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I've got the Madcatz wheel. I've heard it falls apart, I've heard it's of lesser quality, I've heard it's junk. However I've experienced the fact it's perfectly fine, very nicely designed and of very nice quality.
Thinking Of Getting An XBox and Forza, Need Some Imput
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I got the Madcatz wheel. I REALLY like it. Better then the Logitech sit in lap wheel with feedback even. Its better made and even though it doesn't have feedback the belt tension is good enough that you don't even notice it that much. The only issue with that wheel is that it sometimes loses connection with the XBOX after turn it off to switch to the regular controller.
As for the Forza, now I see what people say about it vs GT5. It is better, it seems in some areas. Such as being able to customize your car's paint and graphics. And I also like how I can buy a tune and then pay for all the parts needed for it. I got the VIP pack, which unlike the other pack, gives you the cars vs needing to still buy them in game. I spent a bunch of time finding graphic packages for my car, blew some money at auction and just been having a pretty good time. I am not that good a driver anyway, so I find that putting the opponents on medium and using a stock tune(less) car gives me a pretty good battle with the top 2 AI cars for most of the race.
As there were some suggestions about Project Gotham Racing, I finally looked at it. With that name, I thought it was some kind of Batman game, and now I see its not. So I ordered PGR4, it was like 4 bucks on Amazon from a third party and I ordered a used copy of Grid, which I have on PS3. I got those so I can use my wheel on more games. I will get NFS Shift and Shift 2 next.
So again, thanks for the input everyone. I admit I almost freaked though when I first started the game. You HAVE to run that first race with the Audi R8 before you get access to the menus and the wheel's paddles have very little travel and felt like a button type input vs something you can use for variable input. What a relief to do that race, set it up for the paddles being brakes and gas and running that next race.
As for the Forza, now I see what people say about it vs GT5. It is better, it seems in some areas. Such as being able to customize your car's paint and graphics. And I also like how I can buy a tune and then pay for all the parts needed for it. I got the VIP pack, which unlike the other pack, gives you the cars vs needing to still buy them in game. I spent a bunch of time finding graphic packages for my car, blew some money at auction and just been having a pretty good time. I am not that good a driver anyway, so I find that putting the opponents on medium and using a stock tune(less) car gives me a pretty good battle with the top 2 AI cars for most of the race.
As there were some suggestions about Project Gotham Racing, I finally looked at it. With that name, I thought it was some kind of Batman game, and now I see its not. So I ordered PGR4, it was like 4 bucks on Amazon from a third party and I ordered a used copy of Grid, which I have on PS3. I got those so I can use my wheel on more games. I will get NFS Shift and Shift 2 next.
So again, thanks for the input everyone. I admit I almost freaked though when I first started the game. You HAVE to run that first race with the Audi R8 before you get access to the menus and the wheel's paddles have very little travel and felt like a button type input vs something you can use for variable input. What a relief to do that race, set it up for the paddles being brakes and gas and running that next race.
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Good to hear it worked out for you, and glad to see someone giving the Madcats wheel a go. It's a great wheel. 👍
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There is a bunch of wheels coming out for Forza 4. There is a wireless u shaped wheel you just hold and turn. The new MadCatz force feedback wheel will be a kinda steep $230. I think they have another new wheel coming too. The rest of the wheels are coming from Fanatec and you can see the article at the forzacentral website.
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- what xbox!
put it this way its a 120$ game if you want online =D
forza 4 i will never play , im not puting an xbox in my home period, peice of **** hardware
but forza 4>gt5 just like gt5>forza 3
in all my honest opinion i twill all end when gt6 is released, what killed gt5 was the standards....
forza 4 i will never play , im not puting an xbox in my home period, peice of **** hardware
but forza 4>gt5 just like gt5>forza 3
in all my honest opinion i twill all end when gt6 is released, what killed gt5 was the standards....
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I'm sensing just a bit of fanboyism.
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... and the damage model
... and the short a-spec career (offline)
... and the sounds
... and the lack of a livery editor
... and the lack of mecanical failures
... and the AI
... and the list goes on...
I will definitly get a Xbox and Forza 4 even if it is when the next gen is here and they drop the prices...
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Just ordered an Xbox and FM3 to play with until my FM4 LE arrives. I love GT5 (cruising nurb in random car = priceless), I love racing games. 
Just gonna need to order a wheel and pedals for PS3/Xbox to replace my DFGT which isn't compatible with Xbox. It'll be a GT2 or a Fanatec setup I guess. 👍
Just gonna need to order a wheel and pedals for PS3/Xbox to replace my DFGT which isn't compatible with Xbox. It'll be a GT2 or a Fanatec setup I guess. 👍
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GT vs FM thread's that way...
