Way Too Much Smoke

[sinbad]

Actually the Smoke Generation seems real to me! go find a D1 video and even check the rules, the more smoke the better is the thought. Ive been to many D1 events and In fact they have tires that give off red smoke so I think you may be mistaken.

I don't think so.

Powerful drift cars make a lot of smoke (although even then it's not always as thick or heavy as you would see in GT5) but it takes real intent to do so. In GT5 you can get a cloud of such thick smoke by doing the faintest power-slide out of corner in anything, even a Cappucino! A slide which is nowhere near as long or side-ways as the M5's drift at the end of that video will leave a thick white cloud behind.

If you look at my earlier posts here, you'll see that smoke volume is not the issue, in fact the only time it looks realistic is when you're drifting a high-power car aggressively (although the smoke from the front tyres whilst countersteering those drifts shows up how messed up it is too and ruins the effect). I don't want them to reduce the maximum, or how long it can stay in the air.

I just want the way it is made to be more realistic, which happens to be a reduction of smoke for 95% of the time.

 

[eran0004]

I really want them to fix this. Nobody can say the smoke generation in GT5 bears even the slightest resemblance to reality.

The smoke generation in GT5 bears a slight resemblance to reality. 👍

But seriously, it's not that bad. Making the smoke more realistic is not the top of my wish list anyway...

 

[sinbad]

Awesome video!!!

As above can be a pain just praying you come out of a smoke cloud in one piece. Can we assume it's setup on the extremes for people without FFB to get some indication they are loosing traction

I'm not sure, it's certainly of no use to the driver, though.

I think they just wanted to show off their smoke (although the aliasing is perhaps best not mentioned).

 

[Skunkyskunkface]

I think if your outside wheel is turning red you are locking, spinning or I believe in most cases described here pushing the wheel along the floor by turning too much/ too fast. I rarely get outside wheel smoke under braking and when I do it's because Messed up. As to the amounts produced I know low power cars can be made to smoke alot with some encouragement but agree that there seems to be alot produced.

Although you may still be turning with a red tyre you won't be turning as fast.

 

[a100_sausages]

I like making smoke. So why doesn't it show up in the mirrors when using the interior view?

 

[counter345]

PD really have to adjust their smoke generation parameters.

How often do you go into a corner hard on the brakes, and without locking it, send billowing thick white smoke from the loaded outside front tyre?

Actually, not very often. The reason why your tyre smokes is because cornering and braking in real life under phenomenal pressure creates a lot of heat due to the friction of the brakes AND the road, and therefore may cause a little bit of smoke, though I don't see 'billowing thick white' smoke when doing this in GT5- I think that is an over-exaggeration. The biggest I've had when braking in a corner is a little bit of smoke when delving in a bit too fast in a corner and braking.

Honestly, if anyone argues that it's realistic looking, they must not watch much motorsport.

Dude, everyone has different opinions.

 

[sinbad]

Honestly, if anyone argues that it's realistic looking, they must not watch much motorsport.

Cars can spin wheels, skid, spin, leave skid marks, understeer, oversteer, without a hint of smoke.

To make a lot of smoke takes a lot of force. Gt5 has nothing between no smoke and thick smoke. As soon as the game thinks a tyre might be getting spun or sliding a bit sideways, it starts pouring out thick smoke.

 

[Highlandor]

I agree the smoke in GT5 is a bit over dramatic and sometimes unrealistic, but, I have to say, when you're the one producing it with a powerslide or drift and you have friends following behind or watching you, it doesn't half feel and look good

They seem to like it too.

Over the top / too much - yes, definately, but it's soooo much fun and FUN is something alot of people have complained is lacking in GT5, so in my opinion, let's stick with what we've got in terms of smoke volumes and density 👍

 

[Skiddy]

Best smoke in GT so far. Love it. smoke plus wind is an eye candy.

 

[deejayy2k]

i quite like the amount of smoke atleast they got rid of that awful squealing noise cars used to make on corners

 

[daltonlm]

I just passed by this topic to say "BRING ME MORE SMOKE"!!

 

[DJones]

True. I think that there needs to be levels of smoke. The thin level should stay how long it does now in gt but the thick needs to cloud out more and stay around a LOT longer.
I hate to assume this but I imagine most of you do not race in real life. What I said sticks. The smoke stays around for a quite a while and its thicker, bluer, and smells plunge your nose is having an orgasm... But that last one might be hard for PD to get

 

[BradKinder]

Different settings and parts will change whether you see smoke when you drift. Certain setups will allow you to drift without smoke. Most high-performance setups will make lots of smoke. Only low-stage amateur setups allow drifting without the tires smoking.

 

[Villain]

More people would complain if there is little/no smoke.

People will (and do) complain about anything and everything. Hence the existence of this thread.

 

[oblivionskate]

it's not as bad as most games. That made me think about when i was little playing Driver on ps1 and trying to come to a complete stop with making smoke or a screech. I don't think it can be done.

 

[Spacegoat]

I have no problem with the amount of smoke in GT5, better to have a little too much then none at all.

 

[gtsmashbros]

The problem isn't too much smoke, it's that the smoke appears too fast.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

Stop complaining? That should solve it.

 

[BradKinder]

I've gone all initial d on some cars without any smoke.

