Who else is giving up on GT Sport?

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Good.

Except that I didn't say that, what I said was that rushed reviews missed a lot of issues that the more thorough reviews recognized.
How do you know they were rushed?

That aside, its exactly that kind of thing that the Metacritic weighting works to flatten out.

I would argue that the early nature of PC2 reviews had far more to do with them not imposing a release day review embargo than anything else, the quality, depth and detail of all reviews vary, regardless of the day they come out or the title involved.

As an example the one I linked to above was one of the later GTS reviews to come out, would you describe it as in-depth?
 
How do you know they were rushed?

That aside, its exactly that kind of thing that the Metacritic weighting works to flatten out.

I would argue that the early nature of PC2 reviews had far more to do with them not imposing a release day review embargo than anything else, the quality, depth and detail of all reviews vary, regardless of the day they come out or the title involved.

As an example the one I linked to above was one of the later GTS reviews to come out, would you describe it as in-depth?

It is simply my opinion based on their content. Also, you're right superficial is probably a better word than rushed. Although in my opinion, being rushed to deliver a review could definitely be causal to lack of depth. Their lack of indepth coverage is what is bothering to me, not how long it took them to review it.

IGN - 92 - Barely a mention of a single bug.

Gaming Age 91 - Not a single mention of bugs plus "Even though I am not a fan, I did have fun playing and am looking forward to dive deeper into the title. It’s definitely not for everyone, but I still recommend at least checking it out." How indepth do you think his review was?

Gameover 90 - No mention of bugs and this statement. "Everything is perfected to the minute detail". Really?? Is he playing the same game I am?

By contrast.

Gameinformer - 78 - Acknowledgement of issues you would only see if you had played more than superficially. "The A.I. cars (which are optional in multiplayer) tend to comically bunch and crash on busy corners, and yet players are penalized and told to give positions back for ticky-tack or sometimes phantom infractions. You can lay down a good qualifying time only to be mysteriously beat by several seconds by the end of the round by the rest of the A.I. field."

Gamespot - 70 - Acknowledgement of bugs. Including this statement which mirrors my own opinion. "It's a shame, then, that there's always this nagging feeling in the back of your mind that a bug or moment of AI madness will disrupt the whole thing--and more often than not, it will."

GT Planet 3.5 - Again, acknowledgment of bugs. - "Equal parts ambitious and buggy, this is definitely the successor to the first game. As a sim to emulate multiple real-world disciplines, this is the best choice on the market — just be prepared for rough edges."

I just don't get why people are trashing the relatively bug free experience of GT Sport and giving Pcars 2 a free ride? I feel both games have potential with the proper support after release. Both games to me are in the 75 to 80 range with the issues bringing them down different individually.

I don't know how we got to here from "Who else is giving up on GT Sport" and my goal is not to bash Pcars 2 all the time. I am willing to agree to disagree if you are.
 
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It is simply my opinion based on their content. Also, you're right superficial is probably a better word than rushed. Although in my opinion, being rushed to deliver a review could definitely be causal to lack of depth. Their lack of indepth coverage is what is bothering to me, not how long it took them to review it.

IGN - 92 - Barely a mention of a single bug.

Gaming Age 91 - Not a single mention of bugs plus "Even though I am not a fan, I did have fun playing and am looking forward to dive deeper into the title. It’s definitely not for everyone, but I still recommend at least checking it out." How indepth do you think his review was?

Gameover 90 - No mention of bugs and this statement. "Everything is perfected to the minute detail". Really?? Is he playing the same game I am?

By contrast.

Gameinformer - 78 - Acknowledgement of issues you would only see if you had played more than superficially. "The A.I. cars (which are optional in multiplayer) tend to comically bunch and crash on busy corners, and yet players are penalized and told to give positions back for ticky-tack or sometimes phantom infractions. You can lay down a good qualifying time only to be mysteriously beat by several seconds by the end of the round by the rest of the A.I. field."

Gamespot - 70 - Acknowledgement of bugs. Including this statement which mirrors my own opinion. "It's a shame, then, that there's always this nagging feeling in the back of your mind that a bug or moment of AI madness will disrupt the whole thing--and more often than not, it will."

GT Planet 3.5 - Again, acknowledgment of bugs. - "Equal parts ambitious and buggy, this is definitely the successor to the first game. As a sim to emulate multiple real-world disciplines, this is the best choice on the market — just be prepared for rough edges."

I just don't get why people are trashing the relatively bug free experience of GT Sport and giving Pcars 2 a free ride? I feel both games have potential with the proper support after release. Both games to me are in the 75 to 80 range with the issues bringing them down different individually.

