Titanic II to be built

[sumbrownkid]

If people were really sensitive to the memories of lost souls, then Boeing would've stopped making 747s. Surely they mock the dead right?

But let's agree to disagree. If they indeed build a replica of the Titanic, I'd appreciate it as a museum of how luxury and traveling was. The memory of the lost will always be there, but is it wrong to delve into history?

 

[TheCracker]

They've made 1,428 747's - There was only one Titanic (or 3 if you include the other 2 Olympic-class ships).

If a ship of the Titanic's size, style and luxury wants to be replicated in modern times, why not name it after one of it's more successful sister ships, the Olympic or Britannic, neither of which failed to complete their maiden voyage? (although the the Britannic was also lost 3 or 4 years after it went into service)

 

[Liquid]

The Olympic would be better. The Britannic was the largest of the class but wasn't a commercial ship. She was intended to be, but she was a hospital ship during WWI.

 

[sumbrownkid]

They've made 1,428 747's - There was only one Titanic (or 3 if you include the other 2 Olympic-class ships).

If a ship of the Titanic's size, style and luxury wants to be replicated in modern times, why not name it after one of it's more successful sister ships, the Olympic or Britannic, neither of which failed to complete their maiden voyage? (although the the Britannic was also lost 3 or 4 years after it went into service)

Interestingly enough, around 2800 people were killed in 747 tragedies, slightly larger than the victim count for the Titanic. But I guess losing that much in one go is much more historically significant.

 

[Robin]

I'm sure they would if it was identical and called The World Trade Centre II.

It's a skyscraper in Hong Kong but just as old as 'the' world trade centre. I wonder what people think now when they look at the name... no one local seems to mind and there never was a name change.

 

[Liquid]

Interestingly enough, around 2800 people were killed in 747 tragedies, slightly larger than the victim count for the Titanic. But I guess losing that much in one go is much more historically significant.

But losing 583 people in the worst aeroplane crash in history, the Tenerife airport disaster, is a huge amount. JAL 123, another 747, was the loss of 520 people, the worst loss of life involving one aeroplane. Those two accidents alone are over 1,000 people.

The 'historical significance' of the Titanic is that people think it was a display of 20th century arrogance, with the claims that it was unsinkable. No such claims were made public by White Star and it was only after the accident that the chief of White Star admitted that he himself thought the Titanic was unsinkable. But he never actively ascribed those qualities to the ship during its service. Of course, it's with hindsight that we see the capacity for enough lifeboats not being exercised as being tragic and unfortunate on those who lost their lives but even this was not the first large-scale case of women and children first. This originated with the HMS Birkenhead in the 1850s where the chivalry of the soldiers onboard saved the lives of 193 people from a total of 643.

The Titanic was the largest, grandest and most luxurious ship of its kind at the time, and this is probably why it has been such an enduring story. A factual story, as some people of these generations find hard to believe.

Again, it would be nice to see a living replica of an Olympic-class ship, and the Olympic would be a better choice given that it was the only one of its class to sail a successful life, but sadly the mystique of the Titanic generates much more public interest. If some people didn't even know that the Titanic was real, they're hardly going to know that there was a sister ship, are they?

 

[sumbrownkid]

Great points.👍

 

[terminator363]

It's a skyscraper in Hong Kong but just as old as 'the' world trade centre. I wonder what people think now when they look at the name... no one local seems to mind and there never was a name change.

It's a place where the world can trade, nothing more to it, no reason to make it taboo.

 

[Froudeybrand]

But didn't the Olympic crash or collide with other boats during its life lol

 

[Liquid]

But didn't the Olympic crash or collide with other boats during its life lol

It crashed in 1911, when the captain was the very same Edward John Smith who would captain the Titanic.

But the Olympic sailed for over 20 years and was good at it.

 

[TP1]

Some of you guys are mixing up ideas. The Titanic is a name of a specific ship. Naming any other ship as Titanic 2 is directly reffering to the ship called Titanic from 1900s.

The World Trade Center on the other hand is different. As almost every country has a WTC. It is not reffering to the NY WTC.

So comparing the two ideas isn't logic. A more appropriate comparison would be calling two buildings as The Twin Towers 2.

 

[marluxiaXI11]

The Britannic ships had their fair share of problems and their were 3 of them.

 

[Antonisbob]

I think it's a cool idea, I like the looks of the older cruise ships, 4 large stacks and the like.

This might make me actually want to go onto a cruise ship once in my lifetime, provided it doesn't sink.

 

[Liquid]

The Britannic ships had their fair share of problems and their were 3 of them.

Not really. Just the one major mishap:

SS Britannic - 1874-1903

Sailed successfully for 29 years. (Although it did survive a collision with the SS Celtic)

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HMHS Britannic - 1914-1916

Passenger ship converted to a hospital ship for WWI. Struck a mine near Greece.

