We will see the Lotus 97T!

In my view, I think that the main content will be like that:
-Lotus 97T
-McLaren MP4/4 (maybe, depends on licenses...)
-Toleman TG183B/TG184 (maybe, same reasons...)
-The British Formula 3 car he drove in 1983 (maybe, also same reasons...)
-Interlagos (Kart track and F1 circuit)

If PD has a surprise for us (which I doubt this...) we can wait also:
-Imola Circuit (the track where he had his fatal accident)
-Autodromo Estoril (the track where he took his first pole position & win with the Lotus 97T)
-Adelaide Street Circuit (if you remember, PD promised a second Australian track for GT6, so.....:rolleyes:)

I'm 100% sure that we will not see his Williams FW16, because the license belongs to Codemasters for the F1 2013...:grumpy:

I'd love to have Imola but NOT with the Senna content, that would be unpleasant.
The same can be said of the Williams, which when Senna drove it was a dog of a car anyway. The rest I agree with, but I'd like to see the MP4/5 and/or MP4/6 as well, people seem to forget those cars for some reason.
 
Besides the Lotus97T, I guess we only will have the Interlagos Circuit and maybe a Photolocation in Brazil.
 
Don't make the mistake of thinking that PD didn't abandon this game. I don't think they're going to add the Senna car anytime soon, along with other promised content we'll never see.
 
In my view, I think that the main content will be like that:
-Lotus 97T
-McLaren MP4/4 (maybe, depends on licenses...)
-Toleman TG183B/TG184 (maybe, same reasons...)
-The British Formula 3 car he drove in 1983 (maybe, also same reasons...)
-Interlagos (Kart track and F1 circuit)

If PD has a surprise for us (which I doubt this...) we can wait also:
-Imola Circuit (the track where he had his fatal accident)
-Autodromo Estoril (the track where he took his first pole position & win with the Lotus 97T)
-Adelaide Street Circuit (if you remember, PD promised a second Australian track for GT6, so.....:rolleyes:)

I'm 100% sure that we will not see his Williams FW16, because the license belongs to Codemasters for the F1 2013...:grumpy:

Very optimistic, but I wouldn't turn it down :P
 
Imola as part of a Senna themed content would be really bad taste.

Imola on its own would be a complete waste of money, time and resources.

It's a classic magnificent flowing race track of the old school totally ruined beyond redemption by chicanery.
 
It's not about deaths in general, it would be about creating Ayrton Senna content and including the track HE died at.

They could even add the track at a later date, no problem. The issue and stupid thing to do would be to release it as part of the Senna content.
yea. maybe. People go to imola every year to commemorate his death, electronic version of that just gives people all over the world that opportunity.

but i see how that could be just me to think this way. Maybe im just too white and nerdy!

Now what i really feel shouldnt be in this under any circumstance is the car that killed him. No point to that.
 
It'd just be bad taste. Not the worst thing in the world, but in the same vein as creating a Michael Schumacher tribute livery on a car that depicts him skiing.

I disagree with this. Apples to oranges. Schumacher's skiing accident had nothing to do with racing, cars, or his career. Imola plays an important role in the story of Senna, it should be included IMO.
 
In my view, I think that the main content will be like that:
-Lotus 97T
-McLaren MP4/4 (maybe, depends on licenses...)
-Toleman TG183B/TG184 (maybe, same reasons...)
-The British Formula 3 car he drove in 1983 (maybe, also same reasons...)
-Interlagos (Kart track and F1 circuit)

If PD has a surprise for us (which I doubt this...) we can wait also:
-Imola Circuit (the track where he had his fatal accident)
-Autodromo Estoril (the track where he took his first pole position & win with the Lotus 97T)
-Adelaide Street Circuit (if you remember, PD promised a second Australian track for GT6, so.....:rolleyes:)

I'm 100% sure that we will not see his Williams FW16, because the license belongs to Codemasters for the F1 2013...:grumpy:
What about Donington, under rain :)
 
I disagree with this. Apples to oranges. Schumacher's skiing accident had nothing to do with racing, cars, or his career. Imola plays an important role in the story of Senna, it should be included IMO.
It's supposed to be a celebration of Senna's career. Nobody wants to remember the scene of his death playing Gran Turismo. I mean, he won three races there, they could put it in for that, but obviously there are many other tracks he won races at, which would be more appropriate to add.
 
