We are all dead.

[Alfaholic]

Wow, that sucks! j/k.

Yeah, i guess i'd rather race a car that creates its downforce naturally... the thought of artificial downforce caused by a snowblower engine frightens me...if one of them fails, you'd hope your kids have some serious life-insurance coming their way.

Engine failure is a problem with mechanically produced downforce such as that used in the 2J (and also the Brabham BT...ummmm 49 or maybe 52 or something). However, it has two safety advantages over a car with downforce produced naturally due to its shape and speed.

ADVANTAGE 1: The bits that make it all work are mostly internal and within the wheelbase, making it less prone to damage from light impact with other vehicles.

ADVANTAGE 2: It works at any angle. The wings on a formula car work best when the airflow is parallel with the cars longitudinal axis. This means that the more sideways an F1 driver gets his car, the less downforce he has. So, the more out of shape he gets, the less grip he has to recover his situation Fan assisted downforce does not suffer this problem.

The 2J may not have done so well, but the Brabham showed the superiority of fan assisted downforce when Niki Lauda gave it victory in its one and only race. In that race, he beat the Lotus 79 - the Black Beauty, and the original F1 ground effects car (the 78 was more of an inverted wing car), and a car doing well because of its high levels of downforce - in its championship year. Mario Andretti was driving the 79 when Lauda overtook him on what Andretti described as "an impossible line".

EDIT: hey I just noticed... I've been elevated to level of prime villain in an Austin Powers movie. Shagadelic, baby!

 

[crimson_menace]

citi d'aria has destroyed more cars than not for me. An at the test course, I've died countless times in high-speed tuning trials...

The RUF ctr 'yellowbird' comes to mind...

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Engine failure is a problem with mechanically produced downforce such as that used in the 2J (and also the Brabham BT...ummmm 49 or maybe 52 or something). However, it has two safety advantages over a car with downforce produced naturally due to its shape and speed.

ADVANTAGE 1: The bits that make it all work are mostly internal and within the wheelbase, making it less prone to damage from light impact with other vehicles.

ADVANTAGE 2: It works at any angle. The wings on a formula car work best when the airflow is parallel with the cars longitudinal axis. This means that the more sideways an F1 driver gets his car, the less downforce he has. So, the more out of shape he gets, the less grip he has to recover his situation Fan assisted downforce does not suffer this problem.

The 2J may not have done so well, but the Brabham showed the superiority of fan assisted downforce when Niki Lauda gave it victory in its one and only race. In that race, he beat the Lotus 79 - the Black Beauty, and the original F1 ground effects car (the 78 was more of an inverted wing car), and a car doing well because of its high levels of downforce - in its championship year. Mario Andretti was driving the 79 when Lauda overtook him on what Andretti described as "an impossible line".

EDIT: hey I just noticed... I've been elevated to level of prime villain in an Austin Powers movie. Shagadelic, baby!

Yeah, you're a Gold member. Very cool.

 

[mgb-gt]

At Monaco there is a corner after the uphill strait, I don't how how many times I would have rammed oncoming cars that were braking for the chicane after the bridge. And Bunta would have strangled me for flying into the Monaco bay with the AE86 S.S

 

[mafia_boy]

I have been killed and re-incarnated thousands of times on GT4. My most spectacular would be 250mph on the TC in the FD, rear end comes around to the front end, overcorrect and watch myself go head first into the outer barrier sending the car metres in the air, landing and spinning around with each side hitting on each spin (front, back, front, back, front, etc.) sliding back down the track and slamming into the inside wall at about 140mph.

I would also have tried creating a drivethru on every building in Citta Di Aria with my cars!!

 

[Quinlan Vos]

I've done the circut de sarthe I and hit the bus-stops....without the stop lol

 

[Parnelli Bone]

MIssion 34. Enuff said.

 

[notsofast]

I've had countless fatal accidents on GT4 but one that was more recent was doing 'Like The Wind' in my Toyota 88C-V to win the W12. Two laps, in the lead, the rear tires were quite bald and as a result I spun out in front of a Sauber, Bentley and a Pescarolo at almost 400kph. I spun three or four times, then was hit side on by the Bentley, then the Sauber and finally the Pescarolo who were all going at least 200mph. The first collision launched me into the wall on the inside of the track and back onto the barriers on the outside and was repeated by the Sauber and the Pescarolo merely (?) punted me sideways down the track. In real life I hate to think what would've been left of my car. It was pretty spectacular though.

 

[Simplex 4100U]

died in the same place 3 times(hill before the corkscrew on Laguna Seca):
1st: fastest i've ever gone i an Oddysey, and most air i've gotten in one too!
2nd: now i know why the 2J was banned(270+ mph and no downforce makes for an oddly shaped MR aerial car.)
3rd: impossibly light hybrids should not be taken... err, lightly... this one car i downloaded was a "low gravity" volvo 240 with 4wd(felt like a moon ranger), and a top speed of 250mph. i hit the hill, and just watched it literally fly.("WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE----!" *BAM*)

 

[Quinlan Vos]

I've done the test course with a minolota toyota and had some glitch with the turning. I slammed into the wall goin way over 200.

when it happened I was using the bumber view...all I saw was sky

 

[Hyst]

Haven't played GT4 in over a year, but I can safely say I've probably died well over a hundred times. The one that stands out was on the second to last lap of a race at Le Sarthe, I had essentially burned the rear tires off the R92 and was limping back to the pits with a healthy lead, I was a little bit after Mulsanne when I decided to stay full throttle for the slight right hander before the hard, 1st gear left. Bad move. Back end of the car swings out, I fly off the track, into the left wall, into the right wall, and come to rest facing backwards, up against the left wall again.

 

[Quinlan Vos]

wow! thats sounds like quite a ride you went on

 

[T-Squared]

I think I've killed myself on every track in the game

 

[I-ROC]

I was Riding in my 1000 HP Viper. I was going 220 on the test course and lost control and SMACKED the wall

 

[Simplex 4100U]

I've done the test course with a minolota toyota and had some glitch with the turning. I slammed into the wall goin way over 200.

when it happened I was using the bumber view...all I saw was sky

same, only 300+ in a 3000GT MR Twin Turbo... nuffin but sky...

 

[RVDNuT374]

I once died in the New York 200 due to wandering too far to one side of the track and hitting the end of the pit wall at about 125 MPH. I still won the race though.

 

[Jetboy.]

AI helped me on my most recent adventure at the Sarthe. Grimmy called me home after an NSX decided his front bumper looked better in the rear seat of my Mustang, braking for the sharp right at the end of of the Big Straight at 170+ mph.


Cheers,
Jetboy

 

[X 4 Zeta]

Died on a track? Eh, the most common occurance would have to be on Citi di Aria or New York on my SRT10 or R33 '96 Skyline, and more often the Minolta. D| I really don't like New York because I can really get in some slides trying to save myself from any one of the numerous corners, especially on the one after the straights. xD