Update 1.09 what did it bring?

[RSnider]

Yeah I mean come on,. they were only hit with an earthquake than a title wave. Now they just got another earthquake last night. But god damn it update our racer!

Title waves. Would that be a giant wave of book titles or magazine titles? Or perhaps professional titles?

 

[Tornado]

I suppose it would make cars of which are supposed to be rare, rare again.

That and it'll refresh the community in my opinion.

I think some perspective is needed once again.

You what it didn't bring?!? I'll tell you, an end to that song with those bastard children singing online.

Yes yes, I understand the tragedy going on. Just needed to vent as I just heard that damn song once again

Ironically, that is the only song in the entire soundtrack (Premium Dealership tunes excepting) that I find tolerable.

 

[buickgnx88]

Ya'll need to get a life and stop bashing on hurt people over there. They have lives an are doing the best they can. Get over it, you lost your precious glitch. Next time kids, play the game right and maybe you'll get something out of it.

I'm against these in race saves, it's an endurance race, that's what it is. Not an endurance race if you get back to it another day.

You guys need to suck it up and realize that they can't do everything. Thank-you and have a good day.


Rant over.

I'm playing the game "right" and it's only so-so for me.

As for what you said about race saves, please show me a race where a person actually races the full 24 hours.

 

[arora]

I think some perspective is needed once again.

Not sure what that is about myself, I guess if you grind your way to buying a rare or expensive car you can go online and 'show off' or something? No one really cares what cars another owns though, or do they?

 

[Tower Turn 13]

I understand Japan is in a serious situation right now. No one is disparaging that fact. However.

PD: It's okay if you need time to come up with significant update material (saving in enduros is the only thing I can think of at this point). But PLEASE do not waste everyone's time with this fixing-glitch space-taking bullcrap. I don't want to sit through your updates for something so absolutely ridiculous. Save it for a big update as part of the package. You don't have time to come up with new stuff but yet you have time to play online-police? I don't think most people give a good crap about this update, and my relic PS3 doesn't have the space for a million updates that don't equate to anything.

Thanks. I'm done now

 

[Tower Turn 13]

I'm against these in race saves, it's an endurance race, that's what it is. Not an endurance race if you get back to it another day.

I agree with other stuff you said, however...why are you against an option that you could personally choose to use or not use? Just like PD are real people dealing with real life, so is everyone who plays their game. Some people who play GT5 are Japanese. So they should have to play for 24 hours straight to win fake money because you want them to? I guess I just don't understand the point.

It isn't an "endurance race" if you don't have a driving team or have to sit in the hundred-degree heat or if you'll never have electronic/engine problems that put you out of the race or if your life is never in danger at any point, and a million other things.

And also, most people I think are just pausing the game in the hours they can't race the enduros. You'd rather their PS3s have more time spinning the disk and heating up than just having the option to turn it off and lengthen the system life? Did you really sit through 24 hours straight of driving? Must be hard without other drivers to switch out with...which is unrealistic...

 

[2Fas4u]

It's just ridiculous how lazy PD is. Half the seasonal events have been there for 2 MONTHS. They could at least refresh the OCD.

Don't know if you heard but they had a little bit of an earthquake so there are a few minor issues they are trying to fix....

 

[winoman]

It's just ridiculous how lazy PD is. Half the seasonal events have been there for 2 MONTHS. They could at least refresh the OCD.

some people seem to belive that PD (and other game-companies) have robots working for them.
its not like their thinking: my grandmother died in the quake yesterday but screw that i need to update the seasonal events.

read the news because you have clearly missed what happend in japan not too long ago

 

[Downhill Dino]

The two people above need to realize that is has been said already, off that topic please before it goes farther or out of hand.

Onto in game saves...

Well I wouldn't mind having it in a championship but Endurance race no, sure I'd sit there for 24 hours racing like crazy. I don't pause the game, when I take a pits stop I use that time to go use the restroom. Did that in the Le Mans series.

I do see your point in the whole impossibly surviving car but let's just bring this to mind, "The Real Driving Simulator." Who said anything about racing?

And people with the whole "Don't bother with fixing the glitches" crap. This either means you glitched yourself or your expecting more out of a company under fire by mother nature. What are they supposed to do?! Really! Think! So just calm down, deal with it, and get on with your life. They're trying to give everyone an equal way of play. And don't respond by whining to me or to anyone else. Bring that somewhere else, like to yourself. Scream in a pillow or something.

