Titanic II to be built

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I refuse to step on a boat with anything refering to Titanic or any layout resembling it. Personal belief. I'm not real big on boats. I mean they are cool to ride but somthing about floating on a load of water that's real deep...I don't like deep water. I don't like swimming if I can't touch the bottom.
 
McLaren
Compared to the ships of today, it is a bit of a "dingy". At 882ft, it barely compares in size to entry level cruise ship classes today.
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Of course it's small today, and when compared with subsequant ships it is dwarfed in size and looks tiny, but I still see a ship which is 800ft long as being pretty large. You couldn't dock an Olympic-class ship down your local jetty. But it's all relative, I suppose.

McLaren
But of course, at the same time, it's not a fair comparison. Titanic was an ocean liner, a "Boeing" of the seas, so to speak. That's not what cruise ships are & can't be because the airline companies made travel by seas in ocean liners pointless. As far as I know, Queen Mary 2 may be one of the very rare few ocean liners still sailing around the world; some are nothing more than museum/hotel pieces now because they have no chance against cruise ships, & most are nothing more than history.
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This is also true, I hadn't thought of the difference between an ocean liner and a cruise liner, a workhorse and a limousine. I hadn't thought of the difference in terms of size, nor had I considered purpose.

QM2 is still the largest ocean liner, but the Freedom-class cruise ships are the largest passenger ships overall. The internet tells me that due to her being an ocean liner, the construction of the QM2 required 40% more steel, such is the difference between an ocean liner and a cruise ship which makes comparisons more or less academic.

McLaren
The Titanic was a pretty stunning accomplishment, but much in the same way the Oasis & Allure of the Seas are; it had 2 sister ships, the Olympic & the Britannic, the former of which came first & continued til' 1935. The Titanic merely gained fame for its unfortunate end on its maiden voyage.
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Agreed. The Titanic is infamous, rather than famous. The Olympic is an equally impressive achievement, argubaly more seeing as it was the first of the class and is often overlooked in the minds of the public.

Unless you believe the conspiracy theories that it was the Olympic which was intentionally sunk in 1912, in an insurance scam.
 
Clive Palmer is the poster boy of 'gluttonous billionaire'. This is little more then a cheap, tacky advertising stunt; which is entirely in keeping with his persona.
 
Fascinating Titanic vs Oasis facts posted by Dennisch. Very cool. 👍

:lol: at Slashfan. You are worse than me & flying. :D

Personally, I'm gonna see how things go with Titanic II. May consider Titanic III or IV.
 
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I wouldn't mind another titanic, but I am not a fan of it being a cruise ship.

I'm kind of glad he didn't get a hold of White Star.
 
Liquid
Courtesy of Australian mining tycoon Clive Palmer
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Palmer is the same guy who claimed that the Australian federal government's increased taxes on mining and tenuous relationship with the Greens was a CIA conspiracy to damage the Australian mining industry, thereby protecting American firms. He's also threatening to stand for treasurer at the next election because he doesn't like the current treasurer's plans for the mining tax, because that would mean less profits for Palmer and more money going to the public (naturally, if the tax goes ahead, he'll do everything to preserve his profits and then blame the government for "taxing communities for existing"). Clive Palmer symbolises everything that is wrong with the Liberal party - they only look out for themselves and expect everyone else to fit in around it.

So I'm not taking this Titanic 2 nonsense seriously.
 
Clive Palmer to me is a mad mining magnate who I see as completely making a fool of himself. I've only ever started to see him after the Gold Coast United vs. A-League drama, he seems to be feeding off that and announcing things that prisonermonkeys described above.

Personally, I'm taking "Titanic II" with a grain of salt
 
McLaren
As far as I know, Queen Mary 2 may be one of the very rare few ocean liners still sailing around the world; some are nothing more than museum/hotel pieces now because they have no chance against cruise ships, & most are nothing more than history.
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well i no the QM2 and its sisters ships (QE2 & QV) all do around the world cruises (over 100 days) and been on the QM2...5 times now and there is always alot of other cruise ships in the docks...so its still got something left
 
robert1
well i no the QM2 and its sisters ships (QE2 & QV) all do around the world cruises (over 100 days) and been on the QM2...5 times now and there is always alot of other cruise ships in the docks...so its still got something left
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The point McLaren was making is that the Queen Mary 2 is an ocean liner, whereas the Freedom-class ships are cruise liners. The former is designed to, literally, ferry people across the water to their destinations and as McLaren metioned in his post, this has been surpassed by air travel and the fact that the QM2 is still functioning in a market which has long passed its sell-by-date is a bit of an achievement.

