To All Floridians!

[StrokerAce]

2006 Hurricane season reported to be as bad, as 2004-2005. 18-28 Named storms reported, may be less than last year, but the storms are suppost to be more potent.

Here we go again, but hey. It keeps me in a job.

 

[Omnis]

Woo. Everybody do spooky fingers.

South florida is getting real scummy, anyway. Everyone still has tarps on their houses. I can't believe the sloth involved with getting things repaired.

 

[CDailey]

Bring it on, *****.

I'm ready, camera in hand.

I like hurricane season. I mean...I like the weather, as in, heavy rain and wind.

 

[StrokerAce]

Ha, well I chase them for a living. But I live in Palm Beach Gardens( north of West palm) And I had a great time during, wilma, charly, jeanne, frances, katrina.... man I forgot all of the storms in the last 2 years!

JAcksonville hasnt had a good storm in a loooooong time though, they are well due.

 

[Kylehnat]

I think Hurricane Kyle is on tap for 2008. Come on, hurricane #11!!!

 

[Magic069]

I understand the excitement level in the thought of a hurricane with its target set on Florida, but be sure that you live in a well built, elevated home before you start saying bring it on.

You could lose everything, and that fact sort-of takes the excitement level out of it.

Plus, if you do pull through one that may not be a cat. 5 just fine, the sure annoyance of having one once a month is not exciting either. Trust me, I did it. Kissimmee, Florida 2004 had three cross right over top of it. The tree/trash clean up isn't very fun. Plus homes get pushed to their limits if their being asked to protect themselves with so much pressure differences with in such a short period of time. People got through the first two with not that much damage, but when the third came threw it finished what the first two help start. (Example my house, half the roof was peeled off during the third hurricane due to loose previously damaged roofing that created a sail.)

I am not trying to rain on anyones parade. I find myself getting excited as well, but to challenge mother nature is only asking for fate to help her in ways you don't want to see.

 

[Danoff]

I am not trying to rain on anyones parade.

I suppose you're not blowing hot air either. Not trying to dampen peoples' spirits?

 

[Omnis]

Bring it on? Umm...no. I don't like Hurricanes. It's bad enough dealing with people during an average day.

 

[Magic069]

I suppose you're not blowing hot air either. Not trying to dampen people spirits?

Exactly. I'm glad you got my drift.

 

[StrokerAce]

I love anything severe. Hail, wind, lightning, Hurricanes, tonadoes. Even a really bad t-storm in the summer.

Its the respect I have for weather, that I know I cant control it. It is something more than I will ever be. In 2004 I lost my home to Jeanne, lucky thing was... I had all my valuables ont plastic tarps so I was ready.

I have been oin over 40 Hurricanes, and seen well over 100 tonadoes. I have seen it all. When a hurricane is about to strike Texas or NC, I drive up and set up to ride it out. I know the fury of storms and the power they can put out then most people who are on these boards. I'm not trying to say: Hey I have seen alot of rain and wind so im better than you and know more than you. I'm actually working my way up to a weather Only thread for severe weather and weather forecasts when people need them. Just something cool id like to start.

 

[Kylehnat]

Exactly. I'm glad you got my drift.

Let's not form off the coast of western Africa and get all wound up....

Bah! I'm rubbish at puns. Where's Touring Mars when you need him?

 

[Pupik]

I think Hurricane Kyle is on tap for 2008. Come on, hurricane #11!!!

Go away! Erm, not you. The windy-windy thing.

It's bad enough dealing with people during an average day.

We're so close, yet so far from Rat's Mouth, USA.

They say every year is going to be bad, this time we actually have to believe it. Or at least, stock up on gasoline, batteries, and sanity.

 

[Zardoz]

Bring it on, *****.

I'm ready, camera in hand.

I like hurricane season. I mean...I like the weather, as in, heavy rain and wind.

*adds to favorites list, makes mental note to bring it up some time next October*

 

[StrokerAce]

Lol, we need to get some people from Cali over here the next time a hurricane like Jeanne or Wilma comes a knocking. Its a rush you wont soon forget. Eveything around constantly getting ripped apart, for hours on end. Its scary, yes, but thats the point. Its something you cant control. Makes for great picture taking, and video taking.

I see that some people actually live close to me.. I live about 30 miles north of Boca Raton. Palm Beach Gardens here..

Oh and by the way Zardoz, October is the second busiest month in hurricane season. You dont have to bring it up at all, but if you still need to because your itching to hear more about the excitment we have over here, try December.(yes I know your joking.)

 

[Kylehnat]

Lol, we need to get some people from Cali over here the next time a hurricane like Jeanne or Wilma comes a knocking.

And then you should visit California for some world-class earthquakes, which tend not to give a week's notice as to their arrival time, and are just as scary and destructive (though they don't usually last but a minute). Seriously, when the floor beneath you is jumping and swinging, your brain cannot comprehend it (the ground is not supposed to move), and it's rather disorienting.

