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Wallbanger's 1st annual million credit FF Summer Shootout!(6/19/11 final 7/17/11)
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zero_speed
The car doesn't move around the Track, the Track moves around the Car (o_O)
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- WrecklessAbandon
Yup from hovering above the brake pedal with my left foot, and braking in general bothered my toe, though it feels better, and my left knee was hurting, also better, my right knee, is still sore, I really should give GT a 2-3 day break, but I'll wait until it's less fun for that.
Just second runs for 10-12 cars. I think you're going to lose the bet, but I do plan on breaking 2:00 with an Integra, and I will, first I'll try with Praiano's tune, then I'll make my own, after I'm finished with all cars, just to see what the Teggy can really do.
I think I can hit 1:59's with Praiano's, and 1:58's with mine.
I list Praiano's because D3monicZ3ro's is slower overall I believe, and had a lucky lap of sorts to place where it is, no shame in 2:00.anything.
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- D3MONIC_Z3RO_
Just second runs for 10-12 cars. I think you're going to lose the bet, but I do plan on breaking 2:00 with an Integra, and I will, first I'll try with Praiano's tune, then I'll make my own, after I'm finished with all cars, just to see what the Teggy can really do.
I think I can hit 1:59's with Praiano's, and 1:58's with mine.
I list Praiano's because D3monicZ3ro's is slower overall I believe, and had a lucky lap of sorts to place where it is, no shame in 2:00.anything.
Of course, with the tune I posted and after our conversation I wouldn't expect mine to do it in its current form. I accomplished what I wanted so I am ok. Lucky lap or not but it did the time, and that is all that matters. If you do hit 1:59 in Praiano's tune then the bet isn't lost yet. Hopefully all goes well and I will be ordering my FANATEC by the end of this month:tup:
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Can the testdrivers please add me very soon, if they have to drive my car! I don't know when I'm back online because I'm moving tomorrow and I don't know how long it takes for my internet provider to change adress and all... I try to stay online as long as possible, but they told me the turn it off on friday! They also said it would work on my new place on saturday but I don't believe it yet... last time I waited almost a week 
I think I'll test some of the tunes as well, anyone interested about the times, I can do with it?
I think I'll test some of the tunes as well, anyone interested about the times, I can do with it?
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- Hillsboro Oregon
- XDesperado67
- XDesperado67
mafia_boy
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- GTP_Mafiaboy
After looking at your 1st runs for all the GME cars CSL, I like the times you've run so far. I personally ran all three cars before I put them up for final testing and ran a 2.02.8 in the Accord, 2.03.1 with the Eclipse & 2.03.2 with the Civic so with your better driving (D1 Silver v D3 Silver), you should get about a second better than me which is what you've already done in the Eclipse. 
I just hope you can match that improvement with the Honda's. 
Just one tip with the Accord guys, it goes faster through the higher gears and better for braking and handling when it's being short shifted, that's why the gears feel long but push 2nd gear towards redline. 👍 Hopefully that will improve the lap times.
I just hope you can match that improvement with the Honda's. Just one tip with the Accord guys, it goes faster through the higher gears and better for braking and handling when it's being short shifted, that's why the gears feel long but push 2nd gear towards redline. 👍 Hopefully that will improve the lap times.
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- WrecklessAbandon
Second worked ok, it was the corners where a gear longer than second was needed, third was sometimes below the monstrous torque band.After looking at your 1st runs for all the GME cars CSL, I like the times you've run so far. I personally ran all three cars before I put them up for final testing and ran a 2.02.8 in the Accord, 2.03.1 with the Eclipse & 2.03.2 with the Civic so with your better driving (D1 Silver v D3 Silver), you should get about a second better than me which is what you've already done in the Eclipse.
Just one tip with the Accord guys, it goes faster through the higher gears and better for braking and handling when it's being short shifted, that's why the gears feel long but push 2nd gear towards redline. 👍 Hopefully that will improve the lap times.
A second run "should" improve it, of course I just re ran another car and it gained silch, so I guess we'll see.
