Version 2.10 car changes

[Lionheart2113]

Well, my list of cars with the best power/ratio pending performance points has now def changed. I've got a small list of cars that I know have changed for the better so far. If there are more please add. Thanks.

Aston Martin
DB9 Coupe '06
V12 Vantage '10

BMW
Z4 '03
135i Coupe '07
Concept Series 1 Tii '07
M3 Coupe '07
M5 '08

Cheverolet
Z06 (C5) '04

These are just a few that I've noticed so far from the dealership. Getting ready to check my favs list to see others.

 

[XDesperado67]

I know at least some of the RX-7s got large changes to their PP.
The Altezza/IS200 family of cars also saw a major change to their PP.
Crossfire is another car that saw a major PP shift.

 

[trackripper123]

Lotus Carlton had a massive PP change.

 

[krenkme]

New Dodge Challenger (500pp before. 468pp after )

 

[praiano63]

Before 2.10

Aston Martin Vanquish 550PP-548HP-1384kg

After 2.10

Aston Martin Vanquish 496PP-548HP-1384kg

It will give now a maximum of 520PP

Aston Martin Vanquish 520PP-672HP-1384kg

Game over.

 

[Dotini]

I was able to purchase a used Honda S2000 with only 413 PP.

 

[Z1-AV69]

The Mercedes Benz C63 AMG seems to have changed massively too. I only had a quick look at my old cars so far and it went from 550 pp to 507 pp or something.

My 550 pp Ferrari F40 went to 543 pp I think.

The numbers are out of my memory, better check those if you want hard data.

 

[Lweed-]

My ae86 was 460pp and now it is 420pp.

 

[adz-94]

toyota supra RZ has went from ~585pp to 525pp
nissan 300zx 2by2 has went from ~575pp to 525pp
tvr cerbera speed 12 not sure about pp before 2.10 update but it is now 540pp with minimum downforce

PD what are you doing? ive just won a 575pp race around the nurburgring against some very good drivers in my 518pp supra RZ how is that fair?

 

[praiano63]

NISSAN SKYLINE COUPE 370GT TYPE SP'07

Before 2.10 = 384hp-1360kg-500pp

After 2.10 = 384hp-1360kg-459pp

Going to be an overrated 450pp now.

 

[esoxhntr]

My 505PP Porsche Boxster went down to 452PP. It was already competitive at 505 pp, it will destroy stuff at 450.

 

[TDZdave]

My stock BRZ that I bought yesterday was detuned by engine limit to 409PP to to 382PP,

 

[Johnnypenso]

My premium BMW Z4 was 400PP (tuned and then detuned) on Monday night is now 349PP.

 

[TDZdave]

I feel for priano now, he has all of them car's to sort out and adjust PP rating's,

 

[Motor City Hami]

I feel for priano now, he has all of them car's to sort out and adjust PP rating's,

My advice to Praiano... draw a line in the sand and just archive them all.

I am not going back to adjust any tunes that have already been posted. Why not? Update 2.11, 2.12, 2.13.... 3.0, etc. PD has decided to progress the game with random changes and I believe that they will continue to do so. My tuning garage is just going to evolve with the changes. The tunes that I make availabe from here forward will just be what I decided to drive during that particular update. I think we (the tuning garages) need to just note when we built the tune and let the community decide if it will fit their needs for the current update. I just don't see how someone would keep up with adjusting all cars in their garages after every update. Just keep playing the game and post the cars that you enjoy using.

 

[Johnnypenso]

You could end up doing tons of work updating...and have it all washed away in a few weeks again...PD..👎👎

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Most low 400PP cars and sub 400 PP cars when stock have their PP reduced, try to scroll the garage, sort by PP from lowest, there are many cars with low HP and PP have their PP reduced so they can compete better with higher PP cars ( stock )

 

[TDZdave]

I wouldn't say he needs to retune all the car's, just adjust the PP info,

But this made me laugh, I decided to go looking through the premium dealership to what had changed, so the first car maker I went to was Toyota, I noticed the FT86 concept had its 409PP, the GT86 '12 was dropped to 380PP or there about's, its the same car! but the biggest kicker was the NASCAR's they are at 564PP fully tuned just make 600PP I think, at 570PP would you like to try race a 892BHP monster?
Another thing that nearly made me fall off my chair was the GT500 car's, after looking through the results of the time trial there is only .250 of a second between the YMS supra and the Takata '03, or though there is a stupid horse power difference,
BUT, if you go to Nissan premium dealership the Motul GTR at 443BHP has 585PP the Clarion GTR with 483BHP has 580PP and the rest of the GT500 GTR's have 588PP,
After discovering this I went to check out Lexus and its the same deal, the Enos and Bandai are the same car while the Petronas and Denso are another, yet there is 3 different PP values, jeez guy's leave it alone,

 

[mvpers]

Hey guys, PD gave us a present!
looks like we now have an all new GT5 to learn / play!

