When is GT6 coming. PD has good reason to speed things up.

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Ok, there are already rumors that the next Forza (Forza Motorsport 5) is under development. Here's the link.
http://www.forzaplanet.net/turn-10-beginning-work-on-forza-motorsport-5/

PD, you need to hurry up and release GT6.
2 Reasons:

1.) If FM5 comes out before GT6, then it will be an embarrassment to PD, because the Forza series has improved drastically in a short period of time, and soon PD is going to be overtaken by T10 in all aspects.

2.) The PS3 Super-Slim, (or whatever it's called) was just released so that at least means the PS3 still has life left in it. If PD can release GT6 ASAP on it, we would still get a decent amount of game time before PS4 comes out. Also most of us can't afford to get a new console on release just for a GT game, so keep it on PS3.

So PD needs to do everything to get GT6 released as soon as possible without it being a disappointment, otherwise they will be humiliated and lose a lot of fans to T10, Microsoft and the Forza Series. Hire more people of it means getting the job done quicker, GT6 could be the make or break game for the future of Gran Turismo.
 
Yes, but the sooner we get GT6, the less polished it will probably be. Look what happened when Sony rushed PD for GT5.
 
porthillking
Yes, but the sooner we get GT6, the less polished it will probably be. Look what happened when Sony rushed PD for GT5.
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Kaz said 3 years ago GT5 could be released at any time, yet Sony rushed them?
 
Rushton1996
Ok, there are already rumors that the next Forza (Forza Motorsport 5) is under development. Here's the link.
http://www.forzaplanet.net/turn-10-beginning-work-on-forza-motorsport-5/

PD, you need to hurry up and release GT6.
2 Reasons:

1.) If FM5 comes out before GT6, then it will be an embarrassment to PD, because the Forza series has improved drastically in a short period of time, and soon PD is going to be overtaken by T10 in all aspects.

2.) The PS3 Super-Slim, (or whatever it's called) was just released so that at least means the PS3 still has life left in it. If PD can release GT6 ASAP on it, we would still get a decent amount of game time before PS4 comes out. Also most of us can't afford to get a new console on release just for a GT game, so keep it on PS3.

So PD needs to do everything to get GT6 released as soon as possible without it being a disappointment, otherwise they will be humiliated and lose a lot of fans to T10, Microsoft and the Forza Series. Hire more people of it means getting the job done quicker, GT6 could be the make or break game for the future of Gran Turismo.
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My fellow Australian (?) What are you talking about?

"1.) If FM5 comes out before GT6, then it will be an embarrassment" No, no it really won't. PD is a tiny division within Sony that don't really care about the bigger Microsoft company, PD take their time, so it doesn't matter if PD take longer, they'll have a better quality game almost certainly.

" because the Forza series has improved drastically in a short period of time, and soon PD is going to be overtaken by T10 in all aspects."

I would actually, kinda enjoy seeing that, despite disliking xbox, and not even owning one, but it'd force PD to actually pay attention and possibly adapt...but it's virtually impossible. Forza is a racing game, GT5 is a racing 'simulator' game, they aren't really on the same playing field at the moment, Forza is improving, and PD should take notice, but if FM5 is as refined and physically accurate as GT5 (or more), that'd be a significant jump from where it is now.

"2.) The PS3 Super-Slim...was just released so that at least means the PS3 still has life left in it." No, not really, it means Sony are trying to squeeze whatever little juice is still left inside this virtually atrophied cow, it should've been shot in the head, 09/10 the console is way too old, the technology is completely pushed to the limit with GT5, there's no way GT6 should be on this console, there's a thread dedicated to this argument, and they're right, GT6 should be PS4, and it almost certainly will be at the speed at which PD move.

"If PD can release GT6 ASAP on it, we would still get a decent amount of game time before PS4 comes out." 1-2 years? That's if it's released tomorrow and the PS4 comes out in 2014, maximum 2015, which would be an insanely long wait period, not worth it, GT5 is the only GT that should be on the PS3.