 

[Biobunny]

I don't mind smoke but how does the AI somehow know where to go if there's lots of smoke in front of them. I thought I would be like watch this smoke and then they would just pretend the smoke never existed.

 

[Peter.]

The only problem with smoke is understeer. The tyres smoke a lot while understeering, when they really shouldn't at all. Everything else is okay.

 

[jpressley101]

I'm just happy that the smoke isn't all pixelated like in the prologue.

 

[DJones]

I'm just happy that the smoke isn't all pixelated like in the prologue.

What gt are you playing? Just do the follow view and look at the car. Ugh... The fenders and the bumper. But that's aliasing (correct me if I spelled it wrong) and for another thread.

Here's an interesting point. Beggers.can't be choosers. I hate to say it megastar I have complained to but guys would you like some cheese with that whine? There will never be a perfect game except for real life. I understand that there are situations like location, income, disabilities, ect that can hinder the chances of some individuals being able to go out and race or have a race car but the biggest of all things stopping people is their own lack of self confidence.
For example: I am a seventeen year old junior in high school. I have a very low income making barely a few thousand dollars a year. Not something that I'm proud of but like I said people have their situation. I am in Jazz band, concert band, marching band, robotics, am taking AP courses (college classes offered in high school), starting a bar band to make some extra money on the weekends, AND have a girlfriend that I have been dating for seven months. Those of you who can remember your long term high school relationships can understand how much time that can and does take up. Here's where the self confidence and determination come in. On top of all of this I have managed to find the right people, introduce myself to them, and not get but MAKE my own opportunities. I worked for a year in a mans porsche race shop without pay and a few months with fairly good pay but what I wanted to gain was: knowledge of the mechanics of a car (iv worked in a body shop with my dad so i knew my way around a car but lacked the knowledge I wanted), good knowledge and experiance rebuilding and modding engines, and the opportunity to race. I got exactly what I wanted. I performed maintenance on a large variety of cars (mostly german) rebuilt engines, built 944 race cars, prepped then painted a few of them, and am now doing autocross, going to a short race driving school, and am using one of the cars this finnerty to race at heartland park this summer.
Anyone can accomplish anything if you try.

 

[sinbad]

Nothing personal DJones, I'm sure you're a nice guy and apparently quite proud of yourself, but this is a GT5 forum. People here play GT5. It doesn't say a thing about any other part of their life, nor is it implied by anyone making posts here that they don't have one or are a loser, as your post implies.

I made this thread, but I do not ask that everyone agree with me, even if I think they're wrong if they don't, but anybody that has posted anything except (simplified) "I think the smoke is fine" or "I think the smoke could be better" is trolling, tbh.

Comments like "People complain about anything" or "Stop complaining", or "cheese with that whine". If you think complaint posts (the ones you don't make yourselves) are negative, you've got it all backwards, comments like yours are not contributing anything positive to the discussion or to anyone at all.

 

[asdfg11]

What gt are you playing? Just do the follow view and look at the car. Ugh... The fenders and the bumper. But that's aliasing (correct me if I spelled it wrong) and for another thread.

Here's an interesting point. Beggers.can't be choosers. I hate to say it megastar I have complained to but guys would you like some cheese with that whine? There will never be a perfect game except for real life. I understand that there are situations like location, income, disabilities, ect that can hinder the chances of some individuals being able to go out and race or have a race car but the biggest of all things stopping people is their own lack of self confidence.
For example: I am a seventeen year old junior in high school. I have a very low income making barely a few thousand dollars a year. Not something that I'm proud of but like I said people have their situation. I am in Jazz band, concert band, marching band, robotics, am taking AP courses (college classes offered in high school), starting a bar band to make some extra money on the weekends, AND have a girlfriend that I have been dating for seven months. Those of you who can remember your long term high school relationships can understand how much time that can and does take up. Here's where the self confidence and determination come in. On top of all of this I have managed to find the right people, introduce myself to them, and not get but MAKE my own opportunities. I worked for a year in a mans porsche race shop without pay and a few months with fairly good pay but what I wanted to gain was: knowledge of the mechanics of a car (iv worked in a body shop with my dad so i knew my way around a car but lacked the knowledge I wanted), good knowledge and experiance rebuilding and modding engines, and the opportunity to race. I got exactly what I wanted. I performed maintenance on a large variety of cars (mostly german) rebuilt engines, built 944 race cars, prepped then painted a few of them, and am now doing autocross, going to a short race driving school, and am using one of the cars this finnerty to race at heartland park this summer.
Anyone can accomplish anything if you try.

...and how's the med situation? Random as hell man...

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I have no problem with the amount of smoke in GT5, better to have a little too much then none at all.

👍 agreed.

 

[turbo^]

"... in real life smoke is much much darker, or bluer (depends on tyres)"

It sure is..

Hah, really those burnouts were done with these:

👍

 

[ChicoMaloXD]

Maybe in some situations the game needs a bit less smoke and in some others a bit more.

 

[djinline]

Maybe in some situations the game needs a bit less smoke and in some others a bit more.

You mean progressive smoke accumulating?

 

[HuskyGT]

Be happy that we got smoke at least. Although not as realistic, it is way better than what we had before.

I wouldn't be complaining about this...

Sure there is some pixels here and there specially in the Lexus pic, but it's a game, so it can't be perfect. Like I said, it is a million times better than what we had before. I didn't even expect GT5 to have this awesome smoke effects, to be honest.