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It’s my currrent strategy(RS Tyres), time ~ 25:50 ~26.0x ..
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The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - share your setups, tips, and cars
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It’s my currrent strategy(RS Tyres), time ~ 25:50 ~26.0x ..
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- 5,798
- Manila, PH
- TakuKanonji22
Yeah, but my lap times would be more consistent rather than sudden jumps in times. SS tires are good on the beginning parts of the race while keeping its grip compared to the IM tires that lasted for two laps only.
I also did 25-minute range on SS too:
Also, that run was done when the Beat wasn't even fully modified. I was trying to keep a balanced setup.
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- United States
Tamed the K-swapped Fiat Abarth:
It's incredibly fast on the straight but it's narrow width and short wheelbase make it a white knuckle drive through turns 3-6. It's actually really slow through these turns as it flips between having grip and sliding. The car basically bounces and shakes its whole way through them. I tried adjusting the suspension damping thinking it was having difficulty with the weight transfer but no specific settings would get this car to calm down. Basically you just have to agree to go slow through these turns and really easy on your brake amd throttle inputs to not upset the car too much.
It does eat through tires as well. I had to pit twice for tires and needed a few laps of fuel on the second pit. I ran somewhere in the low 27 minute mark with the car and a fastest lap in the low 2:10's. Nothing to write home about. Due to it's crazy nature I'm not going to even post the tune because there are so many better and enjoyable cars to run this race with than the Abarth. I just wanted to see if it was possible.
It's incredibly fast on the straight but it's narrow width and short wheelbase make it a white knuckle drive through turns 3-6. It's actually really slow through these turns as it flips between having grip and sliding. The car basically bounces and shakes its whole way through them. I tried adjusting the suspension damping thinking it was having difficulty with the weight transfer but no specific settings would get this car to calm down. Basically you just have to agree to go slow through these turns and really easy on your brake amd throttle inputs to not upset the car too much.
It does eat through tires as well. I had to pit twice for tires and needed a few laps of fuel on the second pit. I ran somewhere in the low 27 minute mark with the car and a fastest lap in the low 2:10's. Nothing to write home about. Due to it's crazy nature I'm not going to even post the tune because there are so many better and enjoyable cars to run this race with than the Abarth. I just wanted to see if it was possible.
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I've been messing with a set-up for the Mazda3 with the R26B swap. It mulches its front tires a bit... I can manage a 7 lap stint with aggressive use of the wet parts of the track on full send. However, you never need to stop for fuel! It also gets to 197 MPH / 317 KPH effortlessly on the straights.
Think it's around a 26-27 min run? Lap times are 2:15 to 2:13.
Think it's around a 26-27 min run? Lap times are 2:15 to 2:13.
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- New York City
- challah_rajni
I revisited the K20 Honda Beat. It's the fastest car I've driven in this event. Tire wear is terrible, as others have mentioned, but the car takes max power much better than I expected.
Best Time: 24:24.365
Fastest Lap: 1:55.540
Max power and ultimate upgrades
NO wall riding
Strategy:
Sports Softs are the much less frustrating strategy though. More time efficient for grinding because fewer restarts are needed, and lower risk of losing the CRB. My tune wasn't taking full advantage of the tires though. Also, I like the feel of racing tires near the end of the event.
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Best Time: 24:24.365
Fastest Lap: 1:55.540
Max power and ultimate upgrades
NO wall riding
Strategy:
- 1 Stop on Racing Hard Tires only
- Pit at the end of lap 7 for new tires and fuel
- Stay on the dry line and don't push until around lap 4
I arrived at a similar conclusion. As much as I like the softer compounds, my lack of consistency with this build + lapped traffic + my learning the limits of the car, I wasn't fast enough to make up the time spent on multiple pit stops. That's also why I chose to suffer on racing tires in the wet. The Beat is way faster on Intermediate Tires on lap 1, but the extra pit stop and driving on worn tires half way through lap 2 + having to pass the leaders again made that strategy too frustrating for me.
Sports Softs are the much less frustrating strategy though. More time efficient for grinding because fewer restarts are needed, and lower risk of losing the CRB. My tune wasn't taking full advantage of the tires though. Also, I like the feel of racing tires near the end of the event.
