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Meh. I find the races a little too long.
There. I said it.
There. I said it.
Touring Car discussion - WTCC, BTCC etcTouring Cars
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"Oh, V8 Supercars, yeah, sure..."
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I get the highlights on Motors TV. I love how it's usually laid back, with the guy in the pits seemingly given free reign to go anywhere, and I love how everyone has a nickname. Frosty Winterbottom is the best nickname of ever. I also like how it is (usually) clean racing with such big cars on somewhat tight circuits.
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Racecar Engineering have a free 46 page pdf guide to the current BTCC NGTC regs and specs. well worth a read.
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/...id+Guide+-+Supp&dm_i=6NM,2DIBO,6QJ8V9,8MEQM,1
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/...id+Guide+-+Supp&dm_i=6NM,2DIBO,6QJ8V9,8MEQM,1
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Aka Larko, Skaifey and Crompo.
In Adelaide, Larko was up in the starting gantry while the race was started. I've never seen that before.
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That's pretty much par for the course. I suppose it makes up for the amount of grief he gets from the others. Once he was explaining the changes to the brakes under COTF regulations, but put a brake pad in upside down. It was the first thing the others picked up on, and naturally, everyone took their turn. He might be retired, but he's still the unluckiest man in motorsports.
But even I'm surprised at the way the commentators can interrupt post-race debriefings for interviews. The teams don't seem to mind at all.
But even I'm surprised at the way the commentators can interrupt post-race debriefings for interviews. The teams don't seem to mind at all.
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Hello fellow race fans...
I've been a long supporter of BTCC and always tried to catch races at Thruxton when they're on. I now live in Munich with the missus and want to watch some racing, so I thought WTCC at Salzburg Ring in Austria would be closest and cheapest.
How is the WTCC championship... is it similar to BTCC in terms of relatively equal, close pack racing? I love the wheel to wheel racing and overtaking of BTCC and want to see something similar
It seems WTCC is, to be honest, poorly marketed. I couldn't find anything about what support races follow the championship... anyone know?
Any advice, knowledge or anything on WTCC?
I've been a long supporter of BTCC and always tried to catch races at Thruxton when they're on. I now live in Munich with the missus and want to watch some racing, so I thought WTCC at Salzburg Ring in Austria would be closest and cheapest.
How is the WTCC championship... is it similar to BTCC in terms of relatively equal, close pack racing? I love the wheel to wheel racing and overtaking of BTCC and want to see something similar
It seems WTCC is, to be honest, poorly marketed. I couldn't find anything about what support races follow the championship... anyone know?
Any advice, knowledge or anything on WTCC?
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I watch the WTCC on TV and while the venues are good and the cars (roughly) similar to the BTCC the grids are these days a lot smaller (now that the BTCC is back up to full 32 car grids) and as a rest the racing loses a littel.
Still worth a look live I would suggest, however I would agree that its very poorly marketed.
Still worth a look live I would suggest, however I would agree that its very poorly marketed.
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Stick with the BTCC. The WTCC is little more than a marketing exercise for manufacturers, and the series has struggled with poor circuit choices (like Monza, which isn't suited to touring cars) and a race format that is too short for actual racing to take place. The BTCC is far more competitive, and far more diverse.
If you're looking for a new series to get involved in and aren't already familiar with it, I strongly recommended you look into V8 Supercars. It's unlikely that you'll be able to watch a race in person, unless you're willing to fly out to Australia or New Zealand, but they're worth watching. Pukekohe is on this weekend, which is a fantastic little sprint circuit which is as bumpy as it is fast. In today's race, the top twenty drivers were covered by less than a second in qualifying, and while it's not always easy to pass, the cars are big and designed to tolerate wheel-to-wheel racing - unlike the WTCC cars, which tend to break if you look at them funny.
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Cheers... I seen a fair bit of V8 Supercars on Motors TV and agree, it's a great championship with some amazing tracks.
I was wanted to go see some racing in person though, I love sitting in general admission with a few beers, a picnic and just enjoying the sun
Unfortunately, there aren't really any tracks near Munich (I want to go and come back in the same day) and the only event which was DTM in Olympia park was cancelled this year 
Shame really, seems north Germany gets the share of races!
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Avoid WTCC like the plague. It makes a mockery of not only touring cars, but motorsport. The organisation, structure, marketing, competition, grids, driving standards... it's all way off. Especially for what should fly the world flag for touring cars.
BTCC is near as can be perfect at the minute. In my opinion, it's the best race series in the world.
BTCC is near as can be perfect at the minute. In my opinion, it's the best race series in the world.
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I honestly don't mind WTCC, it can occasionally bring some great racing, but BTCC beats it hands down.
Speaking of WTCC, here are the races from Paul Ricard if anyone's interested:
Speaking of WTCC, here are the races from Paul Ricard if anyone's interested:
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Is the weekend for the Norisring races no good for you? Nuremburg is an hour and a half away from you by train or by car. Good opportunity to see DTM, the F3 euroseries, Carrera Cup and last year they had a historic car race, though I'm not sure if there will be one this year.I was wanted to go see some racing in person though, I love sitting in general admission with a few beers, a picnic and just enjoying the sun
Shame really, seems north Germany gets the share of races!
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Cool, completely forgot Norisring was in Nuremberg... only an hour and half from me too.
Will look into that asap, seems DTM goes there in June. Appears to be a grandstand only circuit, as opposed to general admission, but I guess that's expected from a street circuit.
Nostalgia trip... last ever DTM race I saw live was at the now banned Avus ring in Berlin. We were sat in the crowd where (i forget his name)'s Opel Kalibra rear ended the barriers and exploded in a fireball. Everyone thought he was dead.
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Sounds like a pipe dream to me - a last-ditch effort to give the series credibility. You know it's bad when the "World" championship is upstaged by half a dozen domestic series. I'm sure we'd all prefer to see the BTCC, V8 Supercars, DTM and EuroV8 before the WTCC.
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