What if GT7 never comes..

[daus26]

Nowhere near the scale of a full size GT game. It has photomode, livery editor a handful of cars and tracks and online racing. It's missing hundreds of cars, dozens of tracks, has no traditional offline career, no dynamic time of day or weather, no car upgrading or modification and a whole host of other features GT players are used to.
There's been no indication that GT7 is not coming and specific statements from Sony that GTSport is most definitely not a replacement for GT7. Given that the first 6 full versions of the game sold 70+ million copies I'd say it's a pretty safe bet GT7 will show up in the near future.

I never said it's anywhere near the scale of a full size GT. I'm just taking it from the man himself. He literally said GT Sport has what it takes to be full GT game, meaning It can pass being called GT7. Take it how you will, but that's not a good indication for me for the state of a full size GT we know to be coming out anytime soon.

Had GT Sport be released sub 60 dollars, it would be some indication, but for Kaz to repeatedly say GT Sport is a full scale release and the game being full priced, I don't see how we'll see "GT7", anytime soon.

So what are you suggesting, all GT games going forward will be like GT Sport, focused online racers with most of the content and features cut away? The next game probably won't be a clone like GT1-6 pretty much were, but GT Sport definitely won't be the only way going forward.

Of course, it probably won't be the only way going forward. Problem here is I think we're all here taking GT Sport as a spin off title when the man himself doesn't see it that way. What that means, who knows, but the fact that this is a full release, we can't just sit here and assume we'll hear about "GT7" in the near future.

So for those that feel like skipping this game because it's supposedly a spin off, I feel for them. I have several friends that think this way, which sucks because it's already 3 years into the generation.

 

[Samus]

I think you're reading too much into that statement from Kaz. It's just marketing talk from my POV, something to make this game seem bigger than it is to people who don't look into details themselves. Saying you could do something is pretty meaningless unless you actually do it, it's not called GT7. Why? Because he liked sport more? If that were the case why bring up the idea of GT7 at all? Him doing that surely suggests he has that game in his mind. The idea of numerical GT games is there.

The Sony marketing bod also said at initial launch GTS wasn't GT7 and went into defence about the size so I'm pretty sure he knew something of more usual scale was on the cards.

When, who knows, but I'm sure it will come.

 

[daus26]

Well he said from the interview, he went with GT Sport because this new sport mode seems to be the future of the franchise and he wanted to emphasize it in the title. From my point of view, it's the people that continually bring up GT7, or else he wouldn't thought of it.

However, yes it could be just PR talk but man does it sound extremely worrisome to me. I do remember one of Sony rep mentioning GT Sport was a much smaller scale, but that's not reassuring enough for me. That could just mean that it'll be a reboot. At the time, we also thought it would be like a prologue being sold at sub 60$, but look how it is now. It's being sold at 60 dollars and marketed as a complete GT game by Kaz himself. No Sony rep or evidence suggest otherwise since this.

Then again, if GT7 is the real deal and coming, Kaz would probably want all of us to focus on this game and to forget about this GT7 so PR talk is necessary. Bottom line, there's nothing reassuring here.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Well he said from the interview, he went with GT Sport because this new sport mode seems to be the future of the franchise and he wanted to emphasize it in the title. From my point of view, it's the people that continually bring up GT7, or else he wouldn't thought of it.

However, yes it could be just PR talk but man does it sound extremely worrisome to me. I do remember one of Sony rep mentioning GT Sport was a much smaller scale, but that's not reassuring enough for me. That could just mean that it'll be a reboot. At the time, we also thought it would be like a prologue being sold at sub 60$, but look how it is now. It's being sold at 60 dollars and marketed as a complete GT game by Kaz himself. No Sony rep or evidence suggest otherwise since this.

Then again, if GT7 is the real deal and coming, Kaz would probably want all of us to focus on this game and to forget about this GT7 so PR talk is necessary. Bottom line, there's nothing reassuring here.

It will be marketed as a full game so that they can charge full price for it. It is something new and is a new direction which stops it being a prologue. For some players - the elite who will be in contention in the FIA Championships - it will be worth every penny even if it has very few features and almost nothing to do offline except take photos and construct liveries for imaginary cars. There may even be enough interest to support this new branch for GTS2 and 3 etc, but I see it as very much a minority interest title and definitely only a spin off. A minority of players race online and only a tiny minority are anywhere near fast enough to remain interested in FIA Championships.

As a driver of average speed / ability who hosts classic car championships I have seen virtually nothing of interest in GTS so far. I don't enjoy "Quick Match" which just seems to be a ramming exercise with me always picking up penalties for other peoples mistakes (or deliberate rams). I enjoy racing against friends whose driving style I respect and understand, but the idea of racing against dirty drivers who I don't know holds little appeal. If the online experience is anything like the current "Quickmatch" the novelty of GTS will wear off on day one and the game will drop to sale price within a week. I will wait until I see reviews from friends and other people I trust before placing an order. At the moment I am guessing that I will give it a miss and instead hope that GT7 appears as quickly as possible with a proper roster of classic cars and historic race cars from which I can construct some interesting championships for my online friends.

 

[Slum]

It will be marketed as a full game so that they can charge full price for it. It is something new and is a new direction which stops it being a prologue. For some players - the elite who will be in contention in the FIA Championships - it will be worth every penny even if it has very few features and almost nothing to do offline except take photos and construct liveries for imaginary cars. There may even be enough interest to support this new branch for GTS2 and 3 etc, but I see it as very much a minority interest title and definitely only a spin off. A minority of players race online and only a tiny minority are anywhere near fast enough to remain interested in FIA Championships.

As a driver of average speed / ability who hosts classic car championships I have seen virtually nothing of interest in GTS so far. I don't enjoy "Quick Match" which just seems to be a ramming exercise with me always picking up penalties for other peoples mistakes (or deliberate rams). I enjoy racing against friends whose driving style I respect and understand, but the idea of racing against dirty drivers who I don't know holds little appeal. If the online experience is anything like the current "Quickmatch" the novelty of GTS will wear off on day one and the game will drop to sale price within a week. I will wait until I see reviews from friends and other people I trust before placing an order. At the moment I am guessing that I will give it a miss and instead hope that GT7 appears as quickly as possible with a proper roster of classic cars and historic race cars from which I can construct some interesting championships for my online friends.

While I totally see your point, I have to have some faith here that they will SEVERELY penalize/temp-perma ban baddies who just don't give a **** about racing etiquette, and who flat-out crash themselves or others often. We're at a time where almost all gaming is going Multiplayer. Humans are social creatures, and we play video games to socialize, more than not. As much as some introverted PVE Guys want to think it's the opposite, the fact is that the vast majority of the largest, and most successful IP's are MP Games, like LoL, CS, Dota2, Rocket League, Ark, Minecraft, WoW, Star Citizen, CoD, Battlefield, SC2, FIFA, Madden, etc. Shoot, even ESO was a success.

And Racing is 100% about competing against, OTHER HUMANS. So, we must embrace it. It will be TOUGH, and we will have to suffer for a few years while we get it figured out, but the sooner we embrace it and figure it out, the better.

Just my two cents, and I'm pretty hungover/drunk to as always you might want to disregard everything I say

 

[mrPetros]

guess it doesn't hurt that one of the most important franchises for sony is entirely online, ie requires a ps plus sub to play either...