 

[Elbowz_11]

Really don't know why PD has time to fix MONEY griding or time to take away our right to send whatever car we want to friends but NO time to add G27 support or bring tracks from the past back those tracks already exist not that hard..., who cares who has 20 million and who don't? People glitching does not affect anyone, ill say money glitches does open more doors to more people to buy better cars and compete online.

My 2 cents. (Don't care if anyone agrees or not)

 

[arora]

when I take a pits stop I use that time to go use the restroom. Did that in the Le Mans series.

TMI

You could use the pause function as the save though, except the ps3 has a reputation of short life span

And people with the whole "Don't bother with fixing the glitches" crap. This either means you glitched yourself or your expecting more out of a company

It should be patched as a priority, not to punish glitchers or any of that other nonsense, but simply because it is a flaw in the game. Aren't patches intended to fix flaws?

Expecting more, I guess that debends on what is asked for. I can see the gripes over wheel suport and things of that nature but not so much crying for new content etc.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Really don't know why PD has time to fix MONEY griding or time to take away our right to send whatever car we want to friends but NO time to add G27 support or bring tracks from the past back those tracks already exist not that hard..., who cares who has 20 million and who don't? People glitching does not affect anyone, ill say money glitches does open more doors to more people to buy better cars and compete online.

My 2 cents. (Don't care if anyone agrees or not)

I must comment...

I don't know of anything about the wheels but taking a track from GT4 and getting into and upgrading it in GT5 would take alot longer then just a month. Things don't just happen. Unless you have a some magical wishing object.

Evenually things will be upgraded. But this is a game to last years and your bored already? You want more? We just can't go with the limits can we? A problem these days.

I'm going to stop with possible negative comments now unless provoked.

 

[DaveS1138]

You could use the pause function as the save though, except the ps3 has a reputation of short life span

No it doesn't.

 

[Camphaus]

Big picture folks, raise your hand if you chose the PS3 over some of the other offerings out there because of the anticipation of GT5? I'm sure you also know that the PS3 has been getting it's butt kicked on the market. So a lot more than your 'wheel' compatibility or what update fixed what glitch or the endless b-spec rants (hey, I don't much like it either) is riding on the success of this 'game'. And this is the marquee game series for the playstation.

Think of it this way if you would. How many people (in the States, sorry for the rest of you folks) ever heard of a Skyline, or an Evo, WRX STI...before Gran Turismo came out? If not for GT, the Nissan GT-R isn't released in the states, you'd have never seen an Evo or WRX other than in the movies or motorsports. I think Ferarri finally figured that out, hopefully one day Porsche will remove there heads from they're nether regions and get onboard too.

These issues will be fixed, I'm certain of it, in due time.

My two cents...

 

[arora]

No it doesn't.

I didn't say the ps3 has a short life span, I said it has a reputation

 

[Downhill Dino]

What about if you got GT5 becuase you love the series?

I'm in the States and knew of all the japanese cars before playing any gran turismo game. Or any silly NFS game.

 

[Limelight788]

Doesn't look as if there's anything else aside from the glitch fix. At least the OCD was updated, so I'll give a full list once I play it again (Or not if someone else beats me to the punch). Meanwhile, this thread is turning into a pile of mud.

First thing I want to say, I am not in approval of marchi being reported. This isn't behaving with profanity nor with hateful/abusive manner. All he was doing was expressing his frustration toward the Gran Turismo fanbase in a relatively mature fashion, which I can understand his viewpoint (Although I don't agree that complaining about the game means they're selfish). And being reported twice? Is it seriously that bad of a post? This has been the worst justification for reporting someone that I've seen. This thread has far worse posts then that and breaks the rules even worse.

I pushed a X2010 RedBull through 2 different spots on La Sarthe today.

Problem is to find a path from there to startline.

1. End of long straight.

2. A bit before Startline there is a fast right turn, if you go straight out in that turn, wall is soft, tarmac all the way to the wall (left side of sandtrap).

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If this glitch starts to receive widespread attention, the blame is entirely on you. In the thread, you'll most certainly be called out for.

YES! I have never glitched in any previous GT game, and I don't wish to glitch in this one either.

But to get my collection of 4000+ cars (1160 atm) i need to glitch. The tool we had at launch that made collecting possible without wallbreaking was taken from us, this is all that is left to do (impossible with normal gameplay).

And no i won't settle for a lesser car collection than i have planned for 6+ years now (if we get the duping tools back, I go for 6000 cars instead of current goal of 4000).