I disagree with this. Apples to oranges. Schumacher's skiing accident had nothing to do with racing, cars, or his career. Imola plays an important role in the story of Senna, it should be included IMO.
I t was just a quick comparison that came into my head. Anyway yes, it is an important part of his career but for 99% of people the only connection it has to him is that it's the track that took his life. As I said in other threads, there isn't a positive way to promote the track as part of a Senna package. A better comparison might be the Vegas track in a Dan Wheldon pack.

Yes some people would use the virtual track to pay respect to him, lap in formation or park up at the wall but it only takes a few morons trying to recreate the crash, albeit in a different car, to make PD and their choice a PR disaster with sensationalist "Gran Turismo players in sick recreation of Senna's death" headlines.
 
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If PD has a surprise for us (which I doubt this...) we can wait also:
-Imola Circuit (the track where he had his fatal accident)
-Autodromo Estoril (the track where he took his first pole position & win with the Lotus 97T)
-Adelaide Street Circuit (if you remember, PD promised a second Australian track for GT6, so.....:rolleyes:)

I'm 100% sure that we will not see his Williams FW16, because the license belongs to Codemasters for the F1 2013...:grumpy:


As Samus says, that would just be insensitive given this particular time right now. PD is illogical in many ways, but I don't think they'll be stupid enough to commit PR suicide with including those in this pack, especially after trying so hard to attract the Brazilian fans. I Guarantee no terrible engine sound or physics will be more insulting then the addition of those during this anniversary.

Why would you want a track where a famous racecar driver died?

Its not so much that (otherwise, all the real world tracks wouldn't be here) as it is the inclusion of the track specifically on the anniversary of such a tragedy.
 
My guess would be Adelaide gp street circuit will be available with the lotus97T after all it's confirmed this is the first car we will get in senna content so it's only logical that the track he gained his first pole and win at in the lotus would be the first track we receive.

Then a version of the mclaren with possibly donington
 
In my view, I think that the main content will be like that:
-Lotus 97T
-McLaren MP4/4 (maybe, depends on licenses...)
-Toleman TG183B/TG184 (maybe, same reasons...)
-The British Formula 3 car he drove in 1983 (maybe, also same reasons...)
-Interlagos (Kart track and F1 circuit)

If PD has a surprise for us (which I doubt this...) we can wait also:
-Imola Circuit (the track where he had his fatal accident)
-Autodromo Estoril (the track where he took his first pole position & win with the Lotus 97T)
-Adelaide Street Circuit (if you remember, PD promised a second Australian track for GT6, so.....:rolleyes:)

I'm 100% sure that we will not see his Williams FW16, because the license belongs to Codemasters for the F1 2013...:grumpy:

I'm sure that PD won't add Imola...or any track. PD never gives away tracks.
 
I t was just a quick comparison that came into my head. Anyway yes, it is an important part of his career but for 99% of people the only connection it has to him is that it's the track that took his life. As I said in other threads, there isn't a positive way to promote the track as part of a Senna package. A better comparison might be the Vegas track in a Dan Wheldon pack.

Yes some people would use the virtual track to pay respect to him, lap in formation or park up at the wall but it only takes a few morons trying to recreate the crash, albeit in a different car, to make PD and their choice a PR disaster with sensationalist "Gran Turismo players in sick recreation of Senna's death" headlines.
First video would be up on Youtube within the hour, followed by hundreds more within days. I have much more of a connection with Gilles Villeneuve for obvious reasons, and the inclusion of Zolder in Gilles Villeneuve pack would make me sick.
 
I don't see an issue with adding Imola in with a 'Part 2' of the Senna content and I shall explain why before you bludgeon me.

The Senna documentary was supported by the Senna Foundation (baring their logo at the end credits) and is supported by Brazilians as a depiction of their greatest celebrity and his life. In said documentary they show Senna's crash, the aftermath and his lifeless body at the edge of the track before putting him into the helicopter. The entire scene is 15 odd minutes in length, 15 minutes of Senna's lifeless body on screen after his accident. I repeat that this documentary was supported by the Senna Foundation. If they are okay with showing his death for the poignant image it holds after a depiction of his life then why can't they celebrate the same thing with GT6's content, which is also supported by the Senna Foundation?

We also forget that Senna wasn't the only person who died that day, Roland Ratzenberger also died and Barichello also had a massive crash that he was lucky to walk away from. Besides, we got a 2013 version of Circuit De La Sarthe after Allan Simonsen died there that same year and no one bats an eyelid because no one knows who he is. I agree that it's not 'Simonsen content' but my point remains.

Go on then, rip my comment to pieces and call me blasphemous. :D
 
I don't see an issue with adding Imola in with a 'Part 2' of the Senna content and I shall explain why before you bludgeon me.

