The Words of the Winds are Now all Clear

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hardvibes
I just heard and read on wikipedia that gt5 will have only 350 cars since the beginning, not 1000, the rest will come with DLC (5 euros car packs)
IS THAT A JOKE?
edit: link http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_5
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Would you like me to log into Wiki and change that for you? Get the point?

81. Hockenheim It would be amazing if PD could get the old, original version :)
 
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Lotrzyna
We should take away 22 tracks since these are layouts of other tracks but still it would be 50 but on the other hand I think most of the old tracks will not make it to GT5 my list of 24 (over 20) tracks is:

Suzuka
Eiger
London
HSR
Daytona
Fuji
Circuit de la Sarthe
Top Gear Track
Cote d' Azur
Norburgring
Grand Valley
Laguna Seca
Tokyo Route 246
Las vegas Strip
Twin Ring Montegi
Tsukuba
Special Stage
Spa-Francorchamps
Imola
Monza
Silverstone
Hockenheim
Deep Forest Raceway
Madrid ?

Even after cutting a lot of tracks out some of these tracks will still not make it because I did not include any rally track... I will check how much of my "prediction" becomes truth ;) (considering info on Japanese page was real which I think was)
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You're right. Just copied the list (except the bold) and just saw pike's peak hill climb which i highly doubt will be in the game.
 
Masi_23
You're right. Just copied the list (except the bold) and just saw pike's peak hill climb which i highly doubt will be in the game.
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Considering the amount of space on a BluRay Disc, they could put every track that has ever been in a GT game and then some. That would be astonishing and tremendously appreciated. It would also boldly display the heritage and legacy of Gran Turismo.
 
Masi_23
(...)don't you think 60 different layouts is a little too much from merely 20 tracks?
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I thought so, but I've thinking about how many more variables we have to play with now. And it's not just short/long or fw/reverse. We have weather and time of day now. So in those 20 tracks, some may be one way and no variations, and rally/nascar may only have 2 variations (fw/reverse on rally, night/day on nascar), but some of them can be night/day, dry/wet, short/long, fw/reverse.

So some tracks could have as many variations as:

1 - xx - Day Dry
2 - xx - Day Wet
3 - xx - Night Dry
4 - xx - Night Wet
5 - xx Short - Day Dry
6 - xx Short - Day Wet
7 - xx Short - Night Dry
8 - xx Short - Night Wet
9 - xx Reverse - Day Dry
10 - xx Reverse - Day Wet
11 - xx Reverse - Night Dry
12 - xx Reverse - Night Wet
13 - xx Short Reverse - Day Dry
14 - xx Short Reverse - Day Wet
15 - xx Short Reverse - Night Dry
16 - xx Short Reverse - Night Wet

That's sixteen variations. Obviously not all will/can have as many. But even removing reverse or short is still eight variations. And removing both and leaving just weather and time, it's still four variations.

To go from 20 tracks to 60 layouts, in average a track only has to have 3 variations. So it looks very possible to me.

Again, I hope I'm wrong :dopey:
 
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If anybody again quotes that tentative wishlist of courses that have nothing to do with reality and facts I will personaly delete this whole thread

:)
 
amar212
If anybody again quotes that tentative wishlist of courses that have nothing to do with reality and facts I will personaly delete this whole thread

:)
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Lol i bet someone will do it now just to see what you do.

Not me though, I feel your pain. To be honest most of these popular topics are just going round in circles until new info is released as people speculate, then respeculate.
 
I agree with Amar, "too much speculation" and some maters are being discussed beyond any possible interest (yes, I mean the damage...).

But I disagree on "going round in circles". From all initial interpretations and suppositions I'm seeing a few solid theories now, and I enjoy the talk and the mental exercise :)
 
hardvibes
I just heard and read on wikipedia that gt5 will have only 350 cars since the beginning, not 1000, the rest will come with DLC (5 euros car packs)
IS THAT A JOKE?
edit: link http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_5
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I already replaced it with the news posted on the japanese polyphony site that has been deleted ;)
Wikipedia is not that great for reliable news and there was people on our italian forum that were talking about dlc content just to hit gt5..
Thanks guys :)
 
I guess all those lists are being created amir212, because they're trying to make sense of what you just edited on your post!

