Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals
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cjr3559
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- cjr3559
Got mine set up today. First impressions are very positive. I’m using the default brake setup out of the box and these are vastly superior to my T3PAs with the conical mod which never felt right in my opinion. The brake on the T-LCM feels like a brake now. A lot less going from slight input to complete lock up.
The gas feels slightly heavier, and the clutch has a little more spring action.
Personally I feel the red springs may be too stiff for my liking, but we’ll see.
The gas feels slightly heavier, and the clutch has a little more spring action.
Personally I feel the red springs may be too stiff for my liking, but we’ll see.
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- JeffKill77
- JeffKill
I tried a bunch of different configurations with the springs and settled on red on the bottom and grey on the top. Then turned the brake force up to 85 through the calibration software and it's the perfect setup for me. I'm continuing to beat a lot of my old DR2 times.
Just ordered one. Not sure if it's needed, cause I really have no complaints regarding the feel of the brake pedal. But for that price I'll give it a try.
- 157
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- jamman39
I’ve got mine and I’m still playing around to find the right settings.
Out of the box I’m struggling to match my old lap times but I do feel like the braking is a quite a bit more realistic, so I imagine once I break some bad habits the lap times will come down.
I was wondering if anyone can explain what preloading the brake is? And why or why not to do it. Thanks
Out of the box I’m struggling to match my old lap times but I do feel like the braking is a quite a bit more realistic, so I imagine once I break some bad habits the lap times will come down.
I was wondering if anyone can explain what preloading the brake is? And why or why not to do it. Thanks
- 21
- Corona, CA
I got a set yesterday. Swapped red bottom kept grey top and used 3 washers to increase pre-load. Did the calibration with braking set to 68. Went to boot up GT Sport and am getting no brake input. The throttle and clutch work but it takes a sharp slam on the brake to register anything - way beyond the 68 threshold set in calibration.
Haven't yet tried Dirt VR or PCars 2.
Anyone else come across this on GT Sport?
Haven't yet tried Dirt VR or PCars 2.
Anyone else come across this on GT Sport?
- 408
- Vancouver
- NosOsH
Anyone in Canada have a lead on where to get a set of these in Canada? Amazon won't ship' over the border, cant seem to find anywhere that is selling them.
Its very hard to find alot of thrustmaster products here in all honesty, cant find anywhere that sells the T-GT here either without craaazzzzyyy mark ups...
Its very hard to find alot of thrustmaster products here in all honesty, cant find anywhere that sells the T-GT here either without craaazzzzyyy mark ups...
- 1,590
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- shoenboggie
You can check with this template: http://ts.thrustmaster.com/download/accessories/Manuals/T_LCM/T-LCM_Pedals_Cockpit_Setup.pdf
FPV MIC
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I saw this issue with the clutch spring popping out in TheKei25's stream yesterday.
This is timestamped to when he first had the issue (Language Warning):
His explanation :
It's easy to fix and I don't yet know how common this issue is but I think I might wait for Version 2 of these pedals (unless it turns out to be an uncommon issue).
This is timestamped to when he first had the issue (Language Warning):
His explanation :
It's easy to fix and I don't yet know how common this issue is but I think I might wait for Version 2 of these pedals (unless it turns out to be an uncommon issue).
cjr3559
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My clutch spring seems ok today.
I did mess around with brake today though. I changed out the default black/grey springs for red/black and the resistance is much better. That’s an increase from F35 to F50 strength. Also added a couple washers to make it feel more linear. Much better as the default was a bit too mushy for my liking.
I did mess around with brake today though. I changed out the default black/grey springs for red/black and the resistance is much better. That’s an increase from F35 to F50 strength. Also added a couple washers to make it feel more linear. Much better as the default was a bit too mushy for my liking.
- 5
- United Kingdom
Thought I'd chime in with my thoughts having received these pedals a couple of days ago. Initial thoughts on the build quality is decent for the money. I had to drill my pedal plate on my play seat revolution which wasn't much of an issue. I previously used T3PA and standard t300rs pedals with brake mods. I modified my pedal plate a while back taking all the flex out of it however in doing so reduced the adjustability in respect of angle which caused my first issue with these pedals in that I can't recline the angle to where I would like it however by changing the orientation of the spacers I managed to recline the angle of the pedal faces to an acceptable level however it's not optimal as my heel is leaving the pedal base on heavy applications.. I intend on fabricating another mod for the pedal plate once I'm back at work.
