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Onyx reforming = opportunity for new brands. All I was doing was speculating.
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Well, the Autosport and Touring Car Times articles suggest that Onyx will be entering with a fifth marque, but nobody is saying anything.
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@Holdenhsvgtsr probably has the most insider knowledge on the subject, that's why he said that Ford are returning to WTCC. Should be interesting to watch develop.
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Well, the organisers said some time ago that they expected a fifth manufacturer to enter. The announcement of Onyx's return was a surprise, but Earle did not just decide to return to motorsport after twenty-odd years and put a team together three months out from the start of the season. It's a fair bet that he has been working on this bid for some time and only just announced it now.
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It seems to me this is just a name change for Arena. Let the company go bankrupt, then start a new company with a new(old) name with a clean slate. Not unheard of before.
The name is just smoke and mirrors.
It wouldn't be surprising if they are running Ford Focus' again. It also wouldn't be surprising if this was planned way back at the start of last year.
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Bumpage for WTCC!
Quali recap -
Citroen dominant, stupidly so (2 seconds off is classed as "good" or "close").
Muller cut the chicane in a farcical Q3, where nobody actually understood what was supposed to happen.
Martin Haven and Matt Neal confused each other.
Tarquini and probably Morbidelli out for the whole weekend.
Quali recap -
Citroen dominant, stupidly so (2 seconds off is classed as "good" or "close").
Muller cut the chicane in a farcical Q3, where nobody actually understood what was supposed to happen.
Martin Haven and Matt Neal confused each other.
Tarquini and probably Morbidelli out for the whole weekend.
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They'll get it done in one lap (probably unfairly), and then team-orders fest.
Also these cars are worryingly flimsy.
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Geez.....
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Why did the director cut to garage cam when Coronel was sliding over the road?
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Fail. So much.
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Coronel vs Bennani on grid in car...
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Very emotional from Bennani on the grid, he was totally innocent but still feels terrible.
Muller did exactly the same to Loeb but Seb hit the brakes.
Muller did exactly the same to Loeb but Seb hit the brakes.
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I just sent Tom a message on twitter...
@TomCoronel you did crowd Bennani a little, just you didn't seem aware. Shame. That's racing
IMSA you got competition for worst race control.
Bennani penalized? WHAT! Eurosports reaction priceless.
@TomCoronel you did crowd Bennani a little, just you didn't seem aware. Shame. That's racing
IMSA you got competition for worst race control.
Bennani penalized? WHAT! Eurosports reaction priceless.
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Drive through for Bennani for hitting Coronel, no idea why...
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As you mention yourself, he hitted Coronel and caused the crash.
Despite coronel crowding he didnt do anything wrong trying to defend his line, whereas behnani should have lifted his throtlle to avoid collision.
To be fair it's a racing incident and a pity for Behnani and Coronel..
At least that's my view on it.. And i would have lifted if i were Behnani..
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Another safety car 
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Behind the Citroen's that was a pretty good race, even if it did only have a few cars.
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WTCC infuriates me in every way.
Citroen ruined racing, heartless sour bunch.
Bennani showed what racing is about.
Stewarding decisions that are just unbelievably terrible.
Cars that are ugly and produce no spectacle.
Most importantly though, are these cars even safe?
Firstly, the Tarquini incident - he only got out the car because the Honda has a tailgate.
Then all the cars seem to be disintegrating. Coronel's car was so crumpled you could see right through to the dashboard.
Finally, Valente's car caught fire about ten minutes after it had been switched off.
Citroen ruined racing, heartless sour bunch.
Bennani showed what racing is about.
Stewarding decisions that are just unbelievably terrible.
Cars that are ugly and produce no spectacle.
Most importantly though, are these cars even safe?
Firstly, the Tarquini incident - he only got out the car because the Honda has a tailgate.
Then all the cars seem to be disintegrating. Coronel's car was so crumpled you could see right through to the dashboard.
Finally, Valente's car caught fire about ten minutes after it had been switched off.
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He would have been able to get out of the car through the passenger side if the wall hadn't been there. You can hardly blame the car for that.
That would be because the boot lid wasn't there. There is pretty much nothing inside these cars except for a roll cage and driver's seat. And it did it's job as Coronel is perfectly fine.
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Walls are on all tracks. It's the most basic of safety features that's been ignored. If the car was on fire, he'd be trapped, so i'm not sure why you think it's not a danger. Tarquini's bringing it up with the FIA anyway, and quite rightly so.
I'm more concerned with
They look flimsy as heck, and as soon as they get a tap, whole chunks of bodywork drop off.
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Then don't watch it.
First you say Audi are lifeless for doing well in WEC and now Citroen are heartless for doing well in WTCC(though the dominance does look slightly annoying from both perspectives), I see a pattern here.
This has happened before, not a massive deal.
Besides I barely follow WTCC, I just view articles from time to time.
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