I was led to believe 'yankee' or 'yank' was derived to mean European settlers in USA. Had i of known it was racist to use this term then i'd never use it.
Someone better tell the New York Yankees NYC at the Yankee Stadium....quickly!!!!
These 'glitched' yank tanks.
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I was led to believe 'yankee' or 'yank' was derived to mean European settlers in USA. Had i of known it was racist to use this term then i'd never use it.
Someone better tell the New York Yankees NYC at the Yankee Stadium....quickly!!!!
You didn't, I was saying that is the type of argument you are using. It's pretty much the argument I see every time someone wants to discredit U.S. motorsports.
Which is where I got that conclusion from.
Did you really expect that statement to go unnoticed?
I don't see anyone coming to conclusions other than you.
Shall i explain again?
OK in Europe we invented circuit racing to test cars and drivers using straights and corners, this is cold hard facts. The first official race track built for purpose was Brooklands in UK. Do you want me to lie?
Yes i give you this nugget. America did race on tracks which were actually made for horse racing, so they got there first, but not officially.
Both UK and USA examples given were 'ovals', we waited longer for 'proper' race tracks with hills, cambers, inclines and many corners etc.....
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At least not all the muscle cars in the game are subject to this glitch. A shame the AMC is a bit subject to it, as I rather like the story behind AMC. Ultimately, what it comes down to ultimately, is that the PI system doesn't know how to deal with a car with insane acceleration but a comparatively small top speed. This glitch will happen with any car that has those qualities especially when pairing a strong engine to a transmission with no overdrive/mileage gear, it's just that some of the muscle cars in the game fit that bill perfectly.
Yes indeed, like also tracks in Spain, Canada, UK Scotland etc etc etc....... my only point was that first official track, in England no less, was in fact an Oval. Why did you have to go reeling off USA tracks?
And you forgot to mention the greatest track ever made......Laguna Seca.
Exactly, see they are in the wrong classes, and people using the have an UNFAIR advantage.
Dont even start me on the RWD conversion for Hondas and such.......
love the game hate the glitchers.... why are people so obsessed with winning they want to drive fake glitch cars anyway...?
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Yes indeed, like also tracks in Spain, Canada, UK Scotland etc etc etc....... my only point was that first official track, in England no less, was in fact an Oval. Why did you have to go reeling off USA tracks?
And you forgot to mention the greatest track ever made......Laguna Seca.
Brooklands original layout actually allowed for four different configurations, of which the Oval was the least used:
Source - http://www.etracksonline.co.uk/Europe/United_Kingdom/brooklandso.html
And to set things straight, no one has an issue with what you opinion is in regard to any form of motorsport, what the staff do have an issue with is when it breaks the AUP.
Your tone came across as an attempt to belittle American's and drag racing, as as such runs into problems right around here:
Source - https://www.gtplanet.net/aup/AUP
Hold you own opinion and express it by all means, but if in doing so you feel the need to mock others then action will be taken.
The AUP is something all members are required to agree to when they join and as expected to follow in every post they make.
I've noticed quite a few posts in this very thread that fall foul of the AUP, with poor grammar, nationalistic digs, multi-posting, etc. I would strongly suggest that a re-read of the AUP would not go amiss as following it is not optional.
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Still going on about these cars? wow.
Who? me? first time i have IIRC. Certainly you'll not find any proof ive been banging on about it on thousands of posts dude.
You are the only person on this forum that uses the term "yank tank" and you use it ALL the time.I even left the forum for about 4-5 days came back and you are STILL going on. I cant believe you say you dont go on and on about it. I have yet to come to this forum without you complaining about that car. Here are 3 threads you started talking or complaining about that car. I could dig up much more of your replies but dont need to waste my time with it. For you to say "Certainly you'll not find any proof ive been banging on about it on" is just laughable. I can only imagine your rants online. I bet you get kicked out of a lot of rooms or at least muted a lot. Especially using that term. You really need to remove that from your vocabulary and I would suggest influencing your friends to do the same. Set a positive example for once.
http://www.forzaplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=268
http://www.forzaplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=735
http://www.forzaplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=733
3 examples, 2 from same day...hmmmm.......
oh and:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312048/
affectionate term....
used in motoring media
http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear...ar_of_the_year_volkswagen_passat/viewall.html
american website for car lovers.
http://jalopnik.com/316482/heroic-lemons-yank-tank-1975-buick-century
http://jalopnik.com/yank-tanks/
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So, uh, back to the topic at hand, instead of the history of drag/circuit racing?
What seems to be the cause of the PI being so underrated is that the muscle cars are very speed limited. Some much more than others. My AMC Javelin was an unintended B-class tune that would really exploit this. The speed rating is just 3.0, despite having some 550hp. It also has slicks and basically everything you can throw at it besides a custom trans or a cam (higher revs = higher top speed). It only goes 128mph IIRC, but it gets there like whoa.
I haven't looked at many other muscle cars' speed ratings, but I think you might find that the low speed ratings correspond to the "glitch" cars. I built a B-class C2 Corvette today that runs times even with all my other good B-class cars. It has longer gears, seems it would do around 150. For the Dart and others, I'm curious if you could build one with the stock trans to whatever class, then change it to have the adjustable sport transmission and detune it as necessary back to that class, if it would be running fair times.
What seems to be the cause of the PI being so underrated is that the muscle cars are very speed limited. Some much more than others. My AMC Javelin was an unintended B-class tune that would really exploit this. The speed rating is just 3.0, despite having some 550hp. It also has slicks and basically everything you can throw at it besides a custom trans or a cam (higher revs = higher top speed). It only goes 128mph IIRC, but it gets there like whoa.
