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USSR ordered the assassination of the Pope?
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"Agca served nearly 20 years in an Italian jail for the crime. He is currently in prison in Turkey for the murder of a journalist."
Sounds like a nice guy.
Sounds like a nice guy.
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Exactly... even though alot of strange stuff went on in the cold war, I would never have thought that the Kremlin were behind trying to bump off JP2...
I tried to come up with a better pun, I had ten candidates actually... but when it came to puns that actually made me laugh, no pun in ten did...High-TestNo pun intended?
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Not so much a pun war, sounds more like a pun-tiff?kylehnatDoes every thread started by Touring Mars have to end in a pun war?
he he... best smilie ever...!!daanYou should have included a pole.
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Indeed...
Red Rabbit, by Tom Clancy is about a Soviet officer who discovers the plot to assassinate the Pope and decides to defect and in turn, tell the Americans all about it.
SPOILER
The Americans believe a Soviet soldier is in charge of doing the actual assassination. The Soviet's plan is actually to have the Turkish guy shoot him (the Pope) and then have a Soviet officer shoot the Turkish. When the Americans find this Soviet soldier, they apprehend him, but of course, the Pope still gets shot...
Red Rabbit, by Tom Clancy is about a Soviet officer who discovers the plot to assassinate the Pope and decides to defect and in turn, tell the Americans all about it.
SPOILER
The Americans believe a Soviet soldier is in charge of doing the actual assassination. The Soviet's plan is actually to have the Turkish guy shoot him (the Pope) and then have a Soviet officer shoot the Turkish. When the Americans find this Soviet soldier, they apprehend him, but of course, the Pope still gets shot...
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Democracy is a government system, communism is a financial system.... they aren't mutually exclusive. Now if you would have stated that the USSR was a dictatorship I would have agreed with you.
Damn Americans and their fear and paranoia around commies.
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Oops, I just see that you're Canadian, I guess your southern neighbors rubbed that habit off onto you.
Damn Americans and their fear and paranoia around commies.
*edit*
Oops, I just see that you're Canadian, I guess your southern neighbors rubbed that habit off onto you.
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But communism and democracy conflicts over fundimental things, like human rights, etc. so it may be a financial system, but it does not grant full democracy to the citizens. Just look at those communist countries. China, Cuba, USSR, Vietnam, Myanmar, they all have been accused of inflicting massive human right abuses; they turn out to be all dictatorship too.
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smellysocks12Democracy is a government system, communism is a financial system.... they aren't mutually exclusive. Now if you would have stated that the USSR was a dictatorship I would have agreed with you.
Damn Americans and their fear and paranoia around commies.
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Oops, I just see that you're Canadian, I guess your southern neighbors rubbed that habit off onto you.
Education Time
USSR and Communism is a godless, classless and stateless Utopian society. Pope John Paul II wasn't too crazy about the godless part, after fighting the Germans (he fought them in is special godly way).
I knew the Russians tried to kill him after watching the movie about him that came out back in December, or November, I think. Great movie, BTW, even if you're not religious. The Pope did just as much to stop Communism as good ol' Ronnie.
This movie about Pope John Paul II, since there's so many of them. This one was just great, and everybody should see it. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475999/
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I don't think anybody should really be surprised.
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The USA has only Castro as the spiritual-enemy-on-the-doorstep whereas the former Soviet Union had the Pontiff of the world's largest single religeous sect as it's nemesis, Ronnie & PJ used agree on most subjects in their time and the Catholic Church was instrumental in the demise of the USSR; look up the later sayings/papers of Alexander Solzhenitsyn, i recall him in interview claiming the church in modern russia was indomitable, they could make dissident non-atheism a crime but they could'nt tear the cathedrals down. Ethnic peoples were just waiting w/ da knife!
It was a pisspoor attempt by this 'muslim' Agca, WHO HAS BEEN ON RELEASE SINCE BEFORE THIS THREADS INITIAL (12 January 2006), on a Target who had notoriously easy security (trusting his god for physical protection)
this was '81, 3 years on a throne by a man previously Karol Wojtyla, but security was L - A - X;
this is'nt a KGB cover hit, its an attempt at an oswaldian 'cover' & pretty pathetic
It was a pisspoor attempt by this 'muslim' Agca, WHO HAS BEEN ON RELEASE SINCE BEFORE THIS THREADS INITIAL (12 January 2006), on a Target who had notoriously easy security (trusting his god for physical protection)
this was '81, 3 years on a throne by a man previously Karol Wojtyla, but security was L - A - X;
this is'nt a KGB cover hit, its an attempt at an oswaldian 'cover' & pretty pathetic
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