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Took me about a dozen laps, but nailed gold, at 2.04% and a little under 8k placing. Fun little TT actually!

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Livery based on a concept by Livery Magic on Instagram, with a few adjustments to better reflect me.
 
Did some trialing yesterday. Got into gold at watkins, wanted to go below 1:15 but my brake pedal felt like it wasn't working like it supposed to. Same thing when I tried red bull spaceship at GV. Checked, and everything is fine so maybe it is just a matter of not playing gt for couple of days.
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I won’t go in to how many miles I did just to improve by one tenth, this one blows. That’s probably it for me, and the Mx5 and its bizarre handling can do one too 👎🏼

Ah good I was that fed up I didn’t screenshot my time. Well, it was slightly faster than my previous fastest lap, by around one tenth…

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This wasn’t during a lap, this is staged, this was necessary. The cones are my proverbial punching bag. Good riddance 👊🏽
 
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Another 2/10s in a quick unexpected session yesterday

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There are another 3 tenths just by putting a lap togheter. Improving from there is all another story.

Allow me to occupy some more space here. I don't usually put in lap pictures, but cannot avoid this tribute to Gabriele "Cinghio" Tarquini, one of my favorite drivers back in the days, driving amd winning with this Italian beauty around Europe

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Why do you put competitive in quotation marks? Are you saying it's artificial and therefore meaningless?
I think he meant that it's relative to wider margins on a longer lap with faster or trickier cars to drive.

Gr4 cars are stable/predictable and in relative terms slow. This means lots of people are able to drive them pretty quick so the times converge quickly and it becomes about 1/100s or 1/1000s

If this was upscaled to a faster car and more challenging circuit the spread in times naturally would be a lot more separating the good from the great by bigger margins.

At least that's how I interpreted it 🤷‍♂️
Yeah, newmedia_dev already answered with what I mean.

Anyway, did the Mazda Roadster the other evening. Not quite my idea of fun or pleasure, this TT. The kinda TT you do in about an hour and then leave. More power to you if you like it, but surely wasn’t my thing.

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... and yeah, just like @Dan_Tes above, struggling a lot at Grand Valley in the X2019. I think it was okay at Road Atlanta (even if the repeat was absolute ass) but I don’t see how it belongs at Grand Valley. Don’t think it works very well at all. À propos the earlier conversation, this is an example of a very competitive TT though. The absolute masters (aliens in the true sense of the word) of the game going all in with a very difficult car, at this track. High skill ceiling here.

I’ll admit I’m already just north of 1,000 kms in on this TT, sitting at a 1’26.675 currently. Got best S1 and S2 splits of 0'27.297 / 0'55.940 which I really should’ve carried home to a much better time, but unfortunately I drove like an absolute gorilla through the final sector and botched that lap (with botched, I mean, that was the one that ended up being 1’26.675).

That was Monday night, yesterday I struggled to even match mentioned S1&2 splits. But it’s weird, it feels like I’m off somehow, you know like there’s something that’s clicking for everyone else but somehow not for you. Maybe that doesn’t make sense or maybe some people here have felt that way in some TT’s. I know the Mercedes-Benz 190E at Dragon Trail Gardens was like that for me as well, never really clicked. With that said, I can’t really grasp what I’m doing wrong though and there are people at somewhat equal times and even quicker times that I normally should be able to beat (no disrespect, just keeping history and statistics in mind). Hmm, bit mind-boggling. Final attempt later today...
 
Yeah, newmedia_dev already answered with what I mean.

Anyway, did the Mazda Roadster the other evening. Not quite my idea of fun or pleasure, this TT. The kinda TT you do in about an hour and then leave. More power to you if you like it, but surely wasn’t my thing.

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... and yeah, just like @Dan_Tes above, struggling a lot at Grand Valley in the X2019. I think it was okay at Road Atlanta (even if the repeat was absolute ass) but I don’t see how it belongs at Grand Valley. Don’t think it works very well at all. À propos the earlier conversation, this is an example of a very competitive TT though. The absolute masters (aliens in the true sense of the word) of the game going all in with a very difficult car, at this track. High skill ceiling here.

I’ll admit I’m already just north of 1,000 kms in on this TT, sitting at a 1’26.675 currently. Got best S1 and S2 splits of 0'27.297 / 0'55.940 which I really should’ve carried home to a much better time, but unfortunately I drove like an absolute gorilla through the final sector and botched that lap (with botched, I mean, that was the one that ended up being 1’26.675).

That was Monday night, yesterday I struggled to even match mentioned S1&2 splits. But it’s weird, it feels like I’m off somehow, you know like there’s something that’s clicking for everyone else but somehow not for you. Maybe that doesn’t make sense or maybe some people here have felt that way in some TT’s. I know the Mercedes-Benz 190E at Dragon Trail Gardens was like that for me as well, never really clicked. With that said, I can’t really grasp what I’m doing wrong though and there are people at somewhat equal times and even quicker times that I normally should be able to beat (no disrespect, just keeping history and statistics in mind). Hmm, bit mind-boggling. Final attempt later today...