I'm in a similar position to the OP - while I've played GT since '98, FM4 appeals more to me than the many mis-steps in GT5 (and the likely long, long wait before the next game), so I'll be getting a system. However, there really is almost no games other than FM4 (and 3) that I'd actually want for the system, so I'm searching around eBay and Craigslist for cheap second-hand systems. I know that the Arcade systems are essentially useless (as I do plan on getting XBL, and doing quite a lot of painting/photomoding), but other than that, I'm not too sure of the differences in generations of the 360. The people at the local game stores don't know anything past "push the newest version", either. Or repeatedly tell me "there's other great games", which I'm sure is true, but just not for me.
Are the updates with the newest system worth the extra outlay? Or should I get one of the slightly older models as this won't serve as my main gaming console?
I'm in a similar position to the OP - while I've played GT since '98, FM4 appeals more to me than the many mis-steps in GT5 (and the likely long, long wait before the next game), so I'll be getting a system. However, there really is almost no games other than FM4 (and 3) that I'd actually want for the system, so I'm searching around eBay and Craigslist for cheap second-hand systems. I know that the Arcade systems are essentially useless (as I do plan on getting XBL, and doing quite a lot of painting/photomoding), but other than that, I'm not too sure of the differences in generations of the 360. The people at the local game stores don't know anything past "push the newest version", either. Or repeatedly tell me "there's other great games", which I'm sure is true, but just not for me.
Are the updates with the newest system worth the extra outlay? Or should I get one of the slightly older models as this won't serve as my main gaming console?
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In my opinion, you don't need to get one the newest models, just not one of the really early ones. The Xbox360 Elite was one of the first consoles that didn't suffer from the frequent RRoD issues, at least not as much, if my memory serves.
So, if you can, get yourself a 2007+ model. I'd recommend the 120GB Elite, it's the one I've been using these past four years without any issues whatsoever (and I'm not exactly treating it well).
So, if you can, get yourself a 2007+ model. I'd recommend the 120GB Elite, it's the one I've been using these past four years without any issues whatsoever (and I'm not exactly treating it well).
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Everyone keep in mind if you are looking for a PC (above $700 i believe) and say you are a student, you get a free 360.
The comment about never buying an xbox because it's "bad hardware" is pretty silly and not really true anymore. I've had mine for quite some time and I've never had a problem or any lock ups. I've only had my PS3 for around 7 months. It froze periodically and the hard drive also died. It also runs a LOT hotter than the xbox. Keep in mind that I also use the xbox a lot more so from where I stand the PS3 has crappy unstable hardware compared to the xbox.
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The revision "Jasper" is okay but I would avoid buying anything older.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware#List_of_revisions
The revision "Jasper" is okay but I would avoid buying anything older.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware#List_of_revisions
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Once you get a taste of XBOX live you will wonder why you have been playing on PSN for years and you will buy all multi format releases on 360!
Xbox Live Gold is superior in every single way possible !
Oh and you will love Forza 3 and the Xbox 360 controller is amazing compared to the DS3 !
Xbox Live Gold is superior in every single way possible !
Oh and you will love Forza 3 and the Xbox 360 controller is amazing compared to the DS3 !
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Not to make this into a LIVE vs PSN debate, I think online play on both are good and similar but in general LIVE is more stable with less issues. Downloads for me have been much faster. But overall if you use Netflix you won't notice much difference (actually PSN version has better audio on many titles). For me it's all the extra stuff they tossed into gold that really shines outside of the better online. Stuff I get for free elsewhere like last.fm and ESPECIALLY the ESPN app. I'm a big footy fan and I don't want to watch soccer matches on espn3 over a laptop/PC but having that quick access to a match (if available) is awesome. Last season I must have seen a good 50 matches in the comfort of my home NOT crowched over a PC. Sure, I can connect a cable or two to my receiver/TV but what for when I have Gold?
You get deals too that you can buy games/packs/dlc cheaper. It's really a lot. Try it out though. You'll usually get a 24-48 hr pass code to try out LIVE. It's really not that expensive and since I use it a ton from cross game chat (I talk with family in europe as I play my games lol) to the espn/last.fm app to Netflix (which I also use on PSN for free btw), list goes on. The more you use live gold the more you notice that PSN has ground to cover. That's not saying PSN sucks, it's quite good.. it's just not as good as LIVE
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Anything the PS3/PSN can do online Xbox Live Gold does it better.
Before i start i'd like to point out the PSN has been playing catch-up since day one. Achievements on 360 became trophies on PSN, Pressing the guide on the 360 brings up an easy access menu for friends/messages infact access to loads of things - PSN then made the PS button do similar. There are a lot more features that were borrowed. I see it as a good thing because I want the PS3 to have features like the 360 to make it more enjoyable as I still like my PS3.
As JJ72 covers it has so many additional features that makes you feel part of a community and make the experience more enjoyable.