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- WrecklessAbandon
Still have second runs for:
dr_slump - Trial Celica '03 - 1:58.891
Basilea - Trial Celica '03 - 1:59.333
Rotary Junkie - Mazda Atenza 25Z '07 - 2:00.175
raVer - Integra Type R '04 - 2:01.085
shmogt - Dodge SRT-4 - 2:01.883
MafiaBoy - Mitsubishi Eclipse GT '06 - 2:02.195
d24689 - Honda Accord '03 - 2:02.334
slowGTR - Civic Type R EP '01 - 2:02.404
Cool-dude3007 - Civic Type R '08 - 2:02.942
xDesperado67 - Citroen C4 '05 - 2:03.358
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5517835#post5517835
Added bravebear, C-Zeta, & Driver2183's second runs.
dr_slump - Trial Celica '03 - 1:58.891
Basilea - Trial Celica '03 - 1:59.333
Rotary Junkie - Mazda Atenza 25Z '07 - 2:00.175
raVer - Integra Type R '04 - 2:01.085
shmogt - Dodge SRT-4 - 2:01.883
MafiaBoy - Mitsubishi Eclipse GT '06 - 2:02.195
d24689 - Honda Accord '03 - 2:02.334
slowGTR - Civic Type R EP '01 - 2:02.404
Cool-dude3007 - Civic Type R '08 - 2:02.942
xDesperado67 - Citroen C4 '05 - 2:03.358
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5517835#post5517835
Added bravebear, C-Zeta, & Driver2183's second runs.
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- Hillsboro Oregon
- XDesperado67
- XDesperado67
I'm a lousy driver using a DS3, but I'm curious how the good drivers attack the course. Wouldn't mind hearing from one or more of you drivers the way you set up and take each corner, speeds etc. For instance I'm sure its all wrong but my best times (mid 2:06.xxx) with Kermit I did when I basically did the equivalent of a FF powerslide through turn one (or is it turn 2 since the track has that very slight angle to the left at the top of the rise before dropping down into the right hander and heading uphill.) I'm sure that's probably not the proper way to get around that corner fast but always seemed to be slower than the ghost if I tried not to lock up the wheels and just drive it around the corner.
- 3,359
- California
- PumpinNumbies
Despite popular belief, the driving line is rather quick. I don't follow it to the T but the braking points are pretty consistent and my lines through the corner are relatively close, depending on the car and track.
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- IL, USA
- DigitalBaka
- DigitalBaka587
I'm still learning the finer points myself, but driving in the WRS has taught me that so long as you don't massively stuff it, exiting a corner is generally more important than how you get into it. It seems especially true if there is a long stretch (more or less) flat out as this particular corner goes. Now obviously your entry will setup your exit so you can't just disregard it altogether.
On some of these cars that are understeering a lot I'm finding I get a good exit if I treat it like two corners and double apex it to get a flatter exit into the speed portion. I'm braking in as straight a line as I can, clipping the front early and trying to setup for a long, flat exit out. I would be very surprised if some of the top drivers do that but for my current (crappy, lowly, basement...
) skill it is working out okay.My two cents...taken with a large chunk of granular seasoning substance.
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- priesty_lfc
You guys still looking for test drivers?
I'm in if you do
I'm in if you do
dr_slump
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Of course!You guys still looking for test drivers?
I'm in if you do
Just remember, it's a lot work (13 tunes I think) and deadline is the 16. July.
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- WrecklessAbandon
20 Sir.
The best way I know how to say it is aside from braking as late as possible, and exiting as early as possible, maintaining the highest speed (momentum) possible through every corner.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5517835#post5517835
Second runs for desperado, basilea, slowGTR, dr slump, d24689
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- XDesperado67
- XDesperado67
Yeah! Kermit got under 2:03.
The Phat Frog has HOPS!!!
The Phat Frog has HOPS!!!
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- CyKosis1973
This, this and this again. My only saving grace is that I've driven a succession of massively underpowered cars. I freak my wife out regularly because I carry as much speed as is reasonably safe to do so on the road. I rage at people that pull up to junctions and roundabouts that have clear sight lines, who coast right up to the line and jab the brakes at the last second. Nothing coming, blatantly clear roads, just go already..!! It's very easy to get rid of speed, less so to build and maintain it.
Minimising inputs as well. I was talking to a mate over a few jars the other day and he remarked that he regularly lost to me in the corners. He drives in a very analogue fashion. He's either on it, or off it, steering or not steering. All this leads to erratic driving, as he yanks the wheel around, and the loss of time. My wife is a little like this IRL as well, drives me potty.
The majority of my lap times comprise of this maintaining speed, braking as little as possible, and minimising my inputs. It's not entirely possible for me to replicate how I normally drive because I use a controller. If I had a wheel and pedals, I'd probably do some of these cars better justice than I have.