"Also most of us can't afford to get a new console on release just for a GT game, so keep it on PS3." Today, maybe not, but if the console is released in a year, maybe mid-2014, the worldwide economy could've taken off more by then, and people's income could be relatively higher, more people back at work, ect, so who knows.
 
2 of the first 3 replies are pointless? Noo!
MuoNiuLa
Kaz said 3 years ago GT5 could be released at any time, yet Sony rushed them?
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:dopey:
June 2009 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-yamauchi-we-could-release-gt5-now
“The scale of this title is just dizzying, so daily progress is slow, but it’s still going forward at a steady clip,” adding, “All the basic stuff is complete, but we’re trying to give everything that little bit extra at present.”

“We could release it any time we want, really, but I want to have that classic GT-style ‘did we really have to go this far?’ feel going. I want to go way beyond gamer expectations.”
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X-Power
Sony gave PD 5 years and $80million to make GT5. That is the exact opposite of rushing them.
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"Rushing" isn't the right word to use.
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Still...
October 2009
He has recently, however, revealed that ongoing pressure from Sony to Release GT 5 can be "difficult to bear."

He explains in a recent talk with Meristation: “Not in terms of content, but the pressure really, if we can call it that, of the delivery dates are sometimes difficult to bear.”
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couple of months after GT5 released
https://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-wanted-another-2-years-for-gt5-development/
The FIA GT and DTM racing series were both planned for GT5, but eventually had to be taken out.

When asked if GT5 is so big that it will be released in “stages”, Kazunori responded “The effect of complexity and size to the development time is very big. Practically speaking I would have wanted another two years of development time.”
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1) The only way that Kaz should "care" about the Forza series is if FM5 adds everything GT5 does and doesn't have. Specifically, FM5 needs time change (which includes night racing obviously) and weather. I don't expect a track editor, but there's still more to it.

2)No rushing GT6 to get it on the PS3. If it was meant for the PS4, it was meant for the PS4. If on PS3, there just isn't any real reason, especially the presence of other games, to release it sooner. It'll end up being a "what if?" problem like GT5 was.
 
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Rushton1996
GT6 could be the make or break game for the future of Gran Turismo.
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While a slightly over dramatic way of putting it, I can agree with the general sentiment. GT6 is going to be need to be good, but I think common sense is more important than PD speeding up.

Even if they could speed up and model hundreds upon hundreds of cars and tracks, if it's all packaged with the same moronic design decisions like GT5, then no amount of speeding up will help them.
 
Two things:

- The longer PD takes, the better the result of GT6. Who cares if FM5 comes out before GT6? FM5 will be highly improved from FM4 but GT6 will come out higher than usual expectations, and top FM5. Basically what I'm saying is best for last.

- PS4 won't come out anytime soon, it's 2015 and most likely later, research.

All I'm saying is do not rush PD. GT5 is great but there are complaints. GT6 will come out for the PS3, so be patient. This will most likely be worth our $60.
 
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Toronado
The "any time we want" quote (or another, earlier form of it) dates back several months earlier than that. He said it in an E3 interview when he came out of seclusion to announce GTPSP.
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Changed it, now, in the original post.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-yamauchi-we-could-release-gt5-now

Conza
Source.
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There just isn't one. I wonder why people do that.

deep_sky
While a slightly over dramatic way of putting it, I can agree with the general sentiment. GT6 is going to be need to be good, but I think common sense is more important than PD speeding up.

Even if they could speed up and model hundreds upon hundreds of cars and tracks, if it's all packaged with the same moronic design decisions like GT5, then no amount of speeding up will help them.
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I doubt how it ends up will affect sales much, but GT's legacy won't be the same if 6 turns out to be like GT5. That's the only thing that should be in jeopardy and is major, for sure.
 