You say(in response to the 2nd wind): 20 tracks with 60 layouts

And that doesn't sit well with us, so everyone is scrambling mentally for answers.

Please clarify: Did you mean 20 NEW tracks or 20 tracks IN TOTAL in gt5?
 
lucag120
I guess all those lists are being created amir212, because they're trying to make sense of what you just edited on your post!

You say(in response to the 2nd wind): 20 tracks with 60 layouts

And that doesn't sit well with us, so everyone is scrambling mentally for answers.

Please clarify: Did you mean 20 NEW tracks or 20 tracks IN TOTAL in gt5?
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Yeah let's hear it amar.. this is what we are trying to get cleared up 👍
 
back on topic, kinda late on.

I was just reading through 'the winds' again and was wondering what peoples up to date take on all of them is. Now that we have lots more info maybe we could take a closer look at the ones yet to be decoded, rather than argue about the ones that have.

Fifth wind says that reunion will happen in two forms, one greater than other and birdtamers will have freedom to decide which reunion they will attend. Greater reunion will ask for great sacrifice to be made in order to get all present and future treasures without new sacrifices needed, while smaller reunion will come in form already known, asking for more sacrifices if future treasures catches the eyes of the birdtamers.
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With the news that GT5P will be shipped with a lot of PS3's over the next coming months i was wondering if this could be translated as being:

The game will be available two ways.

One will be a full game, with regular free DLC, this will be expensive. (Real GT5 in my eyes)

and similar to what was described about GTHD:
One game will be a GT5P expansion, this will allow millions of players to add to GT5P the content they want. Maybe they only want a selection of the 170 premium cars and will choose to be selective about the tracks. This will bring in some money for PD. Even better would be if they made GT5P free to download, and people would only pay for expansions. I know many players who would rather pay £5 to expand a free game than shell out say £70 for a full game.
 
irnbrutwinturbo
back on topic, kinda late on.

I was just reading through 'the winds' again and was wondering what peoples up to date take on all of them is. Now that we have lots more info maybe we could take a closer look at the ones yet to be decoded, rather than argue about the ones that have.



With the news that GT5P will be shipped with a lot of PS3's over the next coming months i was wondering if this could be translated as being:

The game will be available two ways.

One will be a full game, with regular free DLC, this will be expensive. (Real GT5 in my eyes)

and similar to what was described about GTHD:
One game will be a GT5P expansion, this will allow millions of players to add to GT5P the content they want. Maybe they only want a selection of the 170 premium cars and will choose to be selective about the tracks. This will bring in some money for PD. Even better would be if they made GT5P free to download, and people would only pay for expansions. I know many players who would rather pay £5 to expand a free game than shell out say £70 for a full game.
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Talking about the tracks is still on-topic my friend. :)

And check this out: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=115870&page=130
 
regnar
My interpretation of this, Has to go back to Black Chamber's translation
"60 courses confirmed with 20 or more to be revealed"

60 Courses from the previous GT games, 20 new Courses


I have listed 72 tracks from the previous games, doesn't
include reverse layouts:

List of tracks

:)
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Just want to clarify, This is a list of previous known tracks that have been in Gran Turismo & not a attempt to create a new GT5 Track list. Some combination of this list
may find its way into the "60 confirmed"

Tracks such as "Indianapolis" would fall into the new tracks, "20 or more to be reavealed"
 
lucag120
I guess all those lists are being created amir212, because they're trying to make sense of what you just edited on your post!

You say(in response to the 2nd wind): 20 tracks with 60 layouts

And that doesn't sit well with us, so everyone is scrambling mentally for answers.

Please clarify: Did you mean 20 NEW tracks or 20 tracks IN TOTAL in gt5?
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My nickname is amar, not amir. Thank you for writing it down properly, it has only 3 letters to remember.

To clear this for you and everybody else who does not take his time to get with the facts:

I didn't make those tracks list, nor I will ever make any list that is not based on facts.

