Wallbanger's 1st annual million credit FF Summer Shootout!(6/19/11 final 7/17/11)

If you want to play with ballast and oversteer, I'd say your best bet is to do the window lightening, and add that 5kg(or is it 10?) to the rear.
On another note, I find your LSD settings odd. Not because I disagree, because I actually thought 7/42/5 was the setting we should of used, but because last page you said the following:

I also wonder, since our lap times are nearly identical, if we share a similar driving style, which would explain why we both felt the car was pretty damn close to maximum potential.
The lsd I ended up liking surprised me too, don't know what to make of it, I know the Integra's I used was around 13/25/5 I think, not to sure anymore.

I think there's more in the car yet, but I think it lies somewhere in suspension tuning for more over-steer.
 
I think there's more in the car yet, but I think it lies somewhere in suspension tuning for more over-steer.

Shy of intentionally reducing rear grip there's not a whole hell of a lot more that can be done to provoke oversteer.
 
Oversteer Galore with FWD raVer

Nice but if you want an FF that you can induce real controlable Oversteer in you should try my Daihatsu Cuore TR-XX Avanzato tune. Got one set at 420PP for the lightweight K cup seasonal on share. Would have used an unlimited one for the shootout here except it maxes out somewhere between 135-140mph on the straight.:grumpy:
Couldn't make up enough time elsewhere to cover the lack of top end speed.
 
I DID!!!! I drove his car more than anyone else's it was so hard to get comfortable with!!! Fine, I'll drive it later again, I'm off to look for yesterday's Top Gear…
 
Nice but if you want an FF that you can induce real controlable Oversteer in you should try my Daihatsu Cuore TR-XX Avanzato tune. Got one set at 420PP for the lightweight K cup seasonal on share. Would have used an unlimited one for the shootout here except it maxes out somewhere between 135-140mph on the straight.:grumpy:
Couldn't make up enough time elsewhere to cover the lack of top end speed.

What do mean with real controllable oversteer?

This is not e-brake oversteer in the video.


raVer
 
I know it can be done with most FF's, but I can't seem to get the Atenza's rear to come out and play with me. ;)
Really? Because I found it quite…sideways on a few occasions, maybe the Atenza doesn't like you :D
 
What do mean with real controllable oversteer?

This is not e-brake oversteer in the video.


raVer
Never said it was E brake Oversteer.
Just saying a lot of cars especially FFs are not real controllable once the rearend gets loose. It's probably part of my problem in tuning and driving cars, is that I like them feeling light and loose where the back end feels about to go at any time. When I get it right the rearend can be kicked out pretty much at will and snaped back in easily. When I get it wrong...:crazy::scared:

I think I have it pretty close to right with three of the cars I did tunes for and have shared. Didn't quite hit it with Kermit.:guilty:
 
That's exactly what I want to do.
The back wheels releasing decreases pressure on the front tires.

It really won't though honestly. Forcing oversteer in that manner with FWD tends to sacrifice quite a lot of corner exit speed because the tail will literally try to drag the car backwards.
 
Can I try? :D And congrats on coming second in my test, good luck with the rest of the testers, hope to see you come out on top when we all get together and give our final verdict…
 
Can I try? :D And congrats on coming second in my test, good luck with the rest of the testers, hope to see you come out on top when we all get together and give our final verdict…
Onboy, I told you for a week that it's up for share and you could try it.........:rolleyes:

It seems that you're the only one, who hasn't driven the fastest lap with my tune. ;)
 
And I spent that very same week running around in ****ing FF boxes on ****ing GVS -.- :( :mad: :grumpy: :irked:
Well, I am the slowest of the bunch, so don't look at me…
 
And I spent that very same week running around in ****ing FF boxes on ****ing GVS -.- :( :mad: :grumpy: :irked:
Well, I am the slowest of the bunch, so don't look at me…
It doesn't matter if you're the slowest. I always try to make the best tune for everyone (which is almost impossible). And your reviews are pretty good.

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Some guys told me that my Trial is a bit nervous and difficult to drive. Well, where would be the fun? :D I began to like and tune FF just because of this event. It opened a new interesting world of GT5 for me. Thanks! 👍
 
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I have some unfortunate news to announce. For reasons unclear and unknown to any of us, Sins1er has fallen victim to the banhammer. That is all. So……that's one more you've killed, Adrenaline.
 
That's a pity. It looked like he was going to lift the average times. I don't think that Adrenaline can take all the credit for the ban though. It does, as they say, take two to tango.....
 
Onboy123
I have some unfortunate news to announce. For reasons unclear and unknown to any of us, Sins1er has fallen victim to the banhammer. That is all. So......that's one more you've killed, Adrenaline.

What?!?? A Tester Banned out?!?! It seems like people have been playing nice. Even Adrenalin has resisted the urge to get nasty (or as nasty) even he's been cool. It seemed like this Shootout was killing the inter garage squabbles, and useless nit picking that had been plaguing the scene.

It's a damn shame we had to lose another member for any reason.
 
Onboy123
Yea, you should know that feeling.........and any mods care to shed some light on his ban? Please?

Yup, sure do, fell victim to a GTP Beef protagonist, but learned from the experience. (not exactly what you would think ) I look at it as a failure in moderation. Just my opinion, & it seems the Mods differ in opinions. That's just life.

We can only assume it had anything to do with anybody in particular, it may very well be something else, while my suspicions are the same, they are unfounded.
 
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Wow! AssassinTuner has become AssassinPhilosopher or AssassinDeepthinkingperson!! :D And Mods, whichever one of you banned him, please explain why? It would be better if we knew the cause of his removal from the community…
 
Sorry to hear we lost sins1er:(

Hopefully I'll be able to stay awake long enough today to start posting some of the early averages of times from those who have completed at least initial test runs.

I could just be trying for the moral victory here, since its obvious by now that Kermit isn't going to be the fastest car at least on this track and in this shootout, but with the average spread on times right around 4 seconds I think it shows that if put on track for a race instead of just a time trial you would get a fairly tight race where individual driver skill would play as much a role as the cars and their tunes.
Good job everyone tuners and drivers alike!👍👍
Want to give a special thanks to those who helped plan this and get it rolling. Extra thumbs up to AssassinTuner for his part in not only the planning phase but also acting as PR person to spread the word. And as always Onboy has done an outstanding job in helping keep this all organized and updated so we can track the action without wading through 1000+ posts.
 
Yea, you should know that feeling………and any mods care to shed some light on his ban? Please?
Look back over the last 5 pages and see what's deleted of his, and I'll bet that's why, may only be a 3/7 day ban.
Also it had nothing to do with Adrenaline.
 
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