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I suppose I'm lucky to get my swapped Mazda 3 to eat all the tires equally 
That is an issue with the car though. I want to love it, but it has a weakness for Tokyo that many other don't have. I might do one more tune for it making it as light as possible, but I don't think it's ever going to be the 25:30ish no stopper that is my benchmark. Sub 26 yes, rather easily.
NSX swap is out for me, for similar reasons. I just can't make it keep the rear tires in order. It's actually worse than the Mazda, requires very conservative driving already from lap 8 onwards. The BMW M3 Suzuki swap has potential because one can tune it for crazy good power/weight ratio, but with full power it too eats up rear tyres quickly.
My surprising favourite right now is the Alfa 4C Gr.3 Road car with the Suzuki swap. It has actual potential for at least 25:40 run time, seems capable of being both nimble and stable, has good ergonomics for VR and is actually kinda fun as a concept, having something in common with the Suzuki VGT donor so works for me on a philosophical level too! Tuning still ongoing, will post at some point.
That is an issue with the car though. I want to love it, but it has a weakness for Tokyo that many other don't have. I might do one more tune for it making it as light as possible, but I don't think it's ever going to be the 25:30ish no stopper that is my benchmark. Sub 26 yes, rather easily.
NSX swap is out for me, for similar reasons. I just can't make it keep the rear tires in order. It's actually worse than the Mazda, requires very conservative driving already from lap 8 onwards. The BMW M3 Suzuki swap has potential because one can tune it for crazy good power/weight ratio, but with full power it too eats up rear tyres quickly.
My surprising favourite right now is the Alfa 4C Gr.3 Road car with the Suzuki swap. It has actual potential for at least 25:40 run time, seems capable of being both nimble and stable, has good ergonomics for VR and is actually kinda fun as a concept, having something in common with the Suzuki VGT donor so works for me on a philosophical level too! Tuning still ongoing, will post at some point.
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- United States
I tried the DP-100 tonight because it had been a while. I felt like I was pushing to my limits and the best I could muster was a 25:41 race time with a fastest lap of 2:05.271. I really have no clue how you managed to go 3 seconds faster per lap around the same track let alone 30 seconds faster for a 12 lap race. You averaged almost 3 seconds per lap faster than me and I feel like I'm on the edge of control hoping that I can stay full throttle around the turns without drifting too wide into a barrier on the exit.
25:10 is like alien speed vs my 25:41.
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- Manila, PH
- TakuKanonji22
Turbo lag for days. 
I'm working on a new non-widebody tune right now, so this is not final but it's already a sub-26 min tune and not too squirmy either. The obvious shortcoming as it is are the stock brakes, could trade some power for stopping power. Going to try tuning brake balance first though, maybe -2.
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Such a fun car though!
- 5,798
- Manila, PH
- TakuKanonji22
Revisited the DP-100. Still remains to be the easiest to use and most consistent of them all.
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- United States
With all my grinding in the last week I finally was able to afford the Shelby Daytona Coupe. Loaded it up with everything (minus the supercharger) and swapped out the tires for Sport Mediums.
27:07.096 Race Time
2:10.271 Fastest Lap
Pretty good car, especially for having almost no downforce. Not as "grip it and rip it" fast through the turns like the Stratos, but also not as slip and slide fun through the turns like the Porsche 904. It's sure of itself like a lot of these old race cars tend to be, but it wallows a bit on the weight transfer so you can experience the older suspension qwerks that you don't get in the modern cars.
So with one down, I only need to run this race 24 more times to have the car pay for itself... Such an expensive car....
27:07.096 Race Time
2:10.271 Fastest Lap
Pretty good car, especially for having almost no downforce. Not as "grip it and rip it" fast through the turns like the Stratos, but also not as slip and slide fun through the turns like the Porsche 904. It's sure of itself like a lot of these old race cars tend to be, but it wallows a bit on the weight transfer so you can experience the older suspension qwerks that you don't get in the modern cars.
So with one down, I only need to run this race 24 more times to have the car pay for itself... Such an expensive car....
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So, finally got the Mazda 3 swap to under 26 minutes. The suspension and differential are pretty good now, some time to be gained by tweaking the gear ratios. It is an okay car, will get its fair share of runs just because of that engine sound. Just not as fast and easy as the Focus RS swap or my go-to 4WD Tokyo car, S1 Pikes Peak. The front tyres still are a limiting factor as the photo beneath shows (just at the finish line). With this tune, I can manage the tyres by breaking early and on a straight line, then applying throttle on turn in already and keeping the car leaning more towards the back tyres. So requires some driving style adjustments, which to me is a shortcoming of the car (or the tuning, but this is as good as I seem able to get it).