I used official info that was revealded on PD's official site and then pulled down in order to back up one of my claims (known as winds) in initial post of this thread.

And I didn't MEANT anything, I was just talking BASED ON FACTS or NON-OFFICIAL INFO that I have.

And I really do not give a slightest damn does that "sit well with you".

Constant troling, flaming and running in circles with the same subjects over-and-over again - just because majority of members here are LAZY TO READ MORE THAN LAST 3 PAGES of ANY THREAD around here - while myself and other respected members are trying very hard to keep discussion coherenet and normal - is very annoing

Thank you in advance for taking everything above in account.

Regards,

amar212
 
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Hear hear Amar!! 👍 And you're being kind with the past 3 pages....I would've suggested the past 30!! Since Gamescom this thread has had that many moronic comments, because all I have read from most of those comments is crap, crap and MORE CRAP!! And guess what mate, it will happen again after TGS. :rolleyes:

To anyone who doesn't want to support the fact that Amar provides us with the best information outside of PD (WHICH, NONE OF YOU WHINGERS THAT KEEP ATTACKING AMAR COULD EVER GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE) then I on behalf of the people who DO support Amar's effort, suggest that you should button your pie holes and leave the talking to the mature people.

Sorry mods & Amar, but it did need to be said, this thread has gone so far south in the past 3 or 4 days it's nearing Antarctica!
 
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I support Amar, because the winds and because, for me the most important thing, he knows something about GT5 and he wants to share with us, but, for a moment, be in her shoes, imagine you know all aspects from GT5, but you cant say anything!!, i'm really sure if anyone of us had that responsability we told everything to everybody!!

I mind, the guy has great balls, and he deserve the respect of all of us, and the running in circles thing, for the moment, is a usual thing is this forum; but, the most of us dont have the suficient information, maybe that's the reason.

Thanks Amar:tup:

Sorry my english.
 
So either the NON OFFICIAL info from Amar is incorrect, the weird official GT5 webpage info is incorrect, or somethings not wright with the translation from japanese to english.

The other winds seem pretty accurate... but the unofficial info was a while ago, and of course, things could change in the meantime I think? For al we know they planned to have 50 tracks finished by now, but the track modeler/builder guy got sick.... There could be a lot of reasons why Amar's info seems a little bit off at this point.

Playing Gran Tursimo is fun, but waiting for the next news and speculate about it comes close after that. Maybe Polyphony has a lot of surprises for us yet to come? let's wait and find out!
 
BenzAMG
or somethings not right with the translation from japanese to english.
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This is what I think is/was wrong, and maybe not just the translation but that fact that many people have said parts of it didn't even make sense in Japanese either.
 
torontoml
This is what I think is/was wrong, and maybe not just the translation but that fact that many people have said parts of it didn't even make sense in Japanese either.
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We really need a hardcore Japanese GT fan, who could understand the words and put in the correct context, and then transpose it to English. Not just translate the words.
 
Hmm, my take on it is as follows:

It doesn't matter what it ships with, because there will be DLC for it anyway! The DLC will be free if you buy the expensive 'full' version of the game, or if people choose just to upgrade prologue, they will have to pay for future updates...

20 tracks!? 80 tracks!? 170 cars?! 1000 cars?! doesn't matter too much to me because I'm expecting GT to be continually updated for years to come. They will have built the games architecture to be able to slot in new cars and new tracks (logically then I guess extra race series' too - or else you'd end up with new tracks only raceable in TT or arcade mode).

Kaz has a vision, it's a big one, and it will take time... but patience will be rewarded!!

For now, I've gone back to ragging round Grindelwald in a 740i from GT2....
 
hornet_burnout
I believe we will get a lot of free stuff via DLC. Not a fan of buying DLC myself... not on a GT release at least.
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We live in a world where DLC reigns supreme.
Sony may use DLC as a means to make as much money as possible out of this game, even if that means releasing it unfinished and getting people to pay up for the full, finished article.
Sony may feel that so many people may want damage that they can charge for it.
And people will probably put their wallet before their brains.

amar212
You shouldn't call anybody moron or other names because it is rude.
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Is this you first day on the internet? :lol:
 
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