The TVR Fan Club

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1. Race Idiot

2. Keeno UK

3. Jazza

4. Slip2Rock

5. W_Conneely

6. BMW POWER

7. Powerman (A.K.A Josh7058)

8. GT3bedbuddy

9. Pedrodaman

10. Illegal

11. TVR_Mad
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Change GT3bedbuddy to Garconis, would ya TVRKing?
 
w00t!

Just realised that I've got 11 members

*Thinks if this maybe the most successful club since MAZ, Viper Freak and Rumple*
 
In the meanwhile, what car is the old blue one on the second photo?
http://www.midessextvr.co.uk/thumbsduxford.htm

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i know wat that is its a wedge/tasmin and it WAS a 3.9 but he has put a 5.0 lt racing spec engine and has tuned it and it sounds GREAT:eek: and it goes qucik too i went up to Duxford TVR MAINIA 2002 and that were that pic is taken and then we got to go down teh runway that was 3/4 and it got up to about 160mph and my dads V8S got up to 130mph and thats how quick it must be
 
i got 2 vids of goin down the runway if any1 would like tehm to host them and then post it here cos i cnat do taht i dont know how it would be nice:D
 
This is a TVR Speed 12:
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This is a TVR Cerbera Speed 12:
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This is a TVR Cerbera GT2???:
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IS the GT2 better than the Cerbera Speed 12? Is it in production?!
 
I think both participated in gt races; not 100% sure about the concept car - I think later regulations prevented the concept car´s further participation they limited his hp at least. The first one - the concept, project 12/7 or just speed 12 had about the same hp of the cerbera speed 12 but I think the chassis was more solid and the car overall slightly better. The concept was never put in production, in fact I believe that only two of them exist - a show car and the test model wich was somewhat more powerful I think. A real rarity. Check this page if you want
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=481&left=
 
Obviously there is a Cerbera GT2
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Obviously for you I wasn´t sure. But after some research I can tell you that the 3rd picture is no cerbera gt2. the gt2 follows the standard lines of the cerbera models and to answer your question: no way the car just isn´t powerful enough still it is pretty fast and light
 
From Piston Heads.com
Making it world debut at the London Motor Show was the Cerbera Speed 12. It's a departure from TVR's usual manufacturing methods. It's got a hybrid aluminium honeycomb and tubular steel chassis. Carbon fibre bodywork sits atop the chassis. The whole body is reportedly only 40kg.

Up front sits an 800bhp V12 engine. Although originating from two Speed 6 engines bolted together, the V12 has been well developed since.

TVR claim that the GT2 is in the tradition of weekend race cars that can be driven to and from the track. With TVR now serious about contending a GT series next year, they will have to produce road going cars for homologation purposes. Expected to retail in excess of £150,000 you'll need to convince TVR that you're pretty serious about a purchase before they'll let you near this beast.

Construction
International GT rules mandate a flat floor and a tubular steel roll cage and so the primary chassis of the car consists of a T45 steel tubular safety cell which is integrally braced by the flat aluminium honeycomb floor and bulkheads.

This hybrid construction both follows the racing rules and allows for the car to be quite simple to assemble. The front bulkhead is immediately behind the engine whilst the rear one lies directly ahead of the rear wheels. This allows the exhausts to exit cleanly away from the engine and then turn ahead of the footwell to run down the sills, and the driver to sit as far rearward as possible.

The removal of the previous structural reliance upon the tunnel allows this to be as narrow as the gearbox dictates and in turn allows the driver to be positioned further inboard towards the centreline of the car. The honeycomb floor and bulkheads are stiff enough to accept the seat mounts and pedal assemblies directly without need for further reinforcement.

Side Impact Safety
The floors are stabilised at their outer edges where they are folded up 90° to give 40mm of crushable protection for the occupants. The wide sills house the silencers which are also contribute to the side impact protection which ends finally with the cage doorbars. Because the floor and bulkhead assembly form the complete cockpit area they can be assembled, bonded and riveted before the cage is bolted into place. This then forms a sealed centre section that contains the driver and fuel tank safely within the rollover cage and also has the required flat floor.

