Weekly Race Series, Week 14 - EVO vs. WRX

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Originally posted by boombexus
Less confusion is always better. ;)
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You mean LESS CONFUSION is an OPTION !!!
I'm ALWAYS "Dazed & Confused."
:D Great pick boom, have only done 3 laps w/Lancer but have FINALLY found a ride that suits my driving style (or LACK thereof!!!):irked: Does a Max of 481HP sound about right???

T1......21.509
T2......41.074
T3....1'01.625

Off to do some laps in the WRX...UB57
:D

EDIT : VERY similar times after 3 laps in the WRX

@ "Luxy" the "Chase" is on !!!
 
Took both cars out for a spin ... my first thoughts are that the EVO is a much more enjoyable ride, because the AYC controller takes care of most of the understeer ... with the WRX, it was a fight to keep it on the track.

With the EVO:

T1: 21.0
T2: 39.4
T3: 59.5

It's clean save, but I blew the second last corner, and lost a bunch of time drifting through it.

With the WRX:

Nothing worth mentioning.... :irked:
 
Here's what I've been able to dig up so far about Toe:

- Increasing front Toe (positive numbers) creates understeer (less grip for the front wheels).

- Decreasing front Toe (negative numbers) does the opposite, creates oversteer (more grip for the front wheels).

- Increasing rear Toe helps for power-on oversteer (it helps by giving the rear wheels more grip, which would mean understeer??). From this, I'm guessing that rear Toe works similarly to front Toe (+ = understeer, - = oversteer)?

I'm thinking that small amounts of toe could help to fine-tune a cars handling, but a lot of toe would probably hurt the handling overall? What range of values are appropriate, and for what situation?

Also, what order do you place Toe in your tuning order? (I usually go down from the top, springs,ride,dampers,camber then stabalizers) Is Toe really important in your tuning strategy, or is it just icing on the cake.
 
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Originally posted by Stoffy69
All mods except for the intercooler on the EVO??? So we can have fully customised suspension, gearbox etc etc??

What about tyres?? Sorry to be a pain, i'm sure people who have been in the series longer will know already but I am not sure.
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Yep, you got it Stoffy, you can add all the other mods to the car. Your just limited to the turbos and intercoolers that have been mentioned.
Tires you can choose whichever ones you want. 👍

@Luxy, Toe is usually one of the last things that I adjust, unless I already know how the car reacts before hand. For example, with the Falcon, I knew that it's a car that had a lot of oversteer, so I changed the rear toe to -1.0 to counteract it.
 
@ Luxy I personally don't give Toe settings any major priority
This is how i,ve started going about things .Is to take the car out in stock form run a lap or two..
Then work primarily on the Suspension settings..Once im reasonably happy with that i move onto engine and tranny settings..as you know adjusting the LSD,s can affect the over/understeer affect of the car..So i am starting to make this one of the last things that i tune if needed..

Not had a chance to try any of these cars out yet..But i will get on it tonight ..

Later ;)
 
Thanks for the opinions on Toe boom, pedro.

I decided to take the WRX out for another little spin that turned into a 200 mile session :D

New clean save the the WRX (200.1 miles, 499 hp):

T1: 20.5
T2: 38.7
T3: 58.3

The lap was close one, I almost fuddled it up in the corkscrew, but managed to keep to wheels on the rumblestrip. My heart was racing after that :eek:

WRX Setup:

6/9
100/100
10/10
10/10
3/2
1/1 (Just realized that I tuned this before looking into what Toe does ... like this car needs more understeer :lol: )
3/3

18/20

5/5/5/5/5/5
Stock Gears

ASM: 0
TCS:2
VCD: 10%

Now to try and beat it with the EVO ... maybe tomorrow..
 
Hey UB, you must have caught my post while I was editing it .. the settings I usedd are there now.
 
woah - good work Luxy, it looks like u r getting stuck into this one
I might give this week a miss (sorry) Its the start of storm's F1 race and I just aint got the time to do both as best as I can
Can I still join in for a different race-week ??? Sorry to drop out Boom - You know I think that u r doin a good job - I'll deffo try to be in the next weeks race :D :D :D
 
Originally posted by Luxy
Hey UB, you must have caught my post while I was editing it .. the settings I usedd are there now.
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Thanx Luxy :👍
:D And for the SUPER TRACK MAP as well!!! I was there when Wayne Rainey "bailed off" in turn #9. Probably '83 or '84. Actually got to make 1 Lap around the track on my bike!!! Thanx again...UB57
:D
 
This should be Interesting :D

I like the WRX but It seems to have a LOT of understeer. The EVO on the other hand :mischievous: sticks to the road like glue (compared to the WRX)

by the way could any one explain what ACD and VCD is :odd:
I'm is a realy Newbie :dopey:

Thanks
 
Originally posted by noojra
This should be Interesting :D

I like the WRX but It seems to have a LOT of understeer. The EVO on the other hand :mischievous: sticks to the road like glue (compared to the WRX)

by the way could any one explain what ACD and VCD is :odd:
I'm is a realy Newbie :dopey:

Thanks
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The VCD (Variable Centre Differential) This allows the driver to adjust how much engine power is supplied to the front and rear wheels in 4WD vehicles..
Having the VCD at 50% gives you even power to all four wheels normally used for offroad..But turning ability is greatly reduced ..having it set low makes the car feel more like a FR (Front mounted engine ,Rear wheel drive) and steering response is improved..But this can also cause Oversteer.

The AYC (Active Yaw Control) this pretty much works in the same way as the VCD but this time instead of front and rear wheels ..It's the left and right wheels..This also helps with under/oversteer problems..

having it set to high will improve steering response but cause's oversteer..Set to low will improve the overall stability of the car but understeer becomes a factor ..

It's just a matter of tinkering about till you find what works best for you ..;)
 
damn luxy those are some great times, but i suppose if i'd run 200 miles already, id be gettin times like that too! haha, so far ive toyed w/ the EVO a little bit and after a 20 lap session got somthing like 21.1/39.7/59.7 or somthing in that region. im finding my biggest problem lis the last section of the track in between the T2 and T3 sectors, i need to find a way to make up some more time there. thats always been my weak spot on laguna. gave the WRX a quick shot, but only like 5 laps, i'll work more w/ it later
 
thanks for the PM reminder. as i only joined monday i never had enough time to do the falcon race but i did a quick 5 laps on it earlier and got a 1.42.xxx i kno it wud hav finished bottom but i did nothing tuning wise to it lol.

as far as this week goes i will give it a lot of time tho i have to say its the evo all the way for me i have always prefered evos to scoobys infact i might b trading in my bmw 328ci (one like in gt3) to go towards a VII or maybe a VI makkinen edition so will be interesting to see how well it performs nice pick boom
 
*never mention final times. Only t2 and t3 times... please edit all final times mention in the above post.*

I put down a 52.9 with my evo at 3 am last night after some fun *wink wink burps and puffs*.

I will be back with some real times soon, but for now, no new times or sessions. I should have a good amount of time this week... talk to you later on.
 
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