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I just wish more people would support the collectors/glitchers, so they don't patch the only chance we have to make our beautiful art.

It's not a necessity to glitch to get 4,000 cars at all, all you need is patience and to race a lot. Honestly, even if you didn't glitch, if you were to play it for hours daily, you'd probably still reach your limit. It does not require glitching, just lots of time. I also don't see how glitchers make beautiful arts when all you're doing is exposing holes in the game that Polyphony didn't have time to look over.

No, a good game is because of good content. If GT5 had good content, there be few to none glitchers at all.

Glitches or glitching players don't break a game, but lack of content does.

I'm calling foul on this. Terrible glitches have killed many game's quality and even made them infamous for their low quality. And glitching players can most certainly kill a game. Look at The Conduit for the Nintendo Wii. When I first started playing, it was one of the best online experience the Wii had to offer. Today, it is hacker hell and the online is completely ruined, as is the reason to play the game. The game lost value because of the glitches, not because High Voltage Software didn't produce good contents.

Kaz did say roughly, if the fans want a new track we can make it, so why not a new track in next patch?

I believe they're trying to get the features they promised in before focusing on DLC. Until then, I'm willing to wait for new tracks.

I still believe we should have standard cars to premium, more tracks and more content.

Do you hear us PD? Have you been listening at all?

Not sure why you think they've been completely ignoring us. Thanks to the patches, we have Remote races, better experience points reward, ability to earn credits online, use your custom tracks online, etc. Once the crisis in Japan is off the news page, we should see a huge patch giving us a lot of what we want.

Anyone know if they removed the trading limits and the Cr limit ?

Sadly no. Which is annoying because trading limits does not properly combat duping (And only ends up angering it's fans) and a credit limit has no purpose whatsoever aside from confirming that you will get a "Penniless" trophy once you reach that amount of cash.

You are joking? Right? With an A-spec as short as this you expect the game to last 2-3 years? TBH it's a miracle there's anyone who hasn't finished it by now.

Game is still selling, so I highly doubt everyone has finished up A-Spec by now.

First off, there's more to the game then A-spec. Secondly, the gold of the game is not to finish A-spec, but to collect cars, complete everything (Not just A-Spec), and for the game to provide you a realistic, yet fun racing experience. There are many more things to do then just A-Spec.

I'm curious, what is your definition of finishing the game? If it's just completing A-Spec, then of course it's going to feel short. My definition is getting 100% in the game.

Hoping for the best for Japan. So we get an update that stops a glitch. Either you do the glitch or you don't, but don't tell me how to play my game. There is absolutely now way how I play my game ever will affect the way you play your game. SERIOUSLY if your worried about other people glitching GET A LIFE!!!! ITS just a damn game. For people that don't like the glitch DON'T GLITCH! Spend your whole life in a game that try's to be real instead of living in the real world?? You go GT5 purist oh and get a life! I don't care what you do with your game, cheat, burn it, stare at it, do what ever I don't care!!! SO QUIT CARING WHAT OTHERS DO WITH THERE GAME!!!! Didn't Japan just have an earthquake and they got time to do patches?? hmm do they really have there priorities straight???? PEOPLE IT"S JUST A GAME with flaws like everyone. Deal with it. And if you don't like it don't play it, I DON'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO that's what your mommy's for!!!

Not a mature way to deal with the situation at all. We've heard the same thing from both the fanboys and the complainers. We certainly don't need all caps words in excessive uses like this.

I never thought I would see a forum that would tell people to "get a life" so many times as I have seen with this forum just on this game. It's getting old and it doesn't make you look like a superstar.

 

[HKS racer]

But this is a game to last years and your bored already?

Yes I am.

You want more?

Of course.

We just can't go with the limits can we?

No we can't. GT5 lacks of all those features and options needed for a game with 1000 cars, there is no chance to create your own custom events, no chance the AI will mach your tuned road car performances in arcade mode, no chance to save during championship, no chance to race a decent SuperGT championship, (not those 3 races of the career mode, a joke). No chance to race against a decent AI if you don't remove 100hp from your car and use comfort soft. There are no more Manifacture events like in GT4. They removed the 3 setup slots from GT5p. There are not enough rally tracks, not enough scenarios for the custom tracks. Not enough Premium Race Cars, a lack of GT cars, only Corvette, Ford GT and Pagani Zonda R, a lack of RM cars. At the moment GT5 is a mess of everything and nothing. There are no options, no features, only take your car and race against whatever the AI come up with... you could find yourself in a SuperGT against a Jaguar from the 60' ... awesome, a real simulation, yeah.