 

[StrokerAce]

And then you should visit California for some world-class earthquakes, which tend not to give a week's notice as to their arrival time, and are just as scary and destructive (though they don't usually last but a minute). Seriously, when the floor beneath you is jumping and swinging, your brain cannot comprehend it (the ground is not supposed to move), and it's rather disorienting.

Ive been in a 7.8 mag, in singapore, 4 years ago.Also, 5 random other ones, one in oregon, and three in Mexico. They are no way as destructive as a hurricane, not as long lasting and not as wide spread damage.

 

[Kylehnat]

That's an interesting poll-type question: Would you rather be caught in a Category 5 hurricane, or an 7.5+ magnitude earthquake?

I'd pick the hurricane, for the simple fact that we can see it coming days before it actually hits, and prepare accordingly. An earthquake may prevent me from even finishing this post, and could even kill me. All I would need to avoid this is 60 seconds warning. I could then run out of here and hunker in the parking lot across the street, where I'd probably not be harmed. But I don't have that, and that's what's scary.

[RANT]
Say what you will about us west-coast folk not appreciating the wrath of tropical hurricanes, but don't be so smug as to imply that we don't have equally-powerful natural disasters that could, and in fact do, cause massive destruction and loss of life. In the Pacific Northwest, we're sitting near a fault capable of quakes 8.0-9.0. Should it ever happen, Andrew and Katrina will look like ****ing pussies. And I sure as hell am not going to expect FEMA to show up. I'm not sure they even know that Seattle is in the United States.

We've got wind, too. Strong wind. Fifteen years ago, sustained winds of 100+ mph dumped a 120-foot hemlock into our living room, mere feet from where my sister and I were sleeping. We knew the storm was coming for a couple days, but it unexpectedly picked up strength of the coast of British Columbia, bringing winds 40 mph higher than expected, and dropped several tornadoes. You can mutter "it doesn't match the 160 mph of a hurricane" all you want, but if that tree had fallen a few feet this way or that, do you think it would make any difference to me?
[/RANT]

Hey, that earthquake didn't happen, and I got to finish the post! Maybe tomorrow...

 

[Pupik]

In the Pacific Northwest, we're sitting near a fault capable of quakes 8.0-9.0....And I sure as hell am not going to expect FEMA to show up. I'm not sure they even know that Seattle is in the United States.

Actually, it's quite possible that anything west of the San Andreas fault line could indeed fall back into the Pacific Ocean after a few Big Ones, destroying 40 million lives.

That pretty much trumps a hurricane any day of the week.

Florida is likely one of the least-earthquake-prone areas of the world; the nearest faultline is many time zones away.

 

[Famine]

Ive been in a 7.8 mag, in singapore, 4 years ago.Also, 5 random other ones, one in oregon, and three in Mexico. They are no way as destructive as a hurricane, not as long lasting and not as wide spread damage.

A hurricane-class storm produces about 1x1015 Joules per hour.

A magnitude 8 earthquake produces about 1x1016 Joules in a single burst of up to a minute.

 

[StrokerAce]

Lol, geeze guys, I never ever said earthquakes werent as a bad natural disaster. I nver told you I vomited my brains out after the one in singapore. I was telling you guys to head over here because of the excitment that a hurricane causes, its a buzz in the air, all the poeple in a rush to get prepared. Stuff like that.
You didnt need to take offense to that.

I know that Florida has also NEVER had an earthquake in recorded history, but the fault lines are closer than you think, just south of cuba actually, and Puerto Rico. But its a weak line, never really has anything worth recording.

Famine it also depends on the size and strength of the storm, Hurricane Mitch of 1998 had 210mph winds and the energy from one second of that storm could power NYC and the surrounding burrows for one year. Earthquakes usually are easier to record, as hurricanes scare everyone inside and data is hard to get as data recoridng devices are blown off roofs and such.

But back to my arguement, The deadliest US earthquake of all time (1906 SF earthquake and fire) had only 700 people killed, not saying that isnt alot I feel for everyone of those familys, but if you look back 6 years..... Into Galveston texas, 1900. Over 8000 people killed from a cat 3 hurricane. Both natural disasters had no warning, SF has more of a population base than galveston, with Houston being the closest city. The costliest earthquake, was the 1906 SF wuake also, adding up to 100,000,000$ 1906 dollars also, which would be about 10billion now. Hurricane Katrina.......a Cat 3(winds of 111mph-131mph) storm we all know and love. Caused 75,000,000,000$, and still rising.

Earthquakes can cause huge amounts of damage over short amounts of time, Hurricanes can cause small, and huge amounts depending on gusts of winds and such, over a days span.

But like I said, Im not trying to say hurricanes are 1337er than eathquakes. THeyare both horrible natural disasters and I have been in both, and respect them both equally.

 

[Kylehnat]

Florida is likely one of the least-earthquake-prone areas of the world; the nearest faultline is many time zones away.