I mean being able to chat to up to 8 of my closest friends while we play a new title - discovering things sharing details of what we have found / played is always enjoyable compared to sitting in front of the PS3 alone not being able to talk to anyone while playing unless you are in an online lobby.
The Marketplace makes sense unlike the PS Store even when I search for things I know is on there I dont get the correct results.
The cross game chat is a big plus I mean to me online play is 50% or more of what gaming is about in this day and age. So if i'm on my Xbox and i'm playing COD online not only could my mate who might be playing Fifa or any other game at the time just look at the friends list and decide to join me cos he sees i'm playing - he could invite me to chat to talk ask if im staying on for long if i want to play certain game modes or even ask me to jump onto Forza for a race. - Not sending silly text chat messages that you need to stop playing to do.
Another advantage is that Xbox Live is moderated (maybe not to the greatest of standards) but hell of a lot better than what PSN is. Cheaters who are caught get banned.
You know when your playing online you are playing amongst people who genuinely want to play properly (ok maybe not 100% of the time) but you are playing amongst other paying customers. PSN offering online gaming free is a disadvantage to me rather than an advantage.
While I will agree with your point that 360 controller vs DS3 is preference - I will never understand it. It doesnt have proper triggers and i find them uncomfy to use and the anologue stick is way better where the DS3's d-pad is.
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Interesting.
But someone like me who plays mainly solo or with 1-2 friends only, would it still be worth it? I mean, I dont want to be part of a "community", and I could care less to "chat" while I am playing a game with someone who is playing a different one. I am not a big online social person, and like my friends list small and whatnot.
I do agree about the PSN store, it is very convoluted.
Not sure what you mean by PSN being free a disadvantage.? See I come from PC gaming and chat, forums, friends, and multiplayer is free. (Ventrilo, clan/guild message boards, Steam, Xfire and various other social tools for free). For the Xbox you have pay for them, which I find a good money maker for MS, but kinda odd for the end user.
I am going to try it out either way when I get my Fanatec wheel in, since I cant stand using the MS wheel. Just not sure if I am willing to pay for the Gold.
Thanks for the input everyone.
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Only way is if you give it a go. Many new games (mostly exclusives to the 360) still have a 48hr live gold pass code. Don't let it go to waste!!! Legitamitely try and use as much of LIVE Gold as you can during that 48hr free period. Check out the online in games you might have, check out the cross game function with friends, the stores, and the other features like last.fm, espn, etc etc. If you really like it then shop for a 12month (sometimes you can find a kit which is 13months + the controller keyboard and headset, sometimes a free XBLA game or two). That's the only way you'll know if it's worth it to you. And if it's not, then at least you gave it a shot. To me I use it a ton and personally $60 (which you can get cheaper) per year isn't much at all.
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Also when it comes to Live Gold, you can do what I did for Forza 3. On ebay you can find people selling lots of 48 hour codes. I bought a lot of 15 for like $2. If you play mostly on the weekend this works out very well. Play all of your offline races during the week and pop in one of those codes either Friday night or Saturday morning and your good for the weekend. Those codes lasted me about 4 months. That way your not paying for the days your not using it.
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Also when it comes to Live Gold, you can do what I did for Forza 3. On ebay you can find people selling lots of 48 hour codes. I bought a lot of 15 for like $2. If you play mostly on the weekend this works out very well. Play all of your offline races during the week and pop in one of those codes either Friday night or Saturday morning and your good for the weekend. Those codes lasted me about 4 months. That way your not paying for the days your not using it.
LOL that reminds me of how my wife bargain shops. Smart man, very smart.
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So, as T12 and Luminis know... I now have a 360. Specifically, when the nearby store posted this sort of deal, I figured I'm killing two birds with one stone (even though I wouldn't mind the UC edition).
Anywho, as I'm just setting it up, and can't seem to find a solid answer online - I've no wireless adapter yet (and can't do a direct plug-in), so if I want to start playing with an offline account now, can I keep the name of it when I "upgrade" it with my apparent 1-month trial of Gold? Or does the trial only apply to a completely new profile? Just curious so I know if I'm wasting my progress or not
Anywho, as I'm just setting it up, and can't seem to find a solid answer online - I've no wireless adapter yet (and can't do a direct plug-in), so if I want to start playing with an offline account now, can I keep the name of it when I "upgrade" it with my apparent 1-month trial of Gold? Or does the trial only apply to a completely new profile? Just curious so I know if I'm wasting my progress or not
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Anywho, as I'm just setting it up, and can't seem to find a solid answer online - I've no wireless adapter yet (and can't do a direct plug-in), so if I want to start playing with an offline account now, can I keep the name of it when I "upgrade" it with my apparent 1-month trial of Gold? Or does the trial only apply to a completely new profile? Just curious so I know if I'm wasting my progress or not
Not sure what you are asking exactly, but the 1 month trial doesn't start until you select the "begin trial" after signing up for XBL.
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