What Phone Do You Have?

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All smartphones have battery "problems". With some use, they last one, maybe two days with luck. That's on all smartphones, Android, Windows or iOS..

Screen problems, neven saw that and I already had a few smartphones on my hand. Overheating, that's a problem on anything if you do heavy use on the phone. It's a hardware issue, not software.
 
So, uh, guys... Question!

I've initially looked for a phone for around 200 EUR as my current one was biting the dust. It's running again, though, so I might as well try to hold on to it until I've got a slightly bigger budget. Different premise now, so I thought I might as well use this threat to ask my questions :lol:

I would just like to ask for some pointers on what phone to go for. I'd like it to have the following things, but I've got no clue which phones come with the features I'm looking for. My priorities, in descending order:
  • Less than 400 € (rules out most of the top of the line phones, sadly)
  • Screen size should be between 4.7 and 5.0 inches
  • I'd like a full HD display
  • Long battery life would be great, it should get me through some 8 to 10 hours of active usage (not talk time, just texting and browsing and stuff)
  • I'd love expandable memory. Not a must if the internal storage capacity is big enough (more than 16GB would be neat)
  • Android 4.4, and as close to stock as possible (don't like bloatware)
So far, I'm considering the Nexus 5 - only phone I've found that does match all the criteria. But I'm a bit of noob when it comes to phones and reading the article that @2clicks linked above, it seems like I've not even heard of some rather decent brands :dopey: Also, what's best - to wait for some sort of christmas offers or to wait until christmas is over? Might be a bit early to start looking around, given that I won't be buying for another two months. However, being utterly clueless makes that a necessity, I fear :lol:
 
kikie
Problems with these Android devices were:

* battery
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What smartphone doesn't have a battery that lasts for less than 12 hours with all connections on, and extensive use that goes beyond calls and texting? His WP smartphone must have such superior battery life if he is repulsed by Androids so much!
* screen problems
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???
* overheating
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The standard micro-USB charger for Android is not as universal as you think. If the potential difference of the charger doesn't match the potential difference of the battery, things are gonna get hot.
* etc...
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No offence, but it seems like your friend is a hipster. WP is currently third in global sales (out of 4), and he likes rooting for the underdog. There is nothing inherently wrong with WP devices, but the cripplingly slow app support when it has already arrived on iOS/Android months ago is a big turn-off for me, and your friend cannot say that Android is avoidable based on those ambiguous reasons. You should get a ThL 5000 or a Xiaomi Mi4 (if they're available) just to prove him wrong. The Huawei Ascend G7 is also worth a look.
 
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Luminis
Ah, screw it, I'm placing a preorder for the OnePlus One. The Nexus 5 is still going to be there to fall back upon, I guess.
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There will be a big improvement for new Android phones regarding CPU, GPU and battery life when the Snapdragon 810 processor comes out so if you waited the extra months as you initially were suggesting, more options might open up. I wonder also how long it will take for the Samsung Exynos 5433 to show up in more phones. The OnePlus One seems like a decent phone at current price.
 
Well... i have to finalize my preorder on the 27th. That's when I'll know how long I'll have to wait for the phone to be shipped. I might cancel the preorder if the wait's too long... We'll see how things pan out.

/edit: Besides, the Snapdragon 810's going to be found in phones that are way out of my budget, anyways, right? :D
 
I got a Nexus 5 about a week ago and it's fantastic. The OnePlusOne is supposed to be terrific as well, but I've not had any experience with it.
 
Kamuifanboy
Well, what does everyone think? iPhone 6 Plus or Nexus 6?
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iPhone 6 Plus is a phone that has the latest technology inside on it which the next Nexus phone next year might catch up with so if performance and battery life is concern then I think iPhone 6 Plus is the way to go.
 
Well, the Nexus 6 is supposed to cost somewhere around 450€, from what I found on Google. Quite expensive, for my taste. And the iPhone 6 Plus costs nearly twice as much, right? Way more than I'd ever pay for a smartphone, so that's reason enough for me to say Nexus 6.