This is the first set of pedals I've used with a load cell and admit I'm having some difficulty adjusting. I have tried a variation of springs and brake force calibrations and still can't seem to settle on what I think should be right. I'll try explain further...
I primarily play GT sport using ABS on default as do most who play this title! In mid speed/high speed corners I normally try to brake at 90-80 percent pressure and then trail brake as Im turning in toward the apex which never seemed a problem using POT based pedals.
Now with these T LCM's I'm finding it difficult to modulate/reduce force around 90-70% force consistently. I've settled on the red and black spring pared with the spacers to take the preload out of the equation, it takes a decent amount of pushing power to reach 100 to 90% force and the very slightest of reduction in force to trail down through to 80 then 70 % etc. This is where I find myself scratching my head.
In my mind I should persist in trying to adapt to this as this is what load cells are all about - building muscle memory to acquaint how much force I should be applying at any one time to achieve the result I'm after, not recalling on where I positioned my pedal in respect of travel using POT pedals. I've reverted to a lighter spring and a retune of the pedal force on the cal software a couple of times however when I get back on the sim using say the black and grey spring the pedal is real light again and may as well be a pot based pedal as the level of effort using this config is minimal and I find myself leaning on positional and not pressure based memory.
I have beat my quali time on this weeks daily B race (GT3 at dragon trail seaside 1:37.7xx) however my consistency has dropped quite a bit averaging low 1:38.2xx. Watching back Kie's stream of his first day using these pedals on GT sport I see he has had similar issues. It maybe to early for me to say but if your considering these pedals and they will be your first set of load cells prepare for a bit of frustration!
I like the idea of having a heavy pedal at the bottom end, I just feel the fidelity/curve is too sensitive at the bottom of the travel, honestly the reduction in pressure to move smoothly down from 90 though to to 50% is so minimal its hard to achieve consistently. In longer braking zones it isn't so bad but in short zones say coming into the big banky boy at Lago maggiore its quite hard when using the heavier springs. As I've mentioned before it's easy to get around this by using the lighter springs but that just seems to defeat the object of the load cells. I think some middle ground would be to use two of the black springs but TM only provide one so go figure. There is the possibility that my accuracy is being hindered by my heel floating when I'm heavy on the brakes but I won't be able to stop this until I'm able to fabricate another mod for my pedal plate.
Looking forward to hearing others thoughts on these pedals especially when used on GT sport. ✌️
This is the first set of pedals I've used with a load cell and admit I'm having some difficulty adjusting. I have tried a variation of springs and brake force calibrations and still can't seem to settle on what I think should be right. I'll try explain further...
I primarily play GT sport using ABS on default as do most who play this title! In mid speed/high speed corners I normally try to brake at 90-80 percent pressure and then trail brake as Im turning in toward the apex which never seemed a problem using POT based pedals.
Now with these T LCM's I'm finding it difficult to modulate/reduce force around 90-70% force consistently. I've settled on the red and black spring pared with the spacers to take the preload out of the equation, it takes a decent amount of pushing power to reach 100 to 90% force and the very slightest of reduction in force to trail down through to 80 then 70 % etc. This is where I find myself scratching my head.
In my mind I should persist in trying to adapt to this as this is what load cells are all about - building muscle memory to acquaint how much force I should be applying at any one time to achieve the result I'm after, not recalling on where I positioned my pedal in respect of travel using POT pedals. I've reverted to a lighter spring and a retune of the pedal force on the cal software a couple of times however when I get back on the sim using say the black and grey spring the pedal is real light again and may as well be a pot based pedal as the level of effort using this config is minimal and I find myself leaning on positional and not pressure based memory.
I have beat my quali time on this weeks daily B race (GT3 at dragon trail seaside 1:37.7xx) however my consistency has dropped quite a bit averaging low 1:38.2xx. Watching back Kie's stream of his first day using these pedals on GT sport I see he has had similar issues. It maybe to early for me to say but if your considering these pedals and they will be your first set of load cells prepare for a bit of frustration!
I like the idea of having a heavy pedal at the bottom end, I just feel the fidelity/curve is too sensitive at the bottom of the travel, honestly the reduction in pressure to move smoothly down from 90 though to to 50% is so minimal its hard to achieve consistently. In longer braking zones it isn't so bad but in short zones say coming into the big banky boy at Lago maggiore its quite hard when using the heavier springs. As I've mentioned before it's easy to get around this by using the lighter springs but that just seems to defeat the object of the load cells. I think some middle ground would be to use two of the black springs but TM only provide one so go figure. There is the possibility that my accuracy is being hindered by my heel floating when I'm heavy on the brakes but I won't be able to stop this until I'm able to fabricate another mod for my pedal plate.