Agreed. Watching the top visible replays is a work of art, the car control these guys have is insane. It’s one of the only trials where I feel like I’m losing time EVERYWHERE, literally not one corner where I feel I’m matching the pace of the top drivers except maybe the first corner.

This car is very sensitive to exact steering inputs so on a personal level that’s probably where I’m going wrong, the window for correct steering angle is tiny and without any force feedback to tell me where that is I’m just guessing each corner, compare that to Road Atlanta using the pre-update physics and the steering had tons of feedback so I knew exactly where I was under steering. I found that trial an absolute dream, high downforce seems to be my strongest area so even more frustrating that I’m struggling so much. I suspect messing around with wheel settings could solve some of that but I’m not really up for messing with what works for 95% of trials.

Also agreed on this track being completely unsuitable for this car.

And yet it kinda makes me want to do it again. Am I getting Stockholm syndrome, am I going to be imprisoned by this evil and then fall in love with it!??? SEND HELP

EDIT: this was my final time at Road Atlanta I think and I felt I could go faster… amazing how a small update can completely change a car.

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Yeah, newmedia_dev already answered with what I mean.

Anyway, did the Mazda Roadster the other evening. Not quite my idea of fun or pleasure, this TT. The kinda TT you do in about an hour and then leave.
More like three minutes, aka three laps, once safely in gold it's bye Felicia!

With that said, I can’t really grasp what I’m doing wrong though and there are people at somewhat equal times and even quicker times that I normally should be able to beat (no disrespect, just keeping history and statistics in mind). Hmm, bit mind-boggling. Final attempt later today...
No offense taken. :D

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You'll get that magic lap in.
 
But it’s weird, it feels like I’m off somehow, you know like there’s something that’s clicking for everyone else but somehow not for you. Maybe that doesn’t make sense or maybe some people here have felt that way in some TT’s. I know the Mercedes-Benz 190E at Dragon Trail Gardens was like that for me as well, never really clicked.
Yup, I know the feeling all too well. In theory, you are doing everything right, but the time just isn't there, other guys are finding tenths and you are struggling to even match your previous best.

I can use the Vette at the DT as an example, I did a 1:54.2 on the first night of the TT, just driving around and testing some lines and gears, not really pushing too hard, and I thought to myself, nice, 53s are easily doable, I'll do it tomorrow and be done with it. 13 days later, I found myself still on 1:54.2, couldn't get near my time for the life of me, and I literally didn't finish 5 proper laps in the meantime, just errors everywhere, to the point that I start to hate the track, the physics, the car... Following some top ghosts, you do everything as you should, and the ghost just drives away on every single corner exit. Frustrating. But then on the last night, I just said to myself, OK, you can do this, gave it another ~200km and nailed it.

On the other hand - the Mazda TT, I hate the way the car handles and feels from the bottom of my heart, I didn't drive this car in real life, but I can bet my left arm that it doesn't handle this way, not even close. I'm currently at 1:01.185 I think, P333 in the world or something, which is quite far from my usual top 50, top 100, whatever, and I just don't have the desire to even try it, it doesn't click, it's a struggle as soon as I sit in it, and I will not try again for sure, just don't want to torture myself, I'm not improving my driving skills, I'm trying to work around the game flaws. Nope.

But the Alfa TT is a completely different story - I belive quite realistic handling for such a car, predictable, you know what you have to do and it's just a matter of doing all the right things properly in one lap - and you can show your skill, be that achieving silver, gold, top 500, top 100, top 10, whatever.
 
I won’t go in to how many miles I did just to improve by one tenth, this one blows. That’s probably it for me, and the Mx5 and its bizarre handling can do one too 👎🏼

Ah good I was that fed up I didn’t screenshot my time. Well, it was slightly faster than my previous fastest lap, by around one tenth…

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This wasn’t during a lap, this is staged, this was necessary. The cones are my proverbial punching bag. Good riddance 👊🏽
Jaaadiijaaa, Mazda...physics.....blah blah
You were fast mate.....but ......
just not fast enough moehaha
(Sorry had to do this) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Probably the one and only time this is happening 🙈🤣🤣
 
Jeez, I may have to run this combo again to protect my gtplanet no.1 time😁
Yeah you should have done this. 🤭

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S1 was great and a new personal best.
Unfortunately turned in a moment to late at the beginning of S2 and had the wrong line. 🥲
S3 was very good again, not far away from my optimals.
So looks like my first GT7 podium still has to wait. 🥺
 
Yup, I know the feeling all too well. In theory, you are doing everything right, but the time just isn't there, other guys are finding tenths and you are struggling to even match your previous best.
I thought I was the only one !!! 🤣🤣
Because as you say, many improve their time in the last few days. But frankly I can't get close to my best time 1 or 2 days before !!!! 🤔🤔
 
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