Yet you have hurricanes. Nebraska has neither, but has tornadoes. New York has none of the above, but has blizzards. It's kind of spooky that in a country as big as the U.S., nobody is immune from life-threatening natural disasters, no matter where they live. Even Hawaii may end up burying itself in lava

 

[Danoff]

Yet you have hurricanes. Nebraska has neither, but has tornadoes. New York has none of the above, but has blizzards. It's kind of spooky that in a country as big as the U.S., nobody is immune from life-threatening natural disasters, no matter where they live. Even Hawaii may end up burying itself in lava

What about Arizona? They don't have much in the way of natural disasters right? I thought I remembered hearing the San Diego doesn't get much in the way of earthquakes.

 

[Kylehnat]

Arizona? They have old people driving around. San Diego? Swimmer's itch, I suppose.

 

[Famine]

Famine it also depends on the size and strength of the storm, Hurricane Mitch of 1998 had 210mph winds and the energy from one second of that storm could power NYC and the surrounding burrows for one year. Earthquakes usually are easier to record, as hurricanes scare everyone inside and data is hard to get as data recoridng devices are blown off roofs and such.

Well quite, but it still remains that an 8.0 earthquake - still quite a way down the scale and less than a fiftieth as strong and one two hundredth as powerful as the largest ever recorded quake - puts out as much energy in a minute as a typical hurricane does in an entire day, making it 1,440 times stronger. And that's only an 8.0 compared to a Cat 3 Hurricane...

But back to my arguement, The deadliest US earthquake of all time (1906 SF earthquake and fire) had only 700 people killed, not saying that isnt alot I feel for everyone of those familys, but if you look back 6 years..... Into Galveston texas, 1900. Over 8000 people killed from a cat 3 hurricane. Both natural disasters had no warning, SF has more of a population base than galveston, with Houston being the closest city. The costliest earthquake, was the 1906 SF wuake also, adding up to 100,000,000$ 1906 dollars also, which would be about 10billion now. Hurricane Katrina.......a Cat 3(winds of 111mph-131mph) storm we all know and love. Caused 75,000,000,000$, and still rising.

Well again, quite. But lest we forget, the deadliest earthquake of all time killed a quarter of a million people. Christmas Eve, 2004... Though it's possible that a hurricane which hit Bangladesh in 1970 killed even more.

And it was "only" a 9.3.

 

[StrokerAce]

The last major hurricane to hit NYC was in 1938 or 35 I dont feel like looking it up, and the last ine to hit period is 1970 Hurricane David, they do get hit, but about once every thirty years. The USA is probably the worst area in the world for natual disasters we get EVERYTHING!. Ariazona gets bad droughts and flooding caqnt forget that. San Diego, has the nations best weather, and Florida actually has more Tornadoes than any other state in the US.

 

[Famine]

The USA is probably the worst area in the world for natual disasters we get EVERYTHING!

I think South-East Asia might argue with that one, having had the two worst natural disasters evAh, along with frequent typhoons/cyclones, earthquakes, active volcanoes (Krakatoa, anyone?), tsunami...

 

[Danoff]

Ariazona gets bad droughts and flooding caqnt forget that.

If droughts and flooding count, then nobody is safe anywhere.

 

[StrokerAce]

I think South-East Asia might argue with that one, having had the two worst natural disasters evAh, along with frequent typhoons/cyclones, earthquakes, active volcanoes (Krakatoa, anyone?), tsunami...

I never said how bad it is, but since most areas down there are third world, the damage and death output is about 10fold compared to USA or england or another well put contry.

 

[Famine]

I never said how bad it is, but since most areas down there are third world, the damage and death output is about 10fold compared to USA or england or another well put contry.

Nevertheless, that region isn't called "The Ring of Fire" for nothing. It's a massive fault line, the lot of it. The 2004 quake/tsunami was a 9.3, the second largest earthquake ever recorded (the largest was also on the Ring - a 9.5 in Chile - as were the 4th and 5th, in Alaska). Two of the three largest ever explosions of all time took place there too - Tambora (1815) and Krakatoa (1883) - not to mention the almost-as-devastating Mount Pinatubo eruption (Phillippines, 1991), which single-handedly dropped global temperatures by as much as 5 degrees, or the cataclysmic Toba eruption, which supposedly took place 75,000 years ago (again in Indonesia). Or the Deccan Traps, one of the proposed mechanisms which killed the dinosaurs.

All this on top of being a typhoon track - and Typhoon Tip (later Supertyphoon Tip) makes Mitch, Katrina, Rita and the great Galveston Hurricane look like butterfly farts, recording the lowest ever pressure outside a tornado on the surface of the Earth (870mmHg)...

I'm not just talking about deaths, I'm talking about sheer energy in these things - the two strongest earthquakes ever recorded, the two largest volcanic eruptions in prehistory, three of the largest volcanic eruptions in recorded history and the most intense storm ever recorded all took place in south-east Asia.

 

[Omnis]

LOL, Famine. Butterfly farts.

Anyway, Stroker, don't turn into a douche. You like hurricanes for the "damage dealt" factor, yet you neglect Southeast Asia's plight just because they're "3rd world"? How disrespectful. Deaths are the worst damage of all, and Southeast Asia seems to have a lot more of that along with their greater amount of disaster.