Touring Car discussion - WTCC, BTCC etcTouring Cars

[Ardius]

I'd like two short sprint races and then one longer race with a compulsory pitstop in BBTC to be honest.

Pit stops were lame last time they were in the BTCC - they were only brought in to prevent the same teams and drivers winning all the time and to create random results!
There are plenty of other series which show off team work in pit stops and longer races and strategy - but to me touring cars is about short, exciting, bumper-to-bumper racing with little care for strategies.

Making the races longer and enforcing pit stops turns it into yet another GT series - there is already a strong British GT series.

I personally wouldn't change a thing about the BTCC format.

Agreed, though maybe I would simplify the points system.

 

[Ardius]

NGTC-spec Honda finally unveiled:

 

[Liquid]

I would like my eyes back please.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Pit stops were lame last time they were in the BTCC - they were only brought in to prevent the same teams and drivers winning all the time and to create random results!
There are plenty of other series which show off team work in pit stops and longer races and strategy - but to me touring cars is about short, exciting, bumper-to-bumper racing with little care for strategies.

Making the races longer and enforcing pit stops turns it into yet another GT series - there is already a strong British GT series.

Funny that. Touring car races have only been this short in recent years.

Your right about pit-stops though. Now that I think about it I remember seeing some of them!

I suppose the reason I'd like the races to a a bit longer is because I'm sure at least part of the bash to pass action I find distasteful is caused by a need to get to the front soon or it will be too late.

 

[Liquid]

I thought pit stops were brilliant when introduced in 1998. Oulton Park was the best pit stop race that year.

Round 10, 1998 Part 1


Round 10, 1998 Part 2

 

[matt-mtb]

That Honda is really nice, can't wait for the MG to be released.

 

[Ardius]

Andrew Jordan's Eurotech Honda:

 

[Tom]

That Honda is really nice, can't wait for the MG to be released.

The MG has already been released.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6610323#post6610323

 

[Liquid]

That Civic. Looks. Horrible.

 

[Ardius]

I far prefer the new Civic over the old one. But I prefer the good old Integra Type R over all of them.

Andy Jordan's Pirtek sponsorship forever looks good on any car, though I preferred the orange-flared effect they used on the Vectra - the Civic livery still looks great though.

I also prefer the straighter-lines styling of the Dynamics-Honda livery compared to the rounded-style livery of the old Civic.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

The MG has already been released.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6610323#post6610323

No thats a focus

 

[Diehardracer]

The MG has already been released.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6610323#post6610323

Not the actual finished product I don't think. Not the one Andy and Jason will be racing in 2012. The Pirtek and Honda Racing Civic's you see over the page will be the one Jordan/Smith and Neal/Shedden will be racing respectively. The one that will be taking to the grid and winning the championship again.

 

[Tired Tyres]

That Civic. Looks. Horrible.

That is because it is a Civic. I don't like them. I miss the Integra. That was a good looking car. Progress does that though.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

The MG has already been released.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6610323#post6610323

Thats just concept art, I'm sure the final product will look different, media day is on Monday IIRC so we'll see then.

 

[Pezzarinho17]

No thats a focus

With an MG badge on the front of it?...

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

With an MG badge on the front of it?...

basicly
http://www.revgear.co.uk/blog/115

 

[Pezzarinho17]

Fair enough! Expect it to look different then come release or first spy shots.

 

[Furinkazen]

Jeff Smith's in the second Pirtek Civic. Jordan has yellow rims, Smith with red. Smith's car under construction.

 

[Diehardracer]

basicly
http://www.revgear.co.uk/blog/115

I see absolutely no similarities whatsoever. Wait...I can. It has 4 round wheels.

 

[Diehardracer]

25 car lineup for 2012. No STR I see. But the TBA RAR is bound to be Rob Austin.

1 - Matt Neal - Honda Yuasa Racing Team - Honda Civic
52 - Gordon Shedden - Honda Yuasa Racing Team - Honda Civic

99 - Jason Plato - Triple Eight Race Engineering - MG6 GT
44 - Andy Neate - Triple Eight Race Engineering - MG6 GT

4 - Mat Jackson - Motorbase Performance - Ford Focus ST
5 - Aron Smith - Motorbase Performance - Ford Focus ST
6 - Liam Griffin - Motorbase Performance - Ford Focus ST

8 - Rob Collard - West Surrey Racing - BMW 320si
18 - Nick Foster - West Surrey Racing - BMW 320si
38 - Tom Onslow-Cole - West Surrey Racing - BMW 320si

55 - Jeff Smith - Eurotech Racing - Honda Civic
77 - Andrew Jordan - Eurotech Racing - Honda Civic

66 - John Thorne - Thorney Motorsport - Vauxhall Insignia VX-R
TBA - TBA - Thorney Motorsport - Vauxhall Insignia VXR-R

31 - Mark Hazell - Rob Austin Racing - Audi A4
TBA - TBA - Rob Austin Racing - Audi A4

17 - Dave Newsham - Team ES Racing - Vauxhall Vectra
78 - Chris James - Team ES Racing - Vauxhall Vectra

33 - Adam Morgan - Speedworks Motorsport - Toyota Avensis
50 - Tony Hughes - Speedworks Motorsport - Toyota Avensis

11 - Frank Wrathall - Dynojet Racing - Toyota Avensis

12 - Dan Welch - Welch Automotive - Proton Persona

34 - Tony Gilham - TBA - Honda Civic

43 - Lea Wood - Team Wood Racing - Vauxhall Vectra

48 - Ollie Jackson - AmD Tuning - Volkswagen Golf

 

[Only_in_f1]

25 car lineup for 2012. No STR I see. But the TBA RAR is bound to be Rob Austin.

Wouldn't be so sure. RAR are struggling for a budget and want, more likely need, a driver who'll bring in money. Rumours are he's after Turkington, but if not someone with a wad of cash.

 

[Ardius]

So here it finally is:

 

[Liquid]

Too many colours and sponsors!

 

[TheCracker]

Doesn't look any better in the flesh

 

[Only_in_f1]

Plato not a happy bunny! Car not ready to test today, looks like it'll start the season green!

 

[Pezzarinho17]

Plato not a happy bunny! Car not ready to test today, looks like it'll start the season green!

When is he ever happy?...

 

[Only_in_f1]

25 car lineup for 2012. No STR I see. But the TBA RAR is bound to be Rob Austin.


31 - Mark Hazell - Rob Austin Racing - Audi A4
TBA - TBA - Rob Austin Racing - Audi A4

Swanwick drove the car today and apparently Mr. Hazell is no longer interested in driving the car. Meaning we're likely to see Austin &/or Swanwick in the Audi.

 

[Diehardracer]

Too many colours and sponsors!

Some people are just never happy. Oh deary me. Few I bet will be thinking too much about the sponsorship and colours if Plato starts beating Matt Neal and doing well.

 

[Diehardracer]

So here it finally is:

Blimey! For a moment there I thought I was looking at Motorbase Performance it looks so uncannily like the Focus!

 

[Liquid]

Some people are just never happy. Oh deary me. Few I bet will be thinking too much about the sponsorship and colours if Plato starts beating Matt Neal and doing well.

Whether it looks good and whether it does well are two different questions. And this MG is not a good looker.

I like Plato. I always want him to do well. I like RAR too, because they have a nice car. Gotta love the A4.