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@Dan_Tes , @crome ,@half_sourly ,
I appreciate your kind winds and insights.
It is true that it does not take as large an effort as it once did to accomplish "Gold", indeed sometimes almost no effort at all.
Imposter syndrome is probably as close to an accurate description of how I feel as a non-mental health professional could get.

I imagine that there are multiple things that play into my perceptions concerning results.

The 80/20 rule, wherein you can achieve the 80th percentile at something with only a 20% effort, but the last 20% requires 80% of the effort.

The insane times that the very best accomplish. Although the average results of my last 10 time trials are better than 99.6% of those who posted a time, the time differential is still 1.65% off of the number 1 times. That is not even half way between "achieving gold" and the top. I am aware that this is why they are called 'aliens', but my mindset has always been that there is no sense in doing anything with the intention not to do your very best.

The realization that my advancing age(68) is closing the window rapidly on any attempt to get better.

Again, thank you to everyone who has pushed, dragged, kicked, badgered and humiliated me into this much progress.:D
And thanks to those who have encouraged, offered tips/insights and been generally supportive.:)

Regards,
Ken
 
@Dan_Tes , @crome ,@half_sourly ,
I appreciate your kind winds and insights.
It is true that it does not take as large an effort as it once did to accomplish "Gold", indeed sometimes almost no effort at all.
Imposter syndrome is probably as close to an accurate description of how I feel as a non-mental health professional could get.

I imagine that there are multiple things that play into my perceptions concerning results.

The 80/20 rule, wherein you can achieve the 80th percentile at something with only a 20% effort, but the last 20% requires 80% of the effort.

The insane times that the very best accomplish. Although the average results of my last 10 time trials are better than 99.6% of those who posted a time, the time differential is still 1.65% off of the number 1 times. That is not even half way between "achieving gold" and the top. I am aware that this is why they are called 'aliens', but my mindset has always been that there is no sense in doing anything with the intention not to do your very best.

The realization that my advancing age(68) is closing the window rapidly on any attempt to get better.

Again, thank you to everyone who has pushed, dragged, kicked, badgered and humiliated me into this much progress.:D
And thanks to those who have encouraged, offered tips/insights and been generally supportive.:)

Regards,
Ken
You are fast dude. This place really skews the chart!
 
Here are some statistics for TT113 at Autopolis International Racing Course in the Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe '06. L-Shooter_RB26 made his usual late lunge to the top. It remained a middle of the road TT though in difficulty, although driven by non-gold metrics rather than gold, which was tougher than usual to get.

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The attached Excel file has this scoreboard as well as results for all TTs for everyone on the scoreboard.
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Drivers with gold in all TTs
The number of drivers with gold in all TTs remained at 57.

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Here are some statistics for TT114 at 24 Heures du Mans Racing Circuit in Gr.1, a surprisingly tough one, especially given the results of the previous Gr.1 event here (where any Gr.1 could be used). Clearly the older Group C cars are more of a handful.

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The attached Excel file has this scoreboard as well as results for all TTs for everyone on the scoreboard.

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Notice how the gold 'peak' is after the line - people caught out by Iceman's late charge.
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Car​
Average of drivers_time​
Count of car​
Nissan R92CP '92
03:38.019​
61,493​
Mazda 787B '91
03:39.796​
29,050​
Jaguar XJR-9 '88
03:41.683​
9,721​
Porsche 962 C '88
03:42.143​
12,792​
Sauber Mercedes C9 '89
03:42.524​
8,854​
Grand Total
03:39.494​
121,910​

Drivers with gold in all TTs
The number of drivers with gold in all TTs remained at 57.

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Here are some statistics for TT114 at 24 Heures du Mans Racing Circuit in Gr.1, a surprisingly tough one, especially given the results of the previous Gr.1 event here (where any Gr.1 could be used). Clearly the older Group C cars are more of a handful.

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The attached Excel file has this scoreboard as well as results for all TTs for everyone on the scoreboard.

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Notice how the gold 'peak' is after the line - people caught out by Iceman's late charge.
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Car​
Average of drivers_time​
Count of car​
Nissan R92CP '92
03:38.019​
61,493​
Mazda 787B '91
03:39.796​
29,050​
Jaguar XJR-9 '88
03:41.683​
9,721​
Porsche 962 C '88
03:42.143​
12,792​
Sauber Mercedes C9 '89
03:42.524​
8,854​
Grand Total
03:39.494​
121,910​

Drivers with gold in all TTs
The number of drivers with gold in all TTs remained at 57.

Congrats to all brave contestants and special greetings to those with am medal! Well done!
 
I had to do a personal best placing to get gold in this TT, I don't discard that in Catalunya Rally Cross I will do another personal best placement, but getting only silver haha.
 
Ran all 4, I own, of the 5 cars for TT114 but I just could not flog that Datsun through the turns well enough to make that 12MPH straight line advantage over the Porsche pay off.

Thank @half_sourly for keeping up with all this data. I have some small skill with Excel and Google sheets and yours is a bonfire to my candle flame.
 
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Can I get added to this? Should have done this when I started, that Le Mans effort especially 😅

Think this is the link:

Playing on controller for now.
Of course. Here are your personal results to date. I will add you into the scoreboards from next week.
 

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Here are some statistics for TT115 at Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya Rallycross Layout in the Toyota GR Yaris RZ "High performance" '20. It was the second most difficult TT to date on my difficulty-o-meter behind only the tuned Honda NSX Type R '02 at Nürburgring Nordschleife in TT14.

