TVR Speed 12 And Wheel Spin

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Hello all

I am currently on the last race of the Super Car race in the professional hall driving a TVR Speed 12.

Anyway, the races are very close, even thou I have over 800ps! The speed 12 wheel spins all the way up to 4th gear! How can I stop this? Better tyres??

You must be able to use all that power more efficiently? I'm not sure, please post suggestions, ideas.

PS. Comments can be about stabalizing any car and not just the speed 12, thanks.

PPS. I have played with my Logitic Pro Force so much my left palm as swollen up!
 
GeeUK
Hello all

I am currently on the last race of the Super Car race in the professional hall driving a TVR Speed 12.

Anyway, the races are very close, even thou I have over 800ps! The speed 12 wheel spins all the way up to 4th gear! How can I stop this? Better tyres??

You must be able to use all that power more efficiently? I'm not sure, please post suggestions, ideas.

PS. Comments can be about stabalizing any car and not just the speed 12, thanks.

PPS. I have played with my Logitic Pro Force so much my left palm as swollen up!
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have u noticed the dualshock 2 controller?
 
You could always lengthen out your lower gears so that they aren't putting as much power to your wheels... this will also have the added benefit of increasing maximum speed...

Increasing Downforce on the car & Putting on stickier tyres will also increase grip too.

TCS should be added as a last resort I think.

C.
 
smellysocks12
Or learn to deal with it and don't slam the gas pedal when in a corner.
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Exactly....Learning to gradually accelerate is a huge benefit in cornering exit speeds, avoiding wheelspin, ect. It takes some practice but can be mastered. Harder in close races because you just want to mash it... :-)

So did PD insert some type of acceleration guage at the bottom of the screen this time?
 
Hi GeeUK

The only answer to this is throttle modulation.

The Speed 12 has mind bending torque in the real world and will spin-up the rear wheels all the way through the box if you're too lead-footed.

Go easy on the petrol-tap and, hopefully, you should find that the problem disappears with practice. If it doesn't, then PD have sadly failed once again to properly model cars that don't follow the 'high revs, low torque' pattern of Japanese engined vehicles.

Anyhow, how come you have GT4 already when the release date isn't for a couple of weeks :jealous:!?
 
jake11375
Exactly....Learning to gradually accelerate is a huge benefit in cornering exit speeds, avoiding wheelspin, ect. It takes some practice but can be mastered. Harder in close races because you just want to mash it... :-)

So did PD insert some type of acceleration guage at the bottom of the screen this time?
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Yes and No...

Driving better is only half of the equation... if you can drive well on a poorly setup car then you will still be the same speed as driving poorly on a well setup machine...

Pair a well setup car and a good driver and they will be the fastest thing since sliced bread.

C.
 
yeti
Pair a well setup car and a good driver and they will be the fastest thing since sliced bread.
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Like Ferrari / Schumacher...



Usually I just leave the stock settings in previous GT's. I don't know enough about what the changes to springs do, and what might be good for one track in a new set up, might be crappy for the next...
 
I use a fully modded M3 CSL with a round 500++hp and won the series easily.

Too much power ain't good because you can't use race tyres in the series.
 
smellysocks12
Or learn to deal with it and don't slam the gas pedal when in a corner.
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OK, I'll deal with this when I get the PAL version, as I dont understand all the japanese text to be changing settings.

Oh and it wheel spins all the way from 1st to 4th gear! This is with traction control on BTW.
 
GeeUK
OK, I'll deal with this when I get the PAL version, as I dont understand all the japanese text to be changing settings.

Oh and it wheel spins all the way from 1st to 4th gear! This is with traction control on BTW.
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That car is a beast to drive at first. As far as the japanese, goto the sticky at the top titled look here before asking. Maskrider translated almost every screen for us. 👍 Also, goto the GT3 forums here and under the setup subforum, there's a great sticky thread explaining what each part and adjustment does. I think to learn to tune, you should practice on a normal car that isn't so fast, the adjustments are easier to tweak and you feel the changes better on a slow car than a fast one at first.

TCS is really needed on this car unless you have wheel and pedals to help with throttle control. Since your from the UK, if you remember when clarkson drove the koenigsigg, he jokes about how the car is hell to drive with it on, and there is no way he would try it with it off.
 
Ah, the Beast...One of my favorite cars in GT2. Here's the deal, at least with the settings for GT2. I ran the tranny tuner slider all the way to the right. I put the downforce to the highest settings, and I kept my suspension settings about 3/4 tight.