 

[Adrenaline]

BUT, if you go to Nissan premium dealership the Motul GTR at 443BHP has 585PP the Clarion GTR with 483BHP has 580PP and the rest of the GT500 GTR's have 588PP,

The above I actually find promising.
The Motul is 1130kg (30kg more than the others), which explains the difference in PP there.

Now, the Clarion is a known weaker option of the GTR's because of it's tires installed being Yokohama, rather than the Potenza's that the other GTR's have, which provide far more grip.

So, while ignoring the rest of the PP issues, this specific situation I actually agree with, and find extremely interesting.

 

[TDZdave]

The above I actually find promising.
The Motul is 1130kg (30kg more than the others), which explains the difference in PP there.

Now, the Clarion is a known weaker option of the GTR's because of it's tires installed being Yokohama, rather than the Potenza's that the other GTR's have, which provide far more grip.

So, while ignoring the rest of the PP issues, this specific situation I actually agree with, and find extremely interesting.

Yes the Motul is heavier then the other's, but its down by 50BHP, I cant see how 50BHP is worth only being 3PP less, it should be like 10PP down,

 

[CSLACR]

Now, the Clarion is a known weaker option of the GTR's because of it's tires installed being Yokohama, rather than the Potenza's that the other GTR's have, which provide far more grip.

What I saw while browsing through some SuperGT results the other day suggested that Yokohama and Dunlop both make race-winning tires, though I guess that could be the attempted simulation. (aka advertisement)

 

[Lionheart2113]

My advice to Praiano... draw a line in the sand and just archive them all.

I am not going back to adjust any tunes that have already been posted. Why not? Update 2.11, 2.12, 2.13.... 3.0, etc. PD has decided to progress the game with random changes and I believe that they will continue to do so. My tuning garage is just going to evolve with the changes. The tunes that I make availabe from here forward will just be what I decided to drive during that particular update. I think we (the tuning garages) need to just note when we built the tune and let the community decide if it will fit their needs for the current update. I just don't see how someone would keep up with adjusting all cars in their garages after every update. Just keep playing the game and post the cars that you enjoy using.

You can't say it better than that really. As with any major change like this one, someone will take note of some of the "unfair changes" and we will prob see another new version sooner than later. So going through old cars and changing them would be a waste, start new.

 

[praiano63]

My advice to Praiano... draw a line in the sand and just archive them all.

I am not going back to adjust any tunes that have already been posted. Why not? Update 2.11, 2.12, 2.13.... 3.0, etc. PD has decided to progress the game with random changes and I believe that they will continue to do so. My tuning garage is just going to evolve with the changes. The tunes that I make availabe from here forward will just be what I decided to drive during that particular update. I think we (the tuning garages) need to just note when we built the tune and let the community decide if it will fit their needs for the current update. I just don't see how someone would keep up with adjusting all cars in their garages after every update. Just keep playing the game and post the cars that you enjoy using.

I don't feel any major change in the physics this time, it's only the Performance points that let me mad. I'll not correct anything during a few weeks just to see if PD don't come back to what it were, because it just can be a big mistake coming from them.
I think they don't care at all really, i can't believe that there is no quality control in this thing..
I'm just tired of all this. Yesterday when i was moving my PS3 to another place of the house, it fall down from a height of 1,50m slaming on the hard ceramic floor.
I thought for a few minutes that it was broken till i connect it again and saw that it was still OK. But , during this few time, so sad i was about the game, it come to my head to not buy again a PS3 but an XBOX.
GT5 can be a wonderfull game, i've never play Forza 4 in my life, but the way that PD treat his customers and fans make me very sad.
I'm tired of all this. I think i will play less in the future, i already seat at my wheel with a different feeling now.
Something is broken !!!

 

[TDZdave]

well the gap between 2.08 and 2.09 was very small, and 2.10 came 3 months later,

 

[danbojte]

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I am not going back to adjust any tunes that have already been posted. Why not? Update 2.11, 2.12, 2.13.... 3.0, etc. PD has decided to progress the game with random changes and I believe that they will continue to do so. My tuning garage is just going to evolve with the changes. The tunes that I make availabe from here forward will just be what I decided to drive during that particular update. I think we (the tuning garages) need to just note when we built the tune and let the community decide if it will fit their needs for the current update. I just don't see how someone would keep up with adjusting all cars in their garages after every update. Just keep playing the game and post the cars that you enjoy using.

Very rational, well said. I totally agree. 👍

 

[MrGrado]

It's a good update. Now online racing will not be elise, elise, elise, elise, elise or LFA, LFA, LFA,LFA...

 

[danbojte]

It's a good update. Now online racing will not be elise, elise, elise, elise, elise or LFA, LFA, LFA,LFA...

This is the point. 👍

 

[TDZdave]

looking at the GT500 TT the YMS Supra is only .300 faster then the NSX,

 

[praiano63]

It's a good update. Now online racing will not be elise, elise, elise, elise, elise or LFA, LFA, LFA,LFA...

This is the point. 👍

Much more unfair than it was !!!!

EDIT:The game still stay good of course, but talking about road cars we have to do ourself a list of cars that can compete together and let this PP thing to the PD clowns crew.