Tsukuba 9 Hours...What to replace it with.

[adam46]

Okay so I have seen a fair bit of hate for spending 9 Hours on the Tsukuba Circuit. I can understand this as I find it very boring. I have been puzzling over which tracks could replace it...

Perhaps there could be a third 24 Hour race now we have mid-race saves? And if we are going to do that, I believe it should be Spa; therefore the game would possess the three biggest 24hr races in the world. Maybe a 9 hour race at Monza? The return of a fictional circuit omitted from the GT5 track list?

I've always liked the idea of Trial Mountain or Deep Forest replacing the compact Japanese circuit...

Let me know what you'd like to see, maybe they might listen to us! (Doubtful)

 

[Earth]

I believe the Daytona 24 hours is bigger then the Spa 24. I would like to see both 24 hour races in the next game, though.

To be honest I wouldnt mind the 9 hours of Tsukuba returning if we get a couple of upgrades in gameplay. A larger grid of 24+ cars would keep the small track interesting, as you would almost always be battling traffic. Also allowing us to race with 2-3 B-Spec drivers would dramatically cut down the amount of time we need to drive.

If I had to replace the 9hrs with a similar event, I would replace it with a 6 hour day into night 600pp road car race at Fuji where the AI uses high end or heavily modified Japanese sports cars

 

[MoLiEG]

Bathurst 1000km

24hrs SPA

24hrs Daytona

60 laps @ Special Stage Route 11 (miss that one from GT3)

2hrs Trial Mountain Enduro with 500pp stock cars (a mix between the Trial Mountain Enduro from GT2 and GT3)

 

[Tornado]

What should replace the Tsukuba 9 hour race? A much better designed version of the Tsukuba 9 hour race. Preferably on the full course for at least some sort of variety.



And that goes for all of the enduros.

 

[Phoenix]

24 hours of Dubai. (I wish).
24 hours of Bathurst. (I hope).

But 24 hours of Spa would be great. Daytona 24 hours would be great too.

Also, no more 9 hours of Tsukuba, but rather say 8-12 hours of any longer tracks. Laguna Seca as an example.

 

[adam46]

What should replace the Tsukuba 9 hour race? A much better designed version of the Tsukuba 9 hour race. Preferably on the full course for at least some sort of variety.



And that goes for all of the enduros.

Full course? I thought that was the longest configuration?

McSoap; I agree, the circuit is far to short.

 

[MoLiEG]

Full course? I thought that was the longest configuration?

Wait, there is a longer Tsukuba course???

 

[Phoenix]

Wait, there is a longer Tsukuba course???

Yes, you can include turn 14 aswell.

 

[adam46]

Wait, there is a longer Tsukuba course???

This is what I am asking Toronado...

EDIT: Oh the motorcycle chicane from Tourist Trophy

 

[Fastcarguy]

What should replace the Tsukuba 9 hour race? A much better designed version of the Tsukuba 9 hour race. Preferably on the full course for at least some sort of variety.



And that goes for all of the enduros.

Im pretty sure the Tsukuba circuit in the game is the full course. Its a small track

 

[adam46]

Im pretty sure the Tsukuba circuit in the game is the full course. Its a small track

A quick scan on Google Maps and that looks to be the case. As the map above shows there is a small extra chicane but that would make little difference.

 

[Dean]

On the FIA WEC website I found:
12 Hours of Sebring,
6 Hours of Silverstone
6 Hours of Spa-Francorchamps
6 Hours of Sao Paulo
6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas
6 Hours of Fuji
6 Hours of Shanghai
and 6 Hours of Bahrain.

All can be raised (/lowered) to 9, 12 or 24 hours or lowered to 4 (and 6).

There's lots of possibilities!

 

[Tornado]

A quick scan on Google Maps and that looks to be the case. As the map above shows there is a small extra chicane but that would make little difference.

Makes a pretty big difference when you drive it for 3 laps; nevermind 4 hours of droning around in Miatas for the first race or 5 hours of driving it in the X1 for the second.

 

[adam46]

Maybe try and keep it to existing tracks, I don't see Circuit of the Americas, Sao Paulo, Shanghai, Bahrain and co. being modelled for GT in the short or long term...

 

[Dean]

Maybe try and keep it to existing tracks, I don't see Circuit of the Americas, Sao Paulo, Shanghai, Bahrain and co. being modelled for GT in the short or long term...

I was just listing possibilities, but okay . To be honest, all world circuits can be used for an endurance.