 

[Nokkien]

I'm calling foul on this. Terrible glitches have killed many game's quality and even made them infamous for their low quality. And glitching players can most certainly kill a game. Look at The Conduit for the Nintendo Wii. When I first started playing, it was one of the best online experience the Wii had to offer. Today, it is hacker hell and the online is completely ruined, as is the reason to play the game. The game lost value because of the glitches, not because High Voltage Software didn't produce good contents.

Why do you bring hackers to the table here, hacking is a security risk and need to be taken actions against, glitching is childplay goofing around, and none of my glitching friends want to do harm in any form. I can not take you serious on the matter, anyhow ......


I just went throught the wall on Nurburgring once again. Good job PD.
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[Tornado]

This isn't behaving with profanity nor with hateful/abusive manner. All he was doing was expressing his frustration toward the Gran Turismo fanbase in a relatively mature fashion

Yeah, no:

Ungrateful pricks.

And being reported twice? Is it seriously that bad of a post? This has been the worst justification for reporting someone that I've seen.

Yes. "I agree with his points" does not mean that his points were carried in a way that was appropriate for GTP. And if calling people "ungrateful pricks" who should "pull [their] heads out of [their] arses" is terrible justification to you for reporting someone, I'd really like to know what you think is good justification. And I really hope your standard isn't "I agree with them, so they shouldn't be reported."

This thread has far worse posts then that and breaks the rules even worse.

Then report them.

If this glitch starts to receive widespread attention, the blame is entirely on you. In the thread, you'll most certainly be called out for.

Boo hoo.

It's not a necessity to glitch to get 4,000 cars at all, all you need is patience and to race a lot. Honestly, even if you didn't glitch, if you were to play it for hours daily, you'd probably still reach your limit. It does not require glitching, just lots of time.

That's nice that you have the time to play the game in the poorly designed way that it was intended.

I also don't see how glitchers make beautiful arts when all you're doing is exposing holes in the game that Polyphony didn't have time to look over.

I have to imagine that the people playing the game the way they want don't care.

I'm calling foul on this. Terrible glitches have killed many game's quality and even made them infamous for their low quality. And glitching players can most certainly kill a game. Look at The Conduit for the Nintendo Wii. When I first started playing, it was one of the best online experience the Wii had to offer. Today, it is hacker hell and the online is completely ruined, as is the reason to play the game. The game lost value because of the glitches, not because High Voltage Software didn't produce good contents.

This example would only be relevant if GT5 had glitches that were remotely comparable.

Game is still selling, so I highly doubt everyone has finished up A-Spec by now.

I hope this wasn't a serious argument.

I'm curious, what is your definition of finishing the game? If it's just completing A-Spec, then of course it's going to feel short.

And how is that not a problem?

Not a mature way to deal with the situation at all. We've heard the same thing from both the fanboys and the complainers. We certainly don't need all caps words in excessive uses like this.

Huge double standard here.

I never thought I would see a forum that would tell people to "get a life" so many times as I have seen with this forum just on this game. It's getting old and it doesn't make you look like a superstar.

It would help if he wasn't right. The self-righteousness held by some of the members on this forum is absolutely astounding.



tl;dr, you are trying to make it look like you are playing Devil's Advocate without actually playing Devil's Advocate.

 

[Xenn]

Am I the only one who noticed the automatic messages online don't appear anymore?

 

[Downhill Dino]

No we can't. GT5 lacks of all those features and options needed for a game with 1000 cars, there is no chance to create your own custom events, no chance the AI will mach your tuned road car performances in arcade mode, no chance to save during championship, no chance to race a decent SuperGT championship, (not those 3 races of the career mode, a joke). No chance to race against a decent AI if you don't remove 100hp from your car and use comfort soft. There are no more Manifacture events like in GT4. They removed the 3 setup slots from GT5p. There are not enough rally tracks, not enough scenarios for the custom tracks. Not enough Premium Race Cars, a lack of GT cars, only Corvette, Ford GT and Pagani Zonda R, a lack of RM cars. At the moment GT5 is a mess of everything and nothing. There are no options, no features, only take your car and race against whatever the AI come up with... you could find yourself in a SuperGT against a Jaguar from the 60' ... awesome, a real simulation, yeah.

Picky. Just play the damn game and that's where online racing comes in.

 

[sanmusa]

Just did my first B-Spec race since the update... anyone notice that Bob hasn't shaved?

