US vs the world - hypothetical war

[Zardoz]

...Or howabout supply submarines with stealth? Transport submarines?...

Oh, sure, that's a practical solution. Cheap, too. There are plenty of governments out there with budgets that will handle little projects like that.

And I'm sure U.S. attack subs would be helpless to do anything about them...

 

[ledhed]

Sure I can see those defense budgets just reving up like crazy...especially in those socialist states that can afford to be socialist because they spend so little on defense by letting the US take care of it....Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaahahaha your all doomed ...bow down before the mighty B2 . Cringe mortals , in fear of cluster bomb hell ...... its headed to a theater near you .

 

[niky]

You're all doomed! Both sides! I've secretly implanted 10 kiloton nukes in every single jetliner in the world! And just to make sure they're effective, I've packed them in chicken feathers and guts from bird-flu infected chickens from China... (psst... Boss, won't the bombs just kill the virus) ...shut up fool, I'm enjoying the moment.

 

[Master_Yoda]

well letssee, in the US we have a crazy ass idiot from texas who wants to bomb the world.

MUHAHHAHAHAHAHHA DIE WORLD DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

o wait was that me? um US vs. the world? WTF!!!!11!!1!!!!!11 WITHE A EXTRA 1
i thought people from Texas would think that the US could take over the world

DID I MENTION THAT THERE ARE 12 ACTIVE NIKE ANT-AIR MISSLE SIGHTS??? get passed that bucko were inpinitrable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AK-47's FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!1@@!!!!

 

[Zardoz]

...DID I MENTION THAT THERE ARE 12 ACTIVE NIKE ANTI-AIR MISSILE SITES???...

You're all mixed up. You must be thinking of the Reebok missiles.

 

[Solid Fro]

I would like to see him try to find these "active" Nike sites. All of them have been decommissioned, made obsolete by the PATRIOT missile defense system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Nike

 

[Diego440]

That would be a good one... Texas vs. the US

 

[niky]

And Texas would be pretty hard to conquer... how many of our weapons systems are made/stored there? Remember the Alamo!

 

[Ghost C]

I think the important thing everyone fails to remember in this situation, is that the US doesn't care about invading anywhere else. All we have to do is sit back and defend. And when you try to launch an invasion force onto US soil, please remember that we have more firearms than vehicles in our country, and that our citizens are armed better than the armed forces of most countries.

Also, our air force would destroy... No, obliterate any other air force that tried to come into our air space. I would love to see the rest of the world come up against our F-22's and F-18's, really, I would. And should the rest of the world feel as if it had the need to bring carriers anywhere near the continent, they would promptly be destroyed by our ballistic missile capabilities. Failing that, our F-117's would have a field day bombing all those pretty lighted ships into oblivion.

The US would lose? Puh-lease.

 

[MrktMkr1986]

I think the important thing everyone fails to remember in this situation, is that the US doesn't care about invading anywhere else. All we have to do is sit back and defend.

Actually, all we would have to do is sit back and de-fund. Eliminate military aid to other countries.

 

[Swift]

I think the important thing everyone fails to remember in this situation, is that the US doesn't care about invading anywhere else. All we have to do is sit back and defend. And when you try to launch an invasion force onto US soil, please remember that we have more firearms than vehicles in our country, and that our citizens are armed better than the armed forces of most countries.

Actually Ghost, Danoff and myself(along with some others I believe) made that exact point a few pages back. It was nicely said though.

 

[Ghost C]

I remember seeing that. But I don't think anyone else saw it, and if they did, they paid no attention to it.

 

[ledhed]

As the cruise missles rain doom accross the globe and our stealth aircraft plant beutifull explosive roses over your infastructure and our Submarines sink your food and other resoures to the ocean floor . I sit calmly drinking a nice cold beer from a frosty mug wondering how you feel living in the stone age .

Muhaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaahahahaha your all doomed ...bwaaaahahahahaaha


ha.


hahaha !