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DriftMissle
FM5 will be highly improved from FM4 but GT6 will come out higher than usual expectations, and top FM5. Basically what I'm saying is best for last.
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Always nice to meet a psychic.

- PS4 won't come out anytime soon, it's 2015 and most likely later, research.
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What research? Most people expect it by no later than holiday 2014, many putting it as early as holiday 2013.

GT6 was announced to come out next year anyway
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It was? You should let Jordan know and give him your source.
 
Conza
Source.
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It was said in a GTP News article, it had to do with Yamauchi saying he didn't want to announce the release date because of complaints and other reasons.

EDIT: My mistake, I probably read it wrong, it hasn't been announced for next year but here's the article.
 
Kaz going out of his way to not announce release dates to keep people from getting angry if they miss them automatically means that is coming out within the next year anyway?


Kaz really is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.
 
DriftMissle
- The longer PD takes, the better the result of GT6. Who cares if FM5 comes out before GT6? FM5 will be highly improved from FM4 but GT6 will come out higher than usual expectations, and top FM5. Basically what I'm saying is best for last.
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Can I borrow your time machine so I can see this for myself?
 
Good angle, conza; However, I personally wouldn't mind waiting for GT6, granted they put alot more energy into GT5. Coming out with GT5 rushed with 1986 graphics for a huge percentage of cars was a travesty, so many amazing cars that someone like me that uses cockpit view, just doesn't even use, due to lack of 2012 standards, ya wouldn't see sqared off graphics on Forza.. Not to mention there are so many highly important racing cars that we dont have, Audi R8 RC standard graphics? Come on, it's a newly introduced car specifically for GT5..BMW M3, Z4, ferrari, only a F1??? Bums me out consistantly...
 
I think making GT6 for the PS3 would be a bad idea. The truth is (weather we like it or not) the GT series and the Forza series are competitors. We know Forza 5 is in development and we know GT6 is in development.

With Forza Horizon coming out this year, we can assume that Forza 5 will come out sometime next year or early 2014, which means it will probably launch on the Xbox 720. No matter how good GT6 is, there is no way it can compete with a next generation Forza.

As for the price of the PS4, I think it will be reasonable. The blu-ray tech has gotten much cheaper, also Sony is rumored to switch from the cell tech to a more simple quad core chip. If Sony and PD worked together they could launch the PS4 like this:

PS4 Base model: PS4, Power cord, Dual Shock, HDMI, Standard video cables, USB charger, 125gb solid state HD. $349.99

PS4 Premium model: Everything from base model plus, 250gb solid state HD, media remote, blu ray movie, copy of GT6. $399.99
 
DriftMissle
GT6 will come out for the PS3, so be patient. This will most likely be worth our $60.
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Exactly.

There is lots of evidence that GT6 will be a PS3 game.

Sony continues to maintain that the PS3 will have a ten year life span.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ife-cycle.html

When asked if there would be a GT6 Kaz said this:

“Yes. You won't have to wait as long as you did for GT5. GT5 was basically the creation of a whole new operating system, and developing GT6 will be like adding new applications that run on that new operating system.”

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20091103/SEMA/911039983

GT6 is based on GT5 which is a PS3 game. It will run on the GT5 system like kaz said. It will have enough tracks to make your hat fall off and have lots of new apps.

I believe one of those new applications is the Toyota 86 data logger which they have already said will be released in 2013.

To have a real world auto manufacturer team up with a game developer is a big deal. I doubt very seriously that this is simply going to be an update for a 3 year old video game. No this is going to be a selling point for a new video game, one that will be released in 2013.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7392927
https://www.gtplanet.net/real-world-d...rismo-in-2013/

GT7 will come out on the PS4 and they will have to start from scratch just like they did with GT5.
 
DriftMissle
- PS4 won't come out anytime soon, it's 2015 and most likely later, research.