 

[HKS racer]

Just play the damn game and that's where online racing comes in.

You can play this damn game, I got something better to do, PC Sim Racing have much more features than GT5. Poliphony don't have any idea of what a racing class is, Group C and LMP1 cars against GT cars all toghether and they call it "simulation"? Yeah a simulation of ignorance.

 

[xtexterx]

What I get tired of is the me! me! me! attitude of a lot of people here. It sounds like a bunch of cry babies.

+1:tup:

 

[Reaper2096]

what i dont understand is gtpsp has 830 tracks and what looks like all the track there has been on the gt series, but gt5 on the next generation daddy console gets 200 cars more, which only appear to be more skylines and civics. racing a-spec and b-spec modes that look as though they were created in an hour, lets face it here, a race is just parameters, these cars, this track, thats it. the a-spec seems to be mirrored in a way that puts us in the position where we have won 4 lupos do we need 4? we cant sell the cars to make money, we just need to endlessly grind. at leats the od seasonals with the high cash prize was worth it but a 24 hour indurance race to win 1800000 credits. (you can win 900000 in the dream car cup which takes an hour max) and a car that chances are you have bought already, take the fgt championship, 6 20 lap races for a caterham? dull.
plus how many tracks are we missing here? new york, capitan infineon, the two citta tracks, rally courses. the delership one make special events,
gt5 is an awesome game racing wise, its top notch. but everything else is bloody awfull, i know theres folk gonna start bashing this but it is, ive spent more time on this game than probably any other ps3 game i love it but i completed everything bar vettel challenge and the endurance races within a fortnight,
plus now if a friend buys the game its going to take him agesd to build the garage i have now, (legitimately i will add) but i cant even give him a lm racer to race online with me and my other mates because theres folk out there that have got pixelated cars in an imaginary world without ginding the same track on the same race day in day out to get a pittance of a prize in order to save for them and they are deemed to have gotten them unfairly.
but we have remote racing that we can leave on all day with automated programs to get us money without lifting a finger so whats getting stopped here? the ability to get cars without destroying your ps3 through over use?
fix the game, give us the tracks were missing, sort the shoddy graphics, fix the face the cpu cars still drive like their on rails. and give us back the game we paid for or sort the traiding.

 

[MadBullBunny]

I didn't say the ps3 has a short life span, I said it has a reputation

It doesn't have either of it. From what I learned over time reading posts and articles about the ps3, the failure rate is around 10%. Now you take away the percentage of the user being at fault for its errors then it would be around 3%. Also the error is fixable sometimes, but many don't bother too, don't know how too or owns ton load of money and already has 5 other ps3s... Other then that, as world wide as the ps3 is and as many households that hold a console(s), the failure rate is quite low. 👍 Sportin the launch 60gb and it runs just as strong as a brand new ps3 does.

 

[maxpontiac]

Yes I am.

Of course.

No we can't. GT5 lacks of all those features and options needed for a game with 1000 cars, there is no chance to create your own custom events, no chance the AI will mach your tuned road car performances in arcade mode, no chance to save during championship, no chance to race a decent SuperGT championship, (not those 3 races of the career mode, a joke). No chance to race against a decent AI if you don't remove 100hp from your car and use comfort soft. There are no more Manifacture events like in GT4. They removed the 3 setup slots from GT5p. There are not enough rally tracks, not enough scenarios for the custom tracks. Not enough Premium Race Cars, a lack of GT cars, only Corvette, Ford GT and Pagani Zonda R, a lack of RM cars. At the moment GT5 is a mess of everything and nothing. There are no options, no features, only take your car and race against whatever the AI come up with... you could find yourself in a SuperGT against a Jaguar from the 60' ... awesome, a real simulation, yeah.

You can play this damn game, I got something better to do, PC Sim Racing have much more features than GT5. Poliphony don't have any idea of what a racing class is, Group C and LMP1 cars against GT cars all toghether and they call it "simulation"? Yeah a simulation of ignorance.

You seriously need to move on from GT5. It obviously has had a negative effect on your life. You seem very angry.

 

[Limelight788]

Why do you bring hackers to the table here, hacking is a security risk and need to be taken actions against, glitching is childplay goofing around, and none of my glitching friends want to do harm in any form. I can not take you serious on the matter, anyhow ......


I just went throught the wall on Nurburgring once again. Good job PD.
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There are hackers in that game, but they are also present in Gran Turismo 5. I also brought it to the table because the hacks also abused the glitches in the game to their advantage, which contributed it to being ruined. The same can happen to this game as well.