The Beast will eat any gear below 4th, so you just have to run them way high.

The Beast is tameable, it just takes a good ring leader and a strong whip ;)

BTW, are we going to have some kind of sub forum for tuning some of the various cars that need tweaking like the Beast and the GT40 ( from another thread ) ?
 
Thats just the car being very very very realistic!! IF youve ever seen a Speed 12 (Race verison or even more rare the road version), they do literally spin the wheels in every gear when accelerating hard. And as everyone has said, you just have to feed the throttle in when accelerating.

Peter Wheeler even said about the Speed 12 that he took one of the road models home one day and before hed got 100 yards away from the gates, he knew it was too much for the road! Did anyone know that the engine actually broke TVR's 1000bhp Dyno!!! And so the 800Bhp it has in GT is a bit conservative...but the racecars "only" had 600bhp....so there we go!!
 
I know a lot about the Speed 12 mate, the car broke the dyno at 800Bhp due to the torque I think, it still had a couple of thousand rpm to go for peak power and when they worked out what the engine untuned would have made ie 2 inline six's it was 960Bhp, so what you can work out about the Speed 12's power is that it's OVER 960Bhp, 1100Bhp is probably close to the real figure, and in a car that weighs only 1 ton. There was an article on it in EVO a good while back, great read. I've got a vid somewhere on my HDD of the old Speed 12 with Jerremy Clarkson talking about it being set to break every record for speed, JC wasn't the one driving it though. I believe the Cerbera Speed 12 GTS cars had upto 660Bhp, the Speed 12 that raced in the GT1 class is rumoured to have had 880Bhp, the reason that one never wen't to LeMansis because THEN it would've been restricted to 600 or so Bhp which TVR didn't want.
 
And of course in the real world it doesn't have traction control.

Resume soiling of undergarments... now.
 
live4speed
I know a lot about the Speed 12 mate, the car broke the dyno at 800Bhp due to the torque I think, it still had a couple of thousand rpm to go for peak power and when they worked out what the engine untuned would have made ie 2 inline six's it was 960Bhp, so what you can work out about the Speed 12's power is that it's OVER 960Bhp, 1100Bhp is probably close to the real figure, and in a car that weighs only 1 ton. There was an article on it in EVO a good while back, great read. I've got a vid somewhere on my HDD of the old Speed 12 with Jerremy Clarkson talking about it being set to break every record for speed, JC wasn't the one driving it though. I believe the Cerbera Speed 12 GTS cars had upto 660Bhp, the Speed 12 that raced in the GT1 class is rumoured to have had 880Bhp, the reason that one never wen't to LeMansis because THEN it would've been restricted to 600 or so Bhp which TVR didn't want.
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i have the actual Clarckson video its called" The most outrageous jeremy clarkson video in the world.....ever!" that is honestly what its called LOL, great vid though he tests all the top top supercars like the mac f1, buggati, ferrari f40 and the original gt40 which he loved! the speed 12 just sounds so good, i for one cant wait too drive it in gt4
 
Famine
And of course in the real world it doesn't have traction control.

Resume soiling of undergarments... now.
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Thats right, the Speed 12 has no traction control, ABS, stability control, airbags, it does have a rather large rollcage for you to squeeze through when you get in or out of the car though. And the single road going model that was sold ended up being bought by a member of The Prodigy (the drummer I think) for £155,000.
 
Yeah I think it ended up going for £155,000 though in the end. Not many people wanted "death on wheels".
 
akak
i have the actual Clarckson video its called" The most outrageous jeremy clarkson video in the world.....ever!" that is honestly what its called LOL, great vid though he tests all the top top supercars like the mac f1, buggati, ferrari f40 and the original gt40 which he loved! the speed 12 just sounds so good, i for one cant wait too drive it in gt4
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Where can one find this video?
 
Everyone who said lengthening the gear ratios, I agree! That used to be the quickest way to soften a hard-hitting car. If that just doesn't work, you can always do what I did with the old Vipers... Tap the X button instead of mashing it down. By rapidly tapping it, you are effectively becoming traction control. This does not take a lot of practice and you should be able to completely master the technique within a few laps.
 
i never tried that.might go have a look on gt3 since we dont get the game for 2-3 weeks but even when it does comes out becouse i go on camp the day after it comes out:mad:
 
Let the clutch out on a real Speed 12 in third and it sets off ok , only a little wheelspin , lol

Astonishing car , far too much power.
 

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