Besides, it's kinda staggering that the Nexus 6 is supposedly equipped with a screen that has a higher resolution than my 27'' PC monitor :lol:
 
I in anyway will never get the iPhone 6. At least for the time being.. I won't be paying a phone that's priced twice the price of the HTC One M8. I mean, it's just a phone anyway, right? Just get the Nexus 6 and you'll be happier...
 
Saidur_Ali
so if performance and battery life is concern then I think iPhone 6 Plus is the way to go.
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Don't forget that Android Lollipop has Project Volta, which, coupled with ART, can reportedly squeeze unheard amounts of battery life out of an already sizeable 3200 mAh battery. Also, Nexus 6 has 3 GB of RAM, compared to the iPhone 6's 1 GB. iPhone 6 does have a more modern, 64-bit CPU, but that hardly matters, until we get to the year 2038...
 
Nexus 6, no question. The iPhone has a 1.4 GHz processor, the Nexus has 2.7 GHz and triple the RAM. The Nexus is in a totally different class when it comes to raw computing power.
 
I have been a long term Android User (Sony Xperia Acro, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 3) but, all of them seem to run into trouble after a year of use. Where my friends with iPhones seem to be able to use them for 2 years no problem at all. Do this issue not occur with the Nexus models? Maybe it is better because it is using stock Android?
 
2clicks
Don't forget that Android Lollipop has Project Volta, which, coupled with ART, can reportedly squeeze unheard amounts of battery life out of an already sizeable 3200 mAh battery. Also, Nexus 6 has 3 GB of RAM, compared to the iPhone 6's 1 GB. iPhone 6 does have a more modern, 64-bit CPU, but that hardly matters, until we get to the year 2038...
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64-bit ARM CPU started mattering back in 2013 with the iPhone 5S, makes a big difference and with Android L and Snapdragon 810 CPU, difference will start to show.
Beeblebrox237
Nexus 6, no question. The iPhone has a 1.4 GHz processor, the Nexus has 2.7 GHz and triple the RAM. The Nexus is in a totally different class when it comes to raw computing power.
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The iPhone 6 is in a different class aheead, however like the Nexus 9 tablet has catched up with Apple using Tegra K1, they will also take a big leap forward in phone department after the Nexus 6 as Qualcomm will have catched up.

Kamuifanboy
I have been a long term Android User (Sony Xperia Acro, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 3) but, all of them seem to run into trouble after a year of use. Where my friends with iPhones seem to be able to use them for 2 years no problem at all. Do this issue not occur with the Nexus models? Maybe it is better because it is using stock Android?
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I think personally Nexus 6 is priced too highly given time it is coming out, the only phone on market that runs Android that can compete with iPhone 6 Plus is the Exynos version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 so if looking for Android phone you should get that.
 
Saidur_Ali
The iPhone 6 is in a different class aheead, however like the Nexus 9 tablet has catched up with Apple using Tegra K1, they will also take a big leap forward in phone department after the Nexus 6 as Qualcomm will have catched up.
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How is the iPhone in a class ahead if it has inferior performance?
 
Saidur_Ali
Because it has superior performance and also with its manufacturing process being at 20nm node, should also benefit from power savings too against majority of Android phones on market.
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So 1.4 GHz is superior to 2.7 GHz and 1GB is superior to 3 GB? Sure you didn't mean "because apple fanboi"?
 
Saidur_Ali
Because it has superior performance and also with its manufacturing process being at 20nm node, should also benefit from power savings too against majority of Android phones on market.
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That makes no sense. Look at the facts and you'll see that the iPhone 6 plus is no more impressive in terms of computing performance than my old Nokia Lumia 710. Saying that the iPhone has superior performance to the Nexus 6 is like saying that a 2.2 Camry can beat a Veyron in a street race.