The Senna documentary was supported by the Senna Foundation (baring their logo at the end credits) and is supported by Brazilians as a depiction of their greatest celebrity and his life. In said documentary they show Senna's crash, the aftermath and his lifeless body at the edge of the track before putting him into the helicopter. The entire scene is 15 odd minutes in length, 15 minutes of Senna's lifeless body on screen after his accident. I repeat that this documentary was supported by the Senna Foundation. If they are okay with showing his death for the poignant image it holds after a depiction of his life then why can't they celebrate the same thing with GT6's content, which is also supported by the Senna Foundation?

We also forget that Senna wasn't the only person who died that day, Roland Ratzenberger also died and Barichello also had a massive crash that he was lucky to walk away from. Besides, we got a 2013 version of Circuit De La Sarthe after Allan Simonsen died there that same year and no one bats an eyelid because no one knows who he is. I agree that it's not 'Simonsen content' but my point remains.

Go on then, rip my comment to pieces and call me blasphemous. :D
I call this blasphemy against the church of Senna, stone him! :lol:
 
I don't see an issue with adding Imola in with a 'Part 2' of the Senna content and I shall explain why before you bludgeon me.

The Senna documentary was supported by the Senna Foundation (baring their logo at the end credits) and is supported by Brazilians as a depiction of their greatest celebrity and his life. In said documentary they show Senna's crash, the aftermath and his lifeless body at the edge of the track before putting him into the helicopter. The entire scene is 15 odd minutes in length, 15 minutes of Senna's lifeless body on screen after his accident. I repeat that this documentary was supported by the Senna Foundation. If they are okay with showing his death for the poignant image it holds after a depiction of his life then why can't they celebrate the same thing with GT6's content, which is also supported by the Senna Foundation?

We also forget that Senna wasn't the only person who died that day, Roland Ratzenberger also died and Barichello also had a massive crash that he was lucky to walk away from. Besides, we got a 2013 version of Circuit De La Sarthe after Allan Simonsen died there that same year and no one bats an eyelid because no one knows who he is. I agree that it's not 'Simonsen content' but my point remains.

Go on then, rip my comment to pieces and call me blasphemous. :D

All I will say is showing what happened in reality is quite different from giving people the tools to recreate the accident for their own amusement.

So it's clear i've no issue them adding the track all all, it's tying it into a Senna package that I think would be a bad move.
 
I don't see an issue with adding Imola in with a 'Part 2' of the Senna content and I shall explain why before you bludgeon me.

The Senna documentary was supported by the Senna Foundation (baring their logo at the end credits) and is supported by Brazilians as a depiction of their greatest celebrity and his life. In said documentary they show Senna's crash, the aftermath and his lifeless body at the edge of the track before putting him into the helicopter. The entire scene is 15 odd minutes in length, 15 minutes of Senna's lifeless body on screen after his accident. I repeat that this documentary was supported by the Senna Foundation. If they are okay with showing his death for the poignant image it holds after a depiction of his life then why can't they celebrate the same thing with GT6's content, which is also supported by the Senna Foundation?

We also forget that Senna wasn't the only person who died that day, Roland Ratzenberger also died and Barichello also had a massive crash that he was lucky to walk away from. Besides, we got a 2013 version of Circuit De La Sarthe after Allan Simonsen died there that same year and no one bats an eyelid because no one knows who he is. I agree that it's not 'Simonsen content' but my point remains.

Go on then, rip my comment to pieces and call me blasphemous. :D
The difference would be PD making a huge deal of adding an Allan Simonsen pack and including La Sarthe in the package. The 2013 version of the track in GT6 is not tied to Simonsen in any way.

Not ripping your comment specifically, but I have a hard time understanding why everyone doesn't realize how tacky and tasteless this would be. This internet thing is crazy:eek::eek:
 
Why would you want a track where a famous racecar driver died?

Because Imola is by far the best Italian racetrack by opinion of many (myself included, although Mugello is very close) and it is so damn legendary from various reasons.

Also, its configuration is *perfect* for racing in Gran Turismo series, because it allows for races of almost all classes - from small cars on CH tires, to midsize on CS, through sports cars on Sport compounds and racing cars on R.

Not all tracks in GT are suitable for such variety IMO

So yes, Imola is absolutely welcomed in my book.
 
Not ripping your comment specifically, but I have a hard time understanding why everyone doesn't realize how tacky and tasteless this would be. This internet thing is crazy:eek::eek:
Whilst I see that some people would like the track on its own, having it as part of the Senna deal would make me feel uncomfortable at the least.

It's just a little... disturbing.
 
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