Yeah, no:

Like I said, the way he used it was not what I would consider a hateful/abusive manner. IMO, a better example of the word being used in a abusive manner would be "Anyone who thinks that this is a good idea is a [REDACTED]." The way he uses it does not read as that, but more as a frustration.

Yes. "I agree with his points" does not mean that his points were carried in a way that was appropriate for GTP. And if calling people "ungrateful pricks" who should "pull [their] heads out of [their] arses" is terrible justification to you for reporting someone, I'd really like to know what you think is good justification. And I really hope your standard isn't "I agree with them, so they shouldn't be reported."

When did I ever say "I agree with his points"? The most I said was that I understood his viewpoint, which does not mean I entirely agree with it.

People frequently ask people/companies to pull their head out of their *****, this isn't something I consider an explicit rule violation. I've seen it quite a few times on this forum directed at Polyphony Digital and I haven't seen a person being reported for it.

As for good justifications, look at the example above this quote and similar examples (If you can't find it, I'll quote it, although it should be obvious). What can also be considered rule violations is turning a GT5/Polyphony Digital rant (Which I don't have a problem with) into a vicious attack on the fans who like the game calling their opinion automatically wrong and they themselves right. Trying to bring off-topic materials frequently and try to argue that as a supplement for why a game sucks to the point where it derails the thread is also what I consider a good justification for reporting someone.

That's nice that you have the time to play the game in the poorly designed way that it was intended.

I don't play Gran Turismo 5 every day for twelve hours a day. There are other things that I want to do and I am not just some lazy chum with no life whatsoever with no plans to improve himself. Yet I don't feel bored with GT5 because I play when I feel like it, not just to get something I want as quickly as possible. I'm suggesting to Nokkien that as long as he keeps playing the game, he will reach his goal of 4,000 cars. And considering that it's been almost six months and Nokkien has already gotten 1,160 cars, it's not unrealistic to expect that he can receive 4,000 cars within six years based on how much he has earned now. People play at different rates, it's only "poorly designed" if you force yourself on the TV screen to get a car you want.

This example would only be relevant if GT5 had glitches that were remotely comparable.

It is comparable. Glitches has hurt both The Conduit's and Gran Turismo 5's online experiences when present. Both games also have hackers, the former ruined by them and the other, hacking is getting started and can spread online pretty fast.

I hope this wasn't a serious argument.

I interpreted Betty_Swallocks's post as if he was mentioning anyone, so obviously, not everyone has finished up the game. He would also be wrong in saying that everyone in this forum has finished up the game already. I for one, am one of the person who have not finished up the game and still have about 30% of progress to go. I don't think everyone in this community has finished with the game.

And how is that not a problem?

Because there are other things to do in the game for fun that you can make progress in. In this game, not only do you have A-Spec and license, but also B-Spec, Special Events, Seasonal events, and online. It may not have a huge A-Spec, but the other factors of the game more then makes up for it. Even so, I don't consider A-Spec to be poor because I actually enjoyed all the A-Spec events in the game. In GT3 and GT4, there were events that I didn't care that much for and just wanted to get out of the way.

Huge double standard here.

It's not a double standard. marchi's post from my perspective falls under the AUP. The general tone I got from his post was that he was frustrated with how the community was acting despite the tsunami event and while I don't entirely agree with what he said, it is far from a hateful post. gt500all's general tone makes him sound immature and follows more of a "YOU SHOULDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT GLITCHERS!" post. I'm not saying that glitchers are selfish people who constantly moan about the game, that is not what I am saying, but as people have the right to complain about people complaining about the glitch, people also have the right to complain about glitchers.

It would help if he wasn't right. The self-righteousness held by some of the members on this forum is absolutely astounding.

There are a few people here with even less then a life then I do, but most of a "get a life" arguments is just trying to say that they're right in an argument and really doesn't indicate that it's that much of a problem. At least, that's what I've seen in the majority of "get a life" comments I've seen on the Internet.

tl;dr, you are trying to make it look like you are playing Devil's Advocate without actually playing Devil's Advocate.

I do not argue for the sake of arguing, I argue because if I want to say something, I have every right to use it, and I don't respond to everything in a thread, just those I think that are worthy of being mentioned.

 

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is gtplanet the debate club of the internet?? yes no maybe so. btw back up your answer with 6 page report, kthx. don't forget to use correct grammar.