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Anyone else feel like they relaxed the CRB here? I decided to grind a bit here the past couple nights to recoup my recent spending spree on S Parts and I’ve had quite a few run-ins with AI and still gotten the CRB. I also had an instance where I obliterated the AI in front of me entering the pits at 185mph and still got it. I know the CRB has always seemed inconsistent here but it really feels like it’s a bit harder to lose now. Maybe I’ve just gotten lucky?
I have noticed that I’ve hit other cars and still got the CRB lately but there was just one time I had no clue why I lost it, so I’m not totally sure.
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I had the same happen to me on Friday. No ill mannered behavior and no CRB, and I am more than a little familiar with this race, must have raced 1,000 times in last 12 months.
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If it's just a light tap to the side of the car it doesnt seem to effect the CRB, so long as you weren't the one hitting the AI. I've had the AI bump me sometimes in the hair pin or in to turn 1 and I've still got the CRB.
I'm not sure why some here are having issues getting the CRB if they are driving safely. It's usually just the hitting of AI and crossing the white lines at the hairpin (basically ignoring the track limits) that causes you to lose the CRB. If you aren't doing that you should still get it.
I'm not sure why some here are having issues getting the CRB if they are driving safely. It's usually just the hitting of AI and crossing the white lines at the hairpin (basically ignoring the track limits) that causes you to lose the CRB. If you aren't doing that you should still get it.
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The other night I went into the back of a car (that I was lapping) hard enough to make my front bumper go red, and still got the CRB.
I wondered at the time if it was because I then went on to overtake the car and finish the race while he still had a lap to go?
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- southport
I keep trying this event, i must be rubbish to you guys, im only getting around 10th if that, never have any grip etc or the tyres are done after a lap or 2......ive got the honda beat maxed out aswell...
I couldn’t pull off a win without using the swapped Cappuccino until I got VR which made finding lines much easier but I often still struggle on Easy and I still can’t manage a CRB consistently. I wouldn’t recommend using racing tires anymore since the intermediates wear off so quickly and it’s too wet for slicks in the beginning. Sport tires are good enough for a win. I also don’t wall ride but a lot of people do and it can certainly make some of the more difficult corners much easier.
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- New York City
- challah_rajni
The regular drivers in this thread have done this race A LOT making all sorts of builds work and seeing how fast they can go. You're bound to see some wild stuff in here. Several pages back, we were trying to find out what was the lowest PP we could win this race with. The record was around 524PP
Builds running racing tires for this race were severely handicapped several updates ago. Intermediates wear down VERY quickly as you've experienced. Meanwhile Racing Hards, Mediums and Softs are all subject to major grip loss when you drive over wet parts of track (not just the puddles). If you don't want to use Intermediates, you must approach this race the way you would License S-10 in the Porsche 917.
You must stay on the "dry" racing line. Falling off the dry line is like having your grip turned off. The first 4 laps of this race are miserable - you will have to under-drive the car - but the dry line gets wider and easier to see as the track dries out.
A 1-stop in a fully tuned K20 swapped Honda Beat is possible on Racing Hards, but that strategy can be... frustrating, especially with this car being quick and twitchy. Fun times if you're a determined masochist though
Sports Softs are a viable alternative in the meantime as you learn where the dry line is and how to get the most grip from it.
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- Manila, PH
- TakuKanonji22
Porsche 930 with the RSR engine swap:
Rear diffuser needed to be installed. No widebody.
I pit at Lap 7 only to change tires. If only the tire wear isn't excruciating, it would be a no-stop run.
Rear diffuser needed to be installed. No widebody.
I pit at Lap 7 only to change tires. If only the tire wear isn't excruciating, it would be a no-stop run.
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- Theresa, Wisconsin
Running the swapped Cupaccino you can get 2 laps out of IM's, pit for RM, end of lap 2 and again end of lap 8 and still run a 25 minute race time. I have been 24.30 so far with this strategy. The 25x tire wear did slow race times though, I was running 24.0x before the change to 25x tire wear, still trying strategies to get me that fast again.
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- United States
Here is my tutorial video on how to race this race. It's actually super simple. You dont have to use the Celica, there are plenty of examples of other cars to use in this thread, but the strategy and racing lines are all the same between the cars.
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