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The attached Excel file has this scoreboard as well as results for all TTs for everyone on the scoreboard.
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Drivers with gold in all TTs
The number of drivers with gold in all TTs dropped from 57 to 54.

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Here are some statistics for TT115 at Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya Rallycross Layout in the Toyota GR Yaris RZ "High performance" '20. It was the second most difficult TT to date on my difficulty-o-meter behind only the tuned Honda NSX Type R '02 at Nürburgring Nordschleife in TT14.

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The attached Excel file has this scoreboard as well as results for all TTs for everyone on the scoreboard.
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Drivers with gold in all TTs
The number of drivers with gold in all TTs dropped from 57 to 54.

Am I "slow" in the head this morning (may well be) but how was this second to the Nordschleife NSX?
 
Am I "slow" in the head this morning (may well be) but how was this second to the Nordschleife NSX?
It is just an imperfect guesstimate based on the below. Don't take it too seriously. The factors tipping it into TT14 being worst were fewer people getting any medal at all, fewer people getting bronze and a bigger gap from 1 to 100.

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Drivers with gold in all TTs
The number of drivers with gold in all TTs dropped from 57 to 54
If you don't mind me asking, what happened to the standard TTs list?

TTs 23 (Olympics - deep forest ) and 53 (Michelin TT challenge- road atlanta) are special TTs that were only open to select countries.
 
If you don't mind me asking, what happened to the standard TTs list?

TTs 23 (Olympics - deep forest ) and 53 (Michelin TT challenge- road atlanta) are special TTs that were only open to select countries.
I have done away with the idea of special TTs other than where they are explicitly regional, such as the recent European one, and have combined all the TTs which are open to most of the world.
 
I have done away with the idea of special TTs other than where they are explicitly regional, such as the recent European one, and have combined all the TTs which are open to most of the world.
Would you please reconsider going back to standard TTs?
Open to 70 countries is far from being most of the world. - Russia is a big omission

participating countries:

Austria, Australia, Bahrain, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, India (excl. Nagaland), Israel, Lebanon, Luxembourg, Kuwait, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, South Africa, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates (UAE), United Kingdom, United States of America, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Peru, Panama, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador, Paraguay, Honduras, Uruguay, Colombia, Nicaragua, Japan, Hong Kong (also known as Hong Kong, China), Taiwan (also known as Chinese Taipei), Singapore, Malaysia, Korea, Indonesia, Thailand, China
 
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Would you please reconsider going back to standard TTs?
Open to 70 countries is far from being rest of the world. - Russia is a big omission

participating countries:

Austria, Australia, Bahrain, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, India (excl. Nagaland), Israel, Lebanon, Luxembourg, Kuwait, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, South Africa, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates (UAE), United Kingdom, United States of America, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Peru, Panama, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador, Paraguay, Honduras, Uruguay, Colombia, Nicaragua, Japan, Hong Kong (also known as Hong Kong, China), Taiwan (also known as Chinese Taipei), Singapore, Malaysia, Korea, Indonesia, Thailand, China
The competition being restricted to certian nations is not the same thing as the time trial itself being restricted.
 
@Famine I get that. It's just a little bit exclusionary that's all. It's not a nice feeling seeing a statement that says 'this many people have gotten gold in all TT's' when not all TTs were available to everyone. @half_sourly used to present a standard TTs list and am hoping he would revert back. If not, no hard feelings
 
@Famine I get that. It's just a little bit exclusionary that's all. It's not a nice feeling seeing a statement that says 'this many people have gotten gold in all TT's' when not all TTs were available to everyone. @half_sourly used to present a standard TTs list and am hoping he would revert back. If not, no hard feelings
I'm not aware of the time trial itself being unavailable to people outside of those countries, just eligibility for further stages. You could drive it and get gold (and 2m credits) but not be eligible for the Olympics Esports Series final.
 
I'm not aware of the time trial itself being unavailable to people outside of those countries, just eligibility for further stages. You could drive it and get gold (and 2m credits) but not be eligible for the Olympics Esports Series final.
No, my country Cyprus was not eligible to enter. Not even allowed to try..and gold prize was 5 million. the absurdity of it being an Olympic event and excluding some countries really rubbed salt into the wound
 
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I'm not aware of the time trial itself being unavailable to people outside of those countries, just eligibility for further stages. You could drive it and get gold (and 2m credits) but not be eligible for the Olympics Esports Series final.
There were some time trials that did only appear in game if your account was in that specific country located. If I remember correctly was it a Porsche event for the USA and a McLaren for UK only. Since then I have a second all-american account... 🙄
 
You could drive it and get gold (and 2m credits) but not be eligible for the Olympics Esports Series final.
I remember being able to click on the event in the time trial section but it would take me to a registration screen and from where I could not progress. I was pulling my hair out :lol:.

Edit: they've done away with such silliness thank goodness
 
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Would you please reconsider going back to standard TTs?
Hi,

Firstly, well done on biting your tongue for over a year. Secondly, a reminder of the history here, and my position:
Which brings us to today. Here I said why I would be combining the special and standard TTs. I have done that (no small undertaking) because it makes sense for the vast majority of people. I remain saddened that not all countries are eligible for all events, but I am afraid I will not change the approach to providing TT results and updates on drivers who have received the gold reward for every non-regional TT.

If you want a pat on the back for getting gold in every TT you've participated in, then your GT7 Profile Page is the place to go. I would link you to it, but I do not have your profile page as you are not part of our community scoreboard group. It would look like this - see bottom right for the medal count.

This will be my final correspondence with you. As you said, no hard feelings, but all points have now been made.
 
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