All I'm saying is do not rush PD. GT5 is great but there are complaints. GT6 will come out for the PS3, so be patient. This will most likely be worth our $60.
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PS4 will be Xmas 2013 or 2014 at the very latest, they've already stated they want to release before the 720 which is expected to drop next year. Also everyone was more than patient with GT5 (delay after delay) and look how it turned out...
 
Conza
I would actually, kinda enjoy seeing that, despite disliking xbox, and not even owning one, but it'd force PD to actually pay attention and possibly adapt...but it's virtually impossible. Forza is a racing game, GT5 is a racing 'simulator' game, they aren't really on the same playing field at the moment, Forza is improving, and PD should take notice, but if FM5 is as refined and physically accurate as GT5 (or more), that'd be a significant jump from where it is now.
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They're both simulators, and FM4 currently already simulates a bunch of things to a higher degree than GT5 does. I'll agree they aren't on the same playing field, though probably not in the same way you mean it :).

DriftMissle
Two things:

- The longer PD takes, the better the result of GT6.
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By this reasoning, GT5 should've been by far the best game in the series. And yet...

Who cares if FM5 comes out before GT6? FM5 will be highly improved from FM4 but GT6 will come out higher than usual expectations, and top FM5. Basically what I'm saying is best for last.
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A guess at most, but the point I'd be more interested in: why would GT6 have to be the last?

All I'm saying is do not rush PD. GT5 is great but there are complaints. GT6 will come out for the PS3, so be patient. This will most likely be worth our $60.
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As someone who'd much rather prefer GT6 on PS3, even I'm questioning how likely that is these days. The only fact about which console the next GT will end up on? There's no concrete answer.
 
machschnel
Goal for GT6: HUMAN DRAMA

Goal status: ACHIEVED
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Haha. Very true. Nothing new for PD.

As far as GT6 on the PS3; it has a great base of console owners, that's for sure. The new slim PS3 doesn't hurt, either. More users = more potential for profit.


The fact that GT5 has laid down a system for GT6 leads me to believe GT6 should only require a good 3 years of work.
 
The problem with GT6 is it has to be something special. It will not only need to compete with Forza, but also potentially with Project Cars and for casual gamers with Grid 2 and Maybe the next Shift incarnation?
If PD rush the final development of GT6 it'll end up the same as GT5, a very good game let down by corners being cut.
If PD take their time and are beaten to release by the competition, they could lose a lot of sales.
 
PD has a second studio now and the new one is located in the city of Fukuoka. It should be a place with lots of bright minds when it comes to game development and PD actually went out and said that they intend to hire local developers and engineers. It's not clear whether they wanted to expand the team of 150 people but one could hope that they have become better organized and structured. Game design will hopefully thrive on this and the modeling department may also have improved its efficiency. All this could indicate that PD aims to do better and release a new game sooner rather than later.

When they developed GT5 the team was solely located in Tokyo where they also had to focus on GT PSP and implement expanded online possibilities. Here's hoping that they have settled to make a proper GT6.
 
starbutt033
with GT5 rushed with 1986 graphics for a huge percentage of cars was a travesty
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oh so standards look like this?
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Chrunch Houston
Exactly.

When asked if there would be a GT6 Kaz said this:

“Yes. You won't have to wait as long as you did for GT5. GT5 was basically the creation of a whole new operating system, and developing GT6 will be like adding new applications that run on that new operating system.”

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20091103/SEMA/911039983

GT6 is based on GT5 which is a PS3 game. It will run on the GT5 system like kaz said. It will have enough tracks to make your hat fall off and have lots of new apps.

I believe one of those new applications is the Toyota 86 data logger which they have already said will be released in 2013.

To have a real world auto manufacturer team up with a game developer is a big deal. I doubt very seriously that this is simply going to be an update for a 3 year old video game. No this is going to be a selling point for a new video game, one that will be released in 2013.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7392927
https://www.gtplanet.net/real-world-d...rismo-in-2013/ .
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Very good find, thought out well and LIKELY TO HAPPEN. Im surprised no one else cares about that evidence.
 

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