 

[Specialized]

US vs The world?

Well i think i can accurately predict the outcome!

If all out war was to happen there wouldnt be people involved for long, sure platoons of soldiers and squadrens of pilots would be sent to almost certain death but this wouldnt last long becuase of one small thing. Thermo Nuclear Weapons! America being such a vast land mass would be targeted also the large land masses of asia, austrailia, russia and africa would be targeted by americans after being fired upon. This itseld would actually be the end of the world! I cannot remember the exact amount but i once read an article on the hypothesis and ultimate conlusion of WW3 and it mentioned that if as little as 6 nuclear weapons were to be fired and landed on the earth in succession the force would be great enough to knock Earth of its axis and the heat generated would cause the ice caps to melt. Doing this would cause what is know as an Extintion Level Event. Such is the gentle balence of pur planets location in the solar system just a few degress will change our climate. The moon would no longer orbit the earth as it does now, great tidal waves would spread the earth and the moon would leave earth orbit to travel as it wishes untill it collides with something in space, most likely another planet. Our planet would litterally tear itself apart!

But not to worry as we would all be dead from radiation anyway and this is all of course hypothetical!

 

[Danoff]

The moon would no longer orbit the earth as it does now, great tidal waves would spread the earth and the moon would leave earth orbit to travel as it wishes untill it collides with something in space, most likely another planet.

Which planet would that be? Mars? Or perhaps you were thinking Neptune? Or is the moon going to uh go into the sun?

 

[Specialized]

Which planet would that be? Mars? Or perhaps you were thinking Neptune? Or is the moon going to uh go into the sun?

As funny as it sounds its very very plausible! Although with some very advance math im sure we could strike a deal with the missile launchers so we can aim for a certain planet if you wish

 

[Zardoz]

...Thermo Nuclear Weapons!...

We're speculating on an all-conventional, no-nuke, no-bio, no-gas battle.

'Course, you'd have to read the whole thread to get the gist of that...

 

[niky]

Actually, all we would have to do is sit back and de-fund. Eliminate military aid to other countries.

As for whether or not global war is a realistic occurence... obviously not!

That's why Zardoz and I had to plant Pat Robertson or someone like him in the Whitehouse, because no one in their right mind would do it.

 

[FoolKiller]

As for whether or not global war is a realistic occurence... obviously not!

That's why Zardoz and I had to plant Pat Robertson or someone like him in the Whitehouse, because no one in their right mind would do it.

I though that my scenario of the US controlling the next major and cheap energy source to replace oil and thus controlling the world's economy was plausible enough theory to lead up to a war over time. I made some exaggerations in order to put everyone against the US, because they would realisticly have allies somewhere. Israel for one and probably Britain. My exaggerations were used to turn them against us also.

I found it much more plausible than essentially trying to take jabs at Pat Robertson and Rupert Murdoch. To me I believe others attacking the US due to our Capitalist ways colliding with the growing Socialist ideas in the rest of the world causing enough tensions to eventually lead up to this kind of scenario over time.

 

[niky]

either way, either idea is pretty far-fetched. I cast the US as the aggresor as it is easier to pervert one government than a dozen.

 

[Specialized]

We're speculating on an all-conventional, no-nuke, no-bio, no-gas battle.

'Course, you'd have to read the whole thread to get the gist of that...

Apologies, i didn not read the whole thread but i did read a fair amount. Well the answer is obvious. Being from england myself i know that america would win because of one simple fact. If the brits are against anybody in anything we loose!

Well done america!!

 

[Danoff]

As funny as it sounds its very very plausible! Although with some very advance math im sure we could strike a deal with the missile launchers so we can aim for a certain planet if you wish

No, seriously. Comeon stop kidding around. You do, of course, know that you're talking nonsense don't you?... D-o-n-'t y-o-u?