Ocean liners being water taxis are in comparison to cruise liners, which are designed not to ferry people as a matter of importance, but as a luxury, water-going limousine. It's not the time of the journey that matters, it's the manner in which you go from A to B.
 
Liquid
The point McLaren was making is that the Queen Mary 2 is an ocean liner, whereas the Freedom-class ships are cruise liners. The former is designed to, literally, ferry people across the water to their destinations and as McLaren metioned in his post, this has been surpassed by air travel and the fact that the QM2 is still functioning in a market which has long passed its sell-by-date is a bit of an achievement.

Ocean liners being water taxis are in comparison to cruise liners, which are designed not to ferry people as a matter of importance, but as a luxury, water-going limousine. It's not the time of the journey that matters, it's the manner in which you go from A to B.
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ah i see your point

well the only "cruise ship" ive been on is the disney ship...so oviasly there would be some differances :P cant say i have much else to compair the QM2 agaisnt
 
For the people who are claiming that the Titanic was just a dinghy (or "dingy"), I'd like to point out that she was still larger than all but a very few battleships.
 
The Titanic was the largest movable object ever made by mankind when she was built. As for building another one though, I think it would be better and more respectful - albeit less popular - if the guy decided to build a replica of the Olympic instead. It lived a much longer and more useful career, and more importantly, it doesn't have the stigma of death and tragedy attached to it like the Titanic does.

It wouldn't be nearly so newsworthy or spectacular, but the liner buffs and shipping fans (a relatively small crowd to start with compared to society as a whole) would probably be ecstatic just to see any ship from that era rebuilt and become accessible to the general public (I know I would!). That way, the moral issues around respecting the victims of the Titanic disaster could be avoided/settled and we'd get to see an awesome part of the past come back to life.

Of course, it might not get built at all, but I agree with those who said a replica of either ship should be built in Belfast. I just can't see it anywhere else.

Just my $0.02.
 
Though it was a tragedy, I think today's generation could care less about the victims. Besides, they probably think about Leo dicaprio drowning whenever Titanic is mentioned.
 
sumbrownkid
Though it was a tragedy, I think today's generation could care less about the victims. Besides, they probably think about Leo dicaprio drowning whenever Titanic is mentioned.
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I'd argue that they couldn't care less, if that's the case.
 
Liquid
I'd argue that they couldn't care less, if that's the case.
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I don't know man. If the guy hasn't messed with the actual grave of the Titanic, then why such a big issue? He's trying to make a ship inspired by the original, and if anything, that is more honoring than desecrating.
 
That's pretty much the way I look at it too, he's not really desecrating anybody and I don't really understand why people say he is. Think of it as more of a living memorial.
 
He's trying to make money off the back of a maritime disaster. The ship was only in service for 5 days. It's not famous for being a luxury liner, it's famous for sinking and killing 1500 passengers and crew.
 
sumbrownkid
Though it was a tragedy, I think today's generation could care less about the victims. Besides, they probably think about Leo dicaprio drowning whenever Titanic is mentioned.
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Young people today....Facepalm
 
L8erBaby
First thing i thought of when looking at thread title...

''Titanic II to be sunken''
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Linking back to something in my original post...

Liquid
Ships can still sink in the 'modern' age; MS Herald Of Free Enterprise, the MS Estonia and the MS Costa Concordia
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...which is statistically safer these days, sailing or flying?
 
I think the dingy comment would be if it was built today and If it was moored new a new ship it would be like having a dingy next to a small yacht. Size would be notable different.
 
TheCracker
He's trying to make money off the back of a maritime disaster. The ship was only in service for 5 days. It's not famous for being a luxury liner, it's famous for sinking and killing 1500 passengers and crew.
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I see it as a marvelous ship that was run by arrogant monkeys that said god couldn't sink this ship. That was the real tragedy. This guy just wants to build a ship inspired by the original. Nothin wrong about that.

Will people be offended if a country like Germany or France build a building in memory of the WTC?
 
sumbrownkid
I see it as a marvelous ship that was run by arrogant monkeys that said god couldn't sink this ship. That was the real tragedy. This guy just wants to build a ship inspired by the original. Nothin wrong about that.

Will people be offended if a country like Germany or France build a building in memory of the WTC?
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I'm sure they would if it was identical and called The World Trade Centre II. As people would have if one of the Russian Burans whad been named 'Challenger II' or 'Columbia II'

It's not because it's particularly disrespectful, although i'm sure many people would feel it is, it's because it's weird and macabre.
 

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