Toyota Supra (A90)

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Again, the hilarity of making a burner account to continue circlejerking about how much the A90 sucks from A80 forums and comment sections, continually showing your ass and how little you know against people who actually work in the industry, or are adjacent to it, and how much of your knowledge is blinded by pure, raw tribalism, bouncing off for months, and then coming back to try and stoke the fires again, is not lost on me.

Unfortunately, as long as this thread exists, we'll have more stepping on rakes from some to sustain us over the long winter.
 
Dan
Imagine still being this mad about a car you’ll never be able to afford.
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Even if they can afford the car, they don't have to if they hate it. No one is forcing them to buy the car. But I guess some people need a hobby, and apparently bitching about some car they don't need to afford is a hobby.
 
Have not seen any of these on the road yet, only on trailers and in showrooms. I still think the price (66k CDN here) is a little steep compared to other cars like this you can get. Jalopnik says that they aren’t exactly flying out of the showrooms in the US either.

For me there is a big question mark about the long term reliability of these things. BMW (or any German manufacturer these days) is not known for reliability. I know from experience :lol:
 
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In the past 2 weeks, I finally saw an A90 for the first time, it doesn't look too bad in real life. Still think it would've looked better without the nose though.
 
This is the cheapest one for sale in Australia:
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I've seen a few on the road and I'm not really impressed, It's completely priced out younger people from getting it(every single person I have seen that was driving it was older then 50).

I think the Smaller 2L couldn't come sooner but I still think that is going to be still too expensive for the main type of audience that would buy it.

I think this would of been much Better had Toyota teamed up with Nissan on a Platform share with a New Z car, the price would of been much better.
 
That price lol, then again everything is more expensive in Australia no? I'd be interested to see what it's competitors are priced at.

This comment on the jalopnik article I was talking about is pretty spot on for me.

I think the problem here is that you can’t actually market this thing to people who don’t know about cars. There’s no wool-pulling. It’s not like the Urus (I finally have an excuse to drive a Lambo!) or some heritage-laden tweedmobile (Careful with the Jag, darling).

Lots of car names became famous to normies for whatever reason. But the Supra wasn’t one of them. It became famous, but only among gearheads. It’s famous for being a driver’s car, for being tunable, for the F&F credit.

So this whole crowd already knows what this car should be, compared to what it is. Dumping the manual and farming everything out to BMW sure makes business sense, but gearheads aren’t swayed by Toyota’s business sense. And gearheads are the only ones who would’ve bought this car anyway. The normies will get a C8 or a Porsche or something.

So according to the article there are over 650 new Supras sitting in showrooms in the US. That's just what autotrader shows anyways, not every dealer uses autotrader. For reference, they only brought 1500 or so over iirc, that's not good.
 
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MikeV27
That price lol, then again everything is more expensive in Australia no? I'd be interested to see what it's competitors are priced at.

This comment on the jalopnik article I was talking about is pretty spot on for me.

I think the problem here is that you can’t actually market this thing to people who don’t know about cars. There’s no wool-pulling. It’s not like the Urus (I finally have an excuse to drive a Lambo!) or some heritage-laden tweedmobile (Careful with the Jag, darling).

Lots of car names became famous to normies for whatever reason. But the Supra wasn’t one of them. It became famous, but only among gearheads. It’s famous for being a driver’s car, for being tunable, for the F&F credit.

So this whole crowd already knows what this car should be, compared to what it is. Dumping the manual and farming everything out to BMW sure makes business sense, but gearheads aren’t swayed by Toyota’s business sense. And gearheads are the only ones who would’ve bought this car anyway. The normies will get a C8 or a Porsche or something.
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The Supra Rivals the High Spec Landcruiser's in Australia as the most expensive Toyota, It's way too expensive for what it is.
 
Here in Canada you can get a new Challenger with just as many bells and whistles, almost 500hp and a manual transmission for 10k less than a Supra. Not that i’d advise getting anything made by FCA, just using that as an example.

I know it's a BMW parts bin car, but it's not really a good deal even at MSRP. A used GTR is more appealing to me, and arguably a better deal.

Also looking forward to seeing how quickly these depreciate after a few years. Toyota is normally one of the better manufacturers for this but this also isn’t really a Toyota per se. BMW’s don’t hold their value very well iirc.
 
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And this is why I wish we could buy cars directly from manufacturers instead of going through scumbag dealerships.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
Saw one today in San Francisco. I wasn't blown away, but it looks interesting. I can't get excited about the Supra.
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It's a weird one. I've had several opportunities to drive them now, and each time I enjoy it but also have no real desire for one. Boring as it is I'd be one of those people who'd instead spend similar money on a Cayman. Or over here, an Alpine.
 
Yeah, the price is too much. $80k would have been just about what the S2000 and 370Z were when new. Now, a Z, even a Nismo can be had for about $60k->under.

It'll come alive in a few years when prices drop.
 
Grandea GTR
the A90 is being price gouged from hell to back, Toyota of Dallas over here has one for FRIGGIN $90k+!!!!
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The worst offender is Toyota of Grapevine's being listed at $211,932.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=533337163&zip=75087&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=75087&startYear=2020&sortBy=derivedpriceDESC&incremental=all&firstRecord=0&marketExtension=on&modelCodeList=SUPRA&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&searchRadius=0&startYear=2020&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=SUPRA&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=TOYOTA&modelCode1=SUPRA&digitalRetail=true&clickType=listing

In case anyone's wondering what you're actually getting for that, I ran the VIN through regional inventory: it's a base model with only driver's assist package & connectivity kit, rear cargo mat, Supra Protection Package: $52,983. Not a Premium model, no navigation option checked.
 

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