Someone posted a video here, not sure who, but I noticed on the lefthander after the first hairpin, they lifted on the accelerator. For me, in every car I've driven here, this is a flat-out corner, no lifting, no brakes. This is exactly the sort of thing that cumulatively over an entire lap will cost tenths of a second and more. Whilst I like to think I drive smoothly, it's clear that there are smoother and braver drivers here than myself. Master CSL as the case and example. I bet my toes would curl watching one of your replays, I'd be just like my wife when she's in the passenger seat, trying to mash her foot through an imaginary brake pedal
Be brave peeps, you'll be surprised at how far you can push things. The best thing I've found in this game for developing the above it the Mercedes Nordschleife challenge. I felt I had to learn the track, because I sucked at it in GT4, and getting that manky old Merc around in a Silver qualifying time became an obsession. I Silvered the entire thing and Golded a few, but most importantly, it taught me just how far I could push myself and a car. I pushed as far as I dared, but there's still some more pushing to be done, same goes for most I suspect.
Anyway, what were we talking about..??
{Cy}
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Agreed, I use the driving line as well during the shoot out. I figured it would give me a consistent control element (along with the number of laps I run w each vehicle). The braking points are good, but kind of conservative at points. So far as a rule I've been going about one car length into the braking point before applying the brakes.
CSLACRYup from hovering above the brake pedal with my left foot, and braking in general bothered my toe, though it feels better, and my left knee was hurting, also better, my right knee, is still sore, I really should give GT a 2-3 day break, but I'll wait until it's less fun for that.
Just second runs for 10-12 cars. I think you're going to lose the bet, but I do plan on breaking 2:00 with an Integra, and I will, first I'll try with Praiano's tune, then I'll make my own, after I'm finished with all cars, just to see what the Teggy can really do.
I think I can hit 1:59's with Praiano's, and 1:58's with mine.
I list Praiano's because D3monicZ3ro's is slower overall I believe, and had a lucky lap of sorts to place where it is, no shame in 2:00.anything.
I have to know... Do u wear a helmet when u play?
Rotary Junkie
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According to his sig he has the "DFGT" aka Driving Force GT.
Roughly the same wheel as me then, just not as old and with more gadgets (I've got a Driving Force Pro). I will say that running a wheel feels a lot nicer than the controller provided it's one of the newer 900deg FFB wheels.
dr_slump
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Yup, the DFGT and DFP are great wheels. Got them both. The reason why I've the GT is that I connected someday the wrong power suply with the Driving Force Pro wheel and nice stinky white smoke came out of it. 
Luckily the GT isn't that expensive.
If you've too much money, you could buy a Logitech G27 (or the older G25). It's the "big" brother of the GT.
EDIT: (But I think the best Price/Performance ratio has the DFGT)
Luckily the GT isn't that expensive.
If you've too much money, you could buy a Logitech G27 (or the older G25). It's the "big" brother of the GT.
EDIT: (But I think the best Price/Performance ratio has the DFGT)
dr_slumpYup, the DFGT and DFP are great wheels. Got them both. The reason why I've the GT is that I connected someday the wrong power suply with the Driving Force Pro wheel and nice stinky white smoke came out of it.
Luckily the GT isn't that expensive.
If you've too much money, you could buy a Logitech G27 (or the older G25). It's the "big" brother of the GT.
EDIT: (But I think the best Price/Performance ratio has the DFGT)
Duely noted. What's the new one? The $600 one? And is it worth it? Do u guys just hold them on your laps? Or on a tray table?
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- paracuru
- praiano63
Yup, the DFGT and DFP are great wheels. Got them both. The reason why I've the GT is that I connected someday the wrong power suply with the Driving Force Pro wheel and nice stinky white smoke came out of it.
Luckily the GT isn't that expensive.
If you've too much money, you could buy a Logitech G27 (or the older G25). It's the "big" brother of the GT.
EDIT: (But I think the best Price/Performance ratio has the DFGT)
The G27 is perfect, the only problem is that you can't use it totaly with PS3/GT5. But the basics settings are greats.
One more thing is a bad electric contact with the brake. It brake a few and slow the car . Need to project some spray inside, it help but don't resolve for a long time. Always do it again at the worst moment. Generaly when i have to pass dr_slump.
dr_slump
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The G27 is perfect, the only problem is that you can't use it totaly with PS3/GT5. But the basics settings are greats.
One more thing is a bad electric contact with the brake. It brake a few and slow the car . Need to project some spray inside, it help but don't resolve for a long time. Always do it again at the worst moment. Generaly when i have to pass dr_slump.
Nahh, mine does exactly the same! I'm not sure why.....sometimes it's there, but it disappears as fast as it came.......
(I think it's some mystical conspiratorial crazy sh**....)
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