What happened!?

[Famine]

Jenson Button has said today that there was NO telemetry from Takuma Sato's engine to indicate that there was a problem, until it blew.

 

[enos79]

That's true GTChamp, and if you recall during the race, JPM apologized immediately after the incident to Ferarri. Obviously there is more to the story than what we as viewers can see from that one shot.

 

[heero 12]

To me it looked as though Montoya was trying to get back on the lead lap, weird, as FIA would've just bumped him back, if you look at it he is making a textbook pass manuver, but I'm still a newb to F1 so IDK.

 

[Eagle]

You can't pass under pace car at all, so JPM couldn't get back on the lead lap nor could he have let anyone past him. As soon as the lead car is behind the pace car the entire field has to form into a formation line and hold position until the pace car pits in and the leading car crosses the start/finish line. There was nothing to gain, only everything to lose.

I didn't hear anything about Montoya being fined, I did hear that he sounded almost apologetic on the radio to his team. I wonder what we all don't know?

As for Sato, I don't believe that for a second. Firstly, Button isn't their technical director, so I doubt he'd honestly be in the know on such matters. Secondly, it just seems incredulous every spectator in the stands and person watching on TV could expect his engine was going to go shortly and the team didn't.

I believe BAR were making the best of a bad situation. I don't know if they knew Sato's engine was bad before the race, but it certainly was from the moment the lights didn't go out and he leapt off. If you're a real consipiracy theorist you'd say they told him to jump start and get ahead of Michael, knowing he'd hold him up long enough to make an impact on the race but yet be out before the stewards would investigate properly and give him a penalty. As it is I think they at least used team tactics to baulk him. Sure, Ferrari's done that a million times, so credit to BAR for giving them a taste of their own tactics, but if that's truly the case, the manner in which it was done could have been a lot more professional.

 

[enos79]

Originally posted by Eagle
I wonder what we all don't know?

Don't knock someone because they give facts you may not have heard yet and then go on to post a whole message of pure opinion. Just because you haven't heard it, doesn't mean it automatically false.

 

[Famine]

Originally posted by Eagle
As for Sato, I don't believe that for a second. Firstly, Button isn't their technical director, so I doubt he'd honestly be in the know on such matters. Secondly, it just seems incredulous every spectator in the stands and person watching on TV could expect his engine was going to go shortly and the team didn't.

I cannot vouch for the veracity or otherwise of Button's statement, only that he said there was no indication on telemetry of a possible engine blow.

I've seen smoke like Sato's before on perfectly healthy engines - especially Renaults, and especially after an aborted start. I've also seen it on very, very ill engines - specifically Kimi Raikonnen's, but Coulthard seems to forget about that.

 

[Eagle]

Originally posted by enos79
Don't knock someone because they give facts you may not have heard yet and then go on to post a whole message of pure opinion. Just because you haven't heard it, doesn't mean it automatically false.

o_O wtf? I didn't knock him whatsoever. I just said I hadn't heard that. I even ASSUMED it was true and asked what we don't all know. None of us know what the FIA does if they decided to fine Montoya for the incident. Read before you post.

Engine's apparently produce similar smoke if the oil has been overfilled, so healthy engines do indeed replicate what we saw.

 

[heero 12]

Yes, I say he wasn't knocking me, any further arguement about this should be left alone, what happened happened so let's shut the **** up and look forward to future races ok?