 

[ZAGGIN]

I live in the UK and have never heard it even voiced that the "unsuccessful" kamikaze passenger jet was shot down by the US military.

i too live in the uk, and i DO remember it being reported in the news on tv, and in the papers though all i could find was this solitary article:

WHAT DID HAPPEN TO FLIGHT 93? - daily mirror report

worldnetdaily.com - report on the mirror article

further evidence (taken from the mirror article)

UA93: THE EVIDENCE

THE WITNESSES

At least SIX witnesses, including Susan Mcelwain saw a small military type plane flying around shortly BEFORE UA93 crashed. The FBI denies its existence

THE DEBRIS

The US Government insists the plane exploded on impact yet a one-ton section of the engine was found over a mile away and other light debris was found scattered over eight miles away

THE MOBILE CALL

Passenger Edward Felt made an emergency call from the plane. He spoke of an explosion and seeing some white smoke. The superviser who took the call has been gagged by the FBI

THE F-16s

UA93 was identified as a hijack at 9.16am. At 9.35am three F-16s were ordered to "protect the White House at all costs" when it turned towards the capital. At 10.06am it crashed at Shanksville, less than 10mins flying time from Washington

THE BLACK BOXS

Sources claim the last thing heard on the cockpit voice recorder is the sound of wind - suggesting the plane had been holed

THE SONIC BOOM

The FBI insists there was no military plane in the area but at 9.22am a sonic boom - caused by a supersonic jet - was picked up by an earthquake monitor in southern Pennsylvania, 60 miles away from Shanksville.

i personally dont have an opinion of what actually happened to flight 93, but there is a weight of evidence on the WWW - whether it is right or wrong is for you to decide.

 

[Solid Fro]

I posted these links three times this month. Some of you need to get a clue.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/flight/flight.html

 

[Diego440]

Viper Zero's links say one alleged truth and Zaggin's say another. The existence of one doesn't disprove the existence of another (thanks PHI101). But it does indeed help support my theory of the fate of Flight 93

 

[Solid Fro]

Your "theory" is not the truth. I present the facts, take it or leave it.

Since this is a pretend thread, let's imagine if Flight 93 was indeed shot down by a F-16. What would be the alternative of not shooting the airliner down? The flight was headed towards Washington DC. Do you want the flight to to crash into capitol buildings and kill even more civilians?

Passengers take over Flight 93 and crash. America is damned.
American fighter planes shoot down Flight 93. America is damned.
Flight 93 crashes into the Capitol. America is damned.

 

[ledhed]

since it...the actual true fate of flight 93.... has been proven countless times without doubt.... and there is absolutely no way the US could keep secret the plane being shot down ...why is this still being brought up ?
I want twighlite zone music played for my conspiracy theorys...

 

[Diego440]

Since this is a pretend thread, let's imagine if Flight 93 was indeed shot down by a F-16. What would be the alternative of not shooting the airliner down? The flight was headed towards Washington DC. Do you want the flight to to crash into capitol buildings and kill even more civilians?

Passengers take over Flight 93 and crash. America is damned.
American fighter planes shoot down Flight 93. America is damned.
Flight 93 crashes into the Capitol. America is damned.

I said that before on another thread. However, your scenario on the reasons why Flight 93 would've been shot down are very plausible. What I don't get is why The US (America, I repeat, is a continent, not a country) has to be damned in every outcome.

Your "theory" is not the truth. I present the facts, take it or leave it.

The presented evidence is as truthful as yours is to the contrary. One was just more widely publicized than the other. That doesn't make it truer or falser.

 

[Zardoz]

As the passengers battled the hijackers for control of the plane, the pilot-hijacker violently banked the plane back-and-forth and up-and-down. The manuevers were possibly radical enough to cause the plane to break up, hence the scattered debris.

The debris trail does not necessarily mean it was hit by a missile.

 

[Diego440]

and since none of us are experts, we'll just leave it like it is... a hypothesis