There are front and rear subframes that are simple, light yet stiff tubular fabrications (again in T45 steel). These are bolted to the cage through the honeycomb bulkhead panels via ingenious self aligning steel fittings that make use of the shear stiffness of the bulkheads to triangulate the roll cage structure.

Engine Fitment
The engine is fitted by removing the entire front end of the car, without the necessity of disconnecting any oil or water pipes. The outermost ends of the subframes terminate in aerospace alloy billet bulkheads that fulfil both structural and practical roles.

At the front two bulkheads back to back, machined from solid plates, form a void that is the oil dry sump tank; provide all the mountings for the front suspension and steering rack and physically connect the open subframe tubes.

At the rear a similar bulkhead machined from solid plate seals the rear of the differential housing and provides mountings for the rear suspension. The differential housing provides a structural load path between the rear subframe and the cabin section via a fabricated casing that also locates the rear lower wishbones.

Suspension
The suspension consists of classic double wishbones all round, with coil over gas dampers operated by pushrods and with rising rate anti-roll bars front and rear. The centre lock magnesium wheels run on steel hubs within exquisitely fabricated aerospace steel vaned uprights to allow cooling air to reach the massive (15") brake discs and calipers. At the rear the driveshaft CV joints are integrated within the hub/bearing assembly. All of the suspension joints pivot on spherical bearings.

Bodywork
The bodywork is all manufactured in house out of carbon fibre pre-preg composite with a mixture of Nomex and Kevlar reinforcement, the overall style being that of a "Cerbera on steroids"!

The entire front and rear are one piece mouldings for quick and easy access whilst the cabin section is bonded to the honeycomb bulkheads and sides to form the sealed passenger compartment.

Particular attention has been paid to the air flow with the intention of minimising under bonnet turbulence and cooling, both for the engine and brakes and also for the driver.

The front screen contains a heating element for elegant demisting whilst rear vision is perhaps described at best as "adequate", given the imposing presence of the rear wing.

The Devil's Car
All in all it's a giant of a car which could take TVR into the top tier of GT racing. Le Mans is a target but only when they're absolutely ready.

It's first outing should be in the GT series in 2000 with Ian McKellar - the 1999 Tuscan champion - at the wheel.
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They called the GT2 the Cerbera Speed 12!!!??? Is it just a newer model or is it a concept, or?
 
Now I´m confused - I´ve seen sites showing a cerbera gt2 (from 2000) wich looked like a regular cerbera and sites showing another cerbera gt2 with a similar text to the one posted by Garconis with images of what I though to be the cerbera speed 12 of 2002. Did you also see the black race car? Man that was monsterous! The text itself points to changes to the traditional cerbera that could morph him into something closer to the cerbera speed 12. Maybe that´s really it although I believe the "speed 12" or "cerbera speed 12" name should be kept. Still I´m not yet convinced have to research some more - if anyone finds something conclusive do tell, this is of interest.
 
I am thinking, that the Speed 12 that we know is the road version that will be sold, and the "GT2" posted, is a road version of what they will be entering for the races.

Or something.
 
LOL, nice hair-doo.

And now about this Cerbera GT2 confusion:

Thanks to EscudoKing101 over at Team-iR:

Garconis:
Is it not the same as a Cerbera Speed 12?
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EscudoKing101:
Absolutely not. one's a road car, the other is a street-legal race car. However, the GT2 and Speed 12 get mixed up very often. (kinda like the McLaren F-1 LM and F-1 GTR)
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Garconis:
So which one is street legal racer and what one is road car?
And both are in production? What one is faster? Why does the GT2 look cooler?
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EscudoKing101:
* the speed 12 is the road car, the GT2 is the race.

* yes (the GT2 is extremely limited).

* The GT2.

* cuz its faster.
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Garconis:
What do you mean the GT2 is the race car? You mean its the road version of the race car? Well I know the Cerbera Speed 12 also has a race version. I am very confused here. Please take the time to help my young mind out.
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EscudoKing101:
the Cerbera GT2 is essentially a race car with the minimal mods to make it street-legal. The Cerbera Speed 12 is the top-of-the-line Cerbera. However, their race versions are alike.

Other cars with a similar situation are the Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM and CLK-GTR, and the Dodge Viper GT2 and GTS (to be closer to home)
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Well, thats all the questions I have about it. Does this help your confusion as much as it helped mine?
 

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