Looking forward to hearing others thoughts on these pedals especially when used on GT sport. ✌️
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- jamman39
@Chrispug11 I’m having a longer than expected adjustment curve as well. I expect your right about your pedal positioning being uncomfortable being the cause of your problem. Until it feels right you won’t be at your best.
My experience so far: After a couple weeks with the pedals, I can’t say for sure if my lap times are quicker or not. I’m definitely having more fun on an average lap and I’m getting really consistent times now.
My main problem pops up about every 5-10 laps, I’ll forget for a moment that I have a load cell and lazily press my foot down when I need to be applying heavy pressure and 2 seconds later I’m in a sand trap
My experience so far: After a couple weeks with the pedals, I can’t say for sure if my lap times are quicker or not. I’m definitely having more fun on an average lap and I’m getting really consistent times now.
My main problem pops up about every 5-10 laps, I’ll forget for a moment that I have a load cell and lazily press my foot down when I need to be applying heavy pressure and 2 seconds later I’m in a sand trap
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- United Kingdom
Sounds like you’ve about mastered them if it’s only the odd mistake your making now.
Be cool to hear what sim titles you mainly race on, the spring configuration you’ve settled on and the brake force you’ve set up on the calibration software.
I found a bit more consistency yesterday but I have to concentrate hard every corner so not sure how I’m going to fare in a race when ideally I need to have it dialled and be able to lap without all my attention on braking.
Im wondering if the bushings people use with the CSL elite pedals could be made to fit these pedals, I’d like to have a bit more of a play around with the resistance of the pedal, pedal travel and calibration to see if I can find a sweet spot for where I feel I can modulate intuitively.
Be cool to hear what sim titles you mainly race on, the spring configuration you’ve settled on and the brake force you’ve set up on the calibration software.
I found a bit more consistency yesterday but I have to concentrate hard every corner so not sure how I’m going to fare in a race when ideally I need to have it dialled and be able to lap without all my attention on braking.
Im wondering if the bushings people use with the CSL elite pedals could be made to fit these pedals, I’d like to have a bit more of a play around with the resistance of the pedal, pedal travel and calibration to see if I can find a sweet spot for where I feel I can modulate intuitively.
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- United States
- jamman39
I don’t think I’ve mastered anything about sim racing yet haha, but I’d be happy to post my settings.
Apart from minor dead zone adjustments the biggest thing change I made was lowering brake force in the calibration app. I realized that I was not consistently getting 100% braking power when brake force was at 70%. Especially towards the end of a session when my ankle was getting sore I would hit the brake with what I thought was full pressure and only get about 85% brake power.
Apart from minor dead zone adjustments the biggest thing change I made was lowering brake force in the calibration app. I realized that I was not consistently getting 100% braking power when brake force was at 70%. Especially towards the end of a session when my ankle was getting sore I would hit the brake with what I thought was full pressure and only get about 85% brake power.
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- Germany
- RaceFace85
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Surprisingly I adapted very fast to the load cells. I read everywhere that people use brake force around to 70%. I felt it way more comfortable to use the lowest Force. I have 100% brake output at 15% brake force. I find it easier to trail brake this way, but I still have to adjust it on different combos. Does anyone else use that less brake force?
I use the red spring at the bottom and the black one one the top due to have a short pedal travel to reach the 100% brake output.
I use the red spring at the bottom and the black one one the top due to have a short pedal travel to reach the 100% brake output.
- 16
- England
First post so be gentle.
Getting mine delivered on Tuesday (UK), ordered direct from TM website around 2 weeks ago. Really looking forward to setting them up and having a play. I’m coming from T3PAs with conical mod so hope I can feel the difference. Mainly play GTS (hurry up ACC on PS4) and use T300. All bolted on a Playseat Challenge so hopefully the thing won’t lift under heavy breaking.
Getting mine delivered on Tuesday (UK), ordered direct from TM website around 2 weeks ago. Really looking forward to setting them up and having a play. I’m coming from T3PAs with conical mod so hope I can feel the difference. Mainly play GTS (hurry up ACC on PS4) and use T300. All bolted on a Playseat Challenge so hopefully the thing won’t lift under heavy breaking.
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