I haven't looked at many other muscle cars' speed ratings, but I think you might find that the low speed ratings correspond to the "glitch" cars. I built a B-class C2 Corvette today that runs times even with all my other good B-class cars. It has longer gears, seems it would do around 150. For the Dart and others, I'm curious if you could build one with the stock trans to whatever class, then change it to have the adjustable sport transmission and detune it as necessary back to that class, if it would be running fair times.
Lol. Just like Jeremy Clarkson yeah??!!
Believe me i love cars and bikes, but man theres some cars and bikes out there i loathe........
You are way way off to be fair.
I travelled Australia from bottom to top, try telling that to a Ford or Holden fan!!!! lol.
What I can see from your attitude and knowledge is that you only believe things that you already know about i.e. rear wheel drive swaps in Honda Civics & Integra's exist and just because you didn't know that doesn't mean its nothing but a fantasy in Forza.
If you must know Honda's are thee most modified cars on this planet - FACT. There is probably little that hasn't been converted / tinkered with. The reason is because most Honda manufactured parts are comepletely interchangeable, very smart thing for Honda to do as it saves money during production but also great for tuners as they can buy OEM parts off the shelf and its a direct replacement.
The other thing is that just because someone invents something first does not make them better or more highly regarded (i'm sure by this point in my post you are realising I am talking about your comment on how Europeans invented circuit racing first).
Honda are best known worldwide for being the best in the business at Variable Valve Timing - FACT, but much to most popular belief they did not invent it, oh no does that mean they are inferior in some way? I highly doubt it.
You miss the point.
i'm not saying you cant, im saying that in Forza 4 if you do RWD convert the PI drops!!! so you can get more upgrades!!!! its pants! so RWD converted cars are at a massive advantage.
Ok so theres many reasons why the PI might drop but you havent considered any - the chassis was designed for front wheel drive, so why would making it rear be an improvement?
How about the HP loss at the wheels?
Weight of the car?
Your missing the point again. Read the official forza forums there are glitch cars, and the Honda in the forza GAME are glitched cars in RWD form....not real life, GAME...G A M E.....Theres a MASSIVE difference with real life and G A M E.
ok?....ok....good.
so to re cap.
leaderboards and online is being made a joke by glitch PI cars.....
super bees
darts
javlins
honda civics with RWD
enjoy
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/4895817.aspx
ok?....ok....good.
so to re cap.
leaderboards and online is being made a joke by glitch PI cars.....
super bees
darts
javlins
honda civics with RWD
enjoy
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/4895817.aspx
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If you tested the whole thing yourself, you'll notice a few things:You miss the point.
i'm not saying you cant, im saying that in Forza 4 if you do RWD convert the PI drops!!! so you can get more upgrades!!!! its pants! so RWD converted cars are at a massive advantage.
- The weight increases, thus, the PI drops.
- The car will be faster than it was in its FWD version.
- The difference is nowhere near as big as it is between the Dart/Super Bee and other cars in the respective class.
- The difference in performance isn't down to the swaps, it's due to the fact that RWD cars are, in general, favoured by the PI system across the board.
Oh, and by the way: I didn't miss the point, at least not entirely, given that you mentioned 'fake cars' in your post, which at least RWD Hondas aren't.
So, I have to love my mother's Smart car, or I'm not a true gear head? Really?
Sorry, but now you're spouting some proper BS. I'm with you on the Super Bee and the Dart being glitched, maybe some others. The Hondas, though, are no more glitched than any other decent RWD car in the game. There are, in fact, quite a few cars that I found to be much quicker than any RWD swapped Honda, and they're all native RWD cars.
As I said, I'm with you on the few glitched muscle cars. Otherwise, you should really start to get yourself some information about the topic at hand.
Plus, that link you've posted, is there any meaning to it? I've kept up with that thread for a bit, and it went downhill pretty fast.
Another word of advice: Watch your attitude. Whether you're wrong or right doesn't make a speck of difference if you're acting like a moron.
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I posted a thread about glitched Javelins. I'm betting they're no more at an advantage than other non-Dodge muscle cars in the same class as there wasn't a glut of them at the top end of any leaderboards I made it onto. To be honest, though, beating most people's lap times was ridiculously easy in one.
You got it wrong..again.... i said:
"why are people so obsessed with winning they want to drive fake glitch cars anyway...?"
See never said fake Honda RWD cars did I!!!!! i said "fake glitch cars!!!!!" glitch car is fake !!
and i reported you for calling me a 'moron', why is it ok for you to be rude? cause you post in purple?
Point is people over on the official forum aren't happy about it. Most on here seem to want to dig their heads in the sand about it.
Once we get a leaderboard wipe and a fix i'll eat my aht if we ever see a Dart or Super bee up the top of a leader board, they have NO place there unles in the DARTS case its drag racing.
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Most people on the official forum will also start to whine about basically anything.
Far from it, from what I've seen. To be honest, most people, at least in this thread, got mad about the way you presented the issue. In an uninformed, fame-baiting manner, that is.
More BS. Sorry, no other way to put it. If the PI system was working perfectly fine, every car would be potentially capable to get a number one spot on basically any leaderboard. Drivel like that is why people won't agree with you. That's what's making you look like you're just an uninformed, flame-baiting whiner.
The Dart and Superbee are only there cause they are glitched, do you really believe if it werent for this simple case that the MAJORITY of folks would be using them to post fast times???!!!
If they were all equal (thats not the point of the PI really it isnt...
) people would not use those cars as they really arent that popular...
seriously, relax and grab a cuppa, and think before you post.
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Nobody's arguing that. Not at all. All I'm talking about is capability. You'd better read more carefully, next time.The Dart and Superbee are only there cause they are glitched, do you really believe if it werent for this simple case that the MAJORITY of folks would be using them to post fast times???!!!
Muscle cars not being popular? What are you smoking?If they were all equal (thats not the point of the PI really it isnt...
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