims, and boy does it look sexy. May upload a photo later on.
Fitted one of my BRZs with the type A aero parts and the Impreza style rear wing, painted it an extra shiny, deep black, and fitted it with the black touge rims, and boy does it look sexy. May upload a photo later on.
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Several magazines continually remind buyers that the Subaru is noticeably faster, and that the Toyota is more flamboyant than Daijiro Yoshihara's hair, and slides as much as his drift car.
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Different weather, different track conditions.
Same HP and TQ...
if anything, the BRZ is the slowest one because of all the extra options it has. nav, hid, dlr, ect over standard
not to mention all the assists that these cars can have.. one reviewer might have had one, and another not
Differences in assembly tolerances could amount to a few horsepower, sure
these cars are the freaking same. The subaru has slightly tweaked suspension. keyword slightly. there is no way you can pit these 3 cars up against each other in any way and have it be fair. you will get inconsistent results every single time, that i can promise you
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Or those inconsistent results are more consistent than you think. I'll bring you data.
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No they haven't. You're just making stuff up now.
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