 

[MeanElf]

I think the idea of Tsukuba is fine, just the fact that we get it every time (well, in the three GT games I've played and it was there twice in GT4!) I'd like Eiger Nordwand as it's similar in complexity and length - though I'm not sure how we'd all cope with the weird pit lanes that are almost half as long as the track.

 

[05XR8]

Time(noon-9pm)/weather change and several classes & higher number of cars would spice up the 9 hours race.

 

[adam46]

Makes a pretty big difference when you drive it for 3 laps; nevermind 4 hours of droning around in Miatas for the first race or 5 hours of driving it in the X1 for the second.

It does make the track a few seconds longer per lap but it is still a boring track in my opinion. I'd prefer 9 hours at Spa, Trial Mountain, Deep Forest, Autumn Ring or Monza personally... And that's only from the tracks included in GT5; It'd be a very long list if they brought back the likes of Seattle or El Captain...

 

[05XR8]

Id go for 9 hours at Spa if tsukuba was to be replaced. 9hours of Fuji would look good from midday to night. What ever we get for short enduros, there is no excuse not to have time change.

 

[Samus]

Anything. Anything but 600 laps at Tsukuba.

 

[Aquarelle]

Adding the chicane would improve it but it's still going to be dull at the end of the day.

I'd pick 12 hours of Sebring, 1000 km of Okayama or Fuji 1000 km instead any day of the week though.

 

[doyley101]

25 hours of Spa fun cup, where everyone races in vw beetles! (Seriously, its awesome)
There is also the Monza 1000km and most major gt championships have 3hr races as a norm, so it could really be where ever you want.

 

[Samus]

I just hope that all of the endurance races get an overhaul. With so many tracks and possible combinations how many more games are we going to run the 300km of GV or 200 miles of Laguna Seca, even in the same sort of cars?

It makes sense in the real world because they race as part of an ongoing series/championship, GT games essentially start the GT 'world' from fresh with each game though so there is no need to run the same races each game. There is certainly no logical reason for using one of the shortest tracks in the game TWICE for an endurance race when you only have nine overall.

 

[05XR8]

True that. GV 300km had us using GT500 and GT300 machines. Made it challenging. Bring that back
We have all these LeMans cars and they should be used to full effect at Leguna Seca, Fuji, Rome...

 

[Samus]

It was also quite astonishing that Kaz himself runs in the real 24 Hrs of Nurburgring, he knows exactly what type of cars run in it and then when does he do for the game? Has us needing to run an LMP1 car or similar in the race to win it. Truly baffling.

Ideally in GT6 the endurance races will have up to 32 cars and will have true multiclass racing. You can therefore enter in a lower class, win that class and claim the gold trophy without actually finishing 1st overall. That straight away gives you two or three ways to do the race, even replay it if you so desire but they should absolutely not force you to NEED to win overall.

But I really don't have faith in them doing anything of the sort unfortunately.

 

[proud aussie]

24h at bathurst

24h at spa

 

[05XR8]

It was also quite astonishing that Kaz himself runs in the real 24 Hrs of Nurburgring, he knows exactly what type of cars run in it and then when does he do for the game? Has us needing to run an LMP1 car or similar in the race to win it. Truly baffling.

Ideally in GT6 the endurance races will have up to 32 cars and will have true multiclass racing. You can therefore enter in a lower class, win that class and claim the gold trophy without actually finishing 1st overall. That straight away gives you two or three ways to do the race, even replay it if you so desire but they should absolutely not force you to NEED to win overall.

But I really don't have faith in them doing anything of the sort unfortunately.

Agree 2x

 

[dalhMSP96]

I miss All Night Endurance in the original SSR11 from GT1

 

[ShiftingGears]

I wouldn't mind 2-hour races at Cape Ring, Eiger Nordwand Short Track, and maybe a 60-90 minute race at Rome. 30 Laps of Trial Mountain from GT2 was fun, but with so few new original circuits it would be nice to see them utilised rather than seeing the same overly familiar events.

The huge gap in race times from regular events (probably 15-20 minutes max) to endurance events (minimum 90 minutes) needs to be addressed.

That, and unless you tune your car just enough so that the racing is extremely close, endurance races are a complete chore. I enjoyed GT2 Endurance races because of the elastic AI and the 2-hour maximum time. I think the AI really needs to be fixed before PD decides more 9 hour races should be implemented.

 

[Samus]

I remember as a kid the 2 hour endurance at Rome seemed like such a long time. It was so good when it was finally over though and you actually got a really good prize car. Made it worth it.