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RMS Britannic - 1929-1960

Sailed successfully for 31 years. Even survived WWII as a troop ship.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Titanic was a good looking ship compared to modern cruise ships, which are ugly and soul-less IMO. Titanic looked athletic, at the same time as dignified. Modern cruise ships look no better then 1980's cross channel RoRo's to me, or a DB7 vs. a Citroen Picasso.

To re-use the Titanic name though is pointless unless the new one shares things in common with the old one. And I wonder how many would be too sentimental or supersticious to book a voyage aboard TITANIC?

 

[mister dog]

Young people today....Facepalm

Haha they are all simple beauty queens from the look of it, which makes these statements not so surprising.

Anyway i love the ship and everything about it, so no objection at all to making a exact replica. Is a smart business idea as there's gonna be enough candidates worldwide that will pay top dollar for a cruise on it.

 

[Keef]

Young people today....Facepalm

I'm not sure if we should make fun of them for being dumb or make fun of their education system for being under par. Their comments seem more upset that they didn't know it was real - if they were insisting that it wasn't then they're obviously dumb. Nobody knows much of anything until they're exposed to it so I'm more likely to believe that they've simply never been taught about the Titanic. I bet once they found out it was real they went straight to Wiki and read articles about it for hours. Stupid people don't do that.

 

[Liquid]

One shouldn't pre-judge, but I doubt "Megz :-)" and "brittnay £izama" would be interested in shipping disasters.

I just hope they don't think that the Jack & Rose story is also real...

 

[Barra333]

Back to Clive Palmer's dinghy... it just got a step closer.

Construction on the Titanic II is due to begin soon with billionaire mining magnate Clive Palmer announcing he has hired a ship design and marine engineering company to do a full review of the project.
Once Finland-based company Deltamarin has completed the review and cleared the Titanic II against safety and construction regulations, work on the ship will begin in China.

Link

 

[gtone339]

Replica bow of the ill-fated Titanic.



Would've been nice of them to actually build an actual scale model of the ship, consisting with the original materials built for the RMS Titanic.

 

[JSadler]

He's really going to do it, huh? Hmm. Think I'm going to sit this one out.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Quick update on this thread: not content with building the Titanic II, Clive Palmer has now announced that he wants to clone a dinosaur for a luxury resort, presumably because being mauled by a reptilian monstrosity is a vital part of the honeymoon experience that has been sadly and inexplicably lacking until now.

 

[Slash]

Hmm, yet they haven't yet revived Mammoth's.

 

[Grand Prix]

I'm not even going to list all the problems with trying to accomplish such a thing, someone else can do that, so I'll just say:

Good luck with that.

 

[bergauk]

"It's not the first time that the billionaire has planned to turn cinema into reality.

Earlier this year, he unveiled plans to make the 'Titanic II', a vast liner he is having built in China."

>It's not the first time that the billionaire has planned to turn cinema into reality.


Uh.. What? Titanic was real.

 

[Keef]

Is this guy like the next Howard Hughes or something? At least Hughes actually did things instead of just dream about them and get on the news.

 

[TheCracker]

Quick update on this thread: not content with building the Titanic II, Clive Palmer has now announced that he wants to clone a dinosaur for a luxury resort, presumably because being mauled by a reptilian monstrosity is a vital part of the honeymoon experience that has been sadly and inexplicably lacking until now.

This guy must watch a lot of Hollywood blockbusters. What's he going to come with next a car that transforms into a robot?

 

[homeforsummer]

Quick update on this thread: not content with building the Titanic II, Clive Palmer has now announced that he wants to clone a dinosaur for a luxury resort, presumably because being mauled by a reptilian monstrosity is a vital part of the honeymoon experience that has been sadly and inexplicably lacking until now.

I wonder if he realises it's not as simple as it looks in Jurassic Park? I'd been under the impression that although the theory is sound, DNA doesn't physically last 65+ million years, regardless of whether it's inside a mosquito encased in amber or not...

 

[Barra333]

I wonder if he realises it's not as simple as it looks in Jurassic Park? I'd been under the impression that although the theory is sound, DNA doesn't physically last 65+ million years, regardless of whether it's inside a mosquito encased in amber or not...

Not intact anyway. As far as I know, fragments of dino DNA have been isolated, but only really small amounts. Clive, try writing a book with only the d and t keys and let me know how it goes.

 

[homeforsummer]

Not intact anyway. As far as I know, fragments of dino DNA have been isolated, but only really small amounts. Clive, try writing a book with only the d and t keys and let me know how it goes.

Quite. And after that, he can build a working car using only glovebox lids.