Legro
Hardware isn't only thing that makes difference. That said, saying that iPhone is better sound even more wrong.
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True, and iPhones are very well built, but Apple aren't the only ones who can build a nice phone.
 
BobK
So 1.4 GHz is superior to 2.7 GHz and 1GB is superior to 3 GB? Sure you didn't mean "because apple fanboi"?
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Yes I did mean the first part, I also wonder what cost benefit in terms of power consumption is versus 1GB compared to 3GB and I imagine it helps for phone size slightly and profit margins and helps older phones performance work well with 1GB but I think they should really have gone with 2GB like the iPAD Air 2. I never had an iPhone as my personal phone before and may never will. Can't stand the iOS file structure.
Legro
Hardware isn't only thing that makes difference. That said, saying that iPhone is better sound even more wrong.
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It should be in real world performance simply because the CPU has very high IPC and it will likely be able to run both cores at full clock speed for longer. Nexus 6 might be able to match it while running at peak performance if optimised to use all cores and if possible for phone to run at full clock speed but it will likely take a lot more power to do the same task as well heat up device more and likely lead to throttling.
Beeblebrox237
That makes no sense. Look at the facts and you'll see that the iPhone 6 plus is no more impressive in terms of computing performance than my old Nokia Lumia 710. Saying that the iPhone has superior performance to the Nexus 6 is like saying that a 2.2 Camry can beat a Veyron in a street race.


True, and iPhones are very well built, but Apple aren't the only ones who can build a nice phone.
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OK on a Google benchmark, how come an iPhone 6 can beat the fastest Android tablet:

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That Lumia 710 must be impressive if it is that much faster than the Lumia 930. I am all ears to hear some facts...
 
Hm, I just looked for some benchmarks. The iPhone beats the Note 4 (similar hardware to the Nexus 6, right?) in single core performance on Geekbecnh but the Note has the upper hands in multi core performance. The iPhone is better on GFXbench3 but does worse on 3DMark. Sunspider 1.0.1 has the Note on top, 1.0.2 the iPhone (Source). So, yeah, seemingly depends on what benchmark you're picking. But that certainly doesn't look like the kind of landslide victory I'd expect, given the price difference.

One could be very selective with the benchmarks, though, and make either phone look superior, I assume.
 
Luminis
Hm, I just looked for some benchmarks. The iPhone beats the Note 4 (similar hardware to the Nexus 6, right?) in single core performance on Geekbecnh but the Note has the upper hands in multi core performance. The iPhone is better on GFXbench3 but does worse on 3DMark. Sunspider 1.0.1 has the Note on top, 1.0.2 the iPhone (Source). So, yeah, seemingly depends on what benchmark you're picking. But that certainly doesn't look like the kind of landslide victory I'd expect, given the price difference.

One could be very selective with the benchmarks, though, and make either phone look superior, I assume.
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It might have a small advantage on multi-core in some benchmarks but I imagine not many apps will be able to make use of all the cores at maximum clock speed. The iPhone 6 does not suffer too badly from throttling. Given it also is on 20nm, it should run cooler and take less battery life too and also has more advanced architecture which should add to its efficiency level. This is how much the old Note and Nexus throttled and that is with a lower clock speed than what the newer ones will be at same 28nm node. I imagine Apple could have put the A8X that is in the iPad Air 2 and obliterate any current Android phones out there in all departments in benchmarks but I think they went for the best performance for thinness level they are aiming at with something that won't throttle much. I think the Nexus 6 is over 42% thicker than iPhone 6 Plus for example and coming to the market later than the iPhone 6 Plus.

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Saidur_Ali
coming to the market later than the iPhone 6 Plus.
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For roughly half the price (if the rumours about the Nexus 6's price I've seen are correct).

And still, not beating the competition in performance unless throttling is factored in? I don't know. Doesn't seem like the iPhone 6 Plus would offer great bang for your buck. Just my impression, really.
 

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