I don't know how we got to here from "Who else is giving up on GT Sport" and my goal is not to bash Pcars 2 all the time. I am willing to agree to disagree if you are.
None of which I disagree with, which is why I'm advocating a weighted aggregate system rather than picking specific reviews that suit an individuals personal desire for a title to hit a certain score.
 
It is simply my opinion based on their content. Also, you're right superficial is probably a better word than rushed. Although in my opinion, being rushed to deliver a review could definitely be causal to lack of depth. Their lack of indepth coverage is what is bothering to me, not how long it took them to review it.

IGN - 92 - Barely a mention of a single bug.

Gaming Age 91 - Not a single mention of bugs plus "Even though I am not a fan, I did have fun playing and am looking forward to dive deeper into the title. It’s definitely not for everyone, but I still recommend at least checking it out." How indepth do you think his review was?

Gameover 90 - No mention of bugs and this statement. "Everything is perfected to the minute detail". Really?? Is he playing the same game I am?

By contrast.

Gameinformer - 78 - Acknowledgement of issues you would only see if you had played more than superficially. "The A.I. cars (which are optional in multiplayer) tend to comically bunch and crash on busy corners, and yet players are penalized and told to give positions back for ticky-tack or sometimes phantom infractions. You can lay down a good qualifying time only to be mysteriously beat by several seconds by the end of the round by the rest of the A.I. field."

Gamespot - 70 - Acknowledgement of bugs. Including this statement which mirrors my own opinion. "It's a shame, then, that there's always this nagging feeling in the back of your mind that a bug or moment of AI madness will disrupt the whole thing--and more often than not, it will."

GT Planet 3.5 - Again, acknowledgment of bugs. - "Equal parts ambitious and buggy, this is definitely the successor to the first game. As a sim to emulate multiple real-world disciplines, this is the best choice on the market — just be prepared for rough edges."

I just don't get why people are trashing the relatively bug free experience of GT Sport and giving Pcars 2 a free ride? I feel both games have potential with the proper support after release. Both games to me are in the 75 to 80 range with the issues bringing them down different individually.

I don't know how we got to here from "Who else is giving up on GT Sport" and my goal is not to bash Pcars 2 all the time. I am willing to agree to disagree if you are.

How many in-depth hours have you logged in to inform your opinion?
 
You can make all the excuses you want and spin things whatever ways you can think of but GTsport is the lowest rated GT ever and lowest rated of F7 and PC2 and it self and it is the lowest rated on amazon.

Yes and after 4 weeks on sale GTsport has yet to match GT6 release week number in Japan, it being the second largest market for GT in the world.

GTsport
150286
17.670
9045
5,439 (182,440)

GT6 204,784 first week.
Japan is the third largest market for GT, not second.
 
Not even close. Check your facts.

I'm going to guess that he's considering every country in Europe its own market, as opposed to the more traditional bundling approach we're all used to (and PD itself uses on its official site).
 
Man every 10 lap race run into at least two people who keep trying to knock those whom overtake them off the track. These pathetic losers whom are a minority are ruining it for everyone. Managed to go from 17th to 10th place, catch up to player in 9th, he was blocking me off the straight on Dragon Tail or whatever it's called(current Gr.4). Passed him on the straight and he made a good move on inside but I recovered instantly and overtook him and the whole next 3 turns he's trying to hit me off the track and I had to avoid an collision. I was getting SR drops in all these hits because this penalty system enables players to dive right into the door panel of drivers beside punting them off the track. So he slowed me down and we get to that really tight corner before the tunnel, I take a much better line and a Mazda goes wide, I pass him and he crashes into me 3 times until he spun me out. And I mean intentional nudes into my door panel over and over until I finally spun out.

No penalty at all for him, an idiot like that still has an S rating. No wonder I keep running into such idiots. Would have caught up to 8th had it not been for him and the other guy. This game interprets that as you trying to block the inside so anyone can keep punting players off the track and suffer no consequences. Bunch of pathetic players that need to go find another game that suits them.
 
I can only laugh on this thread now.

Did the address the lack of cars and tracks lack of weather and modyfing, Nope and not even close nope nope.

Thus the main complaints still stand, you'll be racing on the same tracks with the same cars with little variety overall.
 
I'm not giving up on GT Sport, but I just might give up on Daily Races. I mean, what's the point if your qualifying time is going to get deleted when matching completes? I set a time of 2:02 at Suzuka and should have started in 3rd, but instead I'm thrown to the back of the grid along with 8 other drivers, 4 of which commented that their laps were removed as well. Ridiculous. 👎
 
Facts - Europe is a continent not a nation.
We were talking about markets, not nations. As Slip has pointed out, official sales figures are sorted a particular way and, as far as I know, outside of Japan, individual countries are not listed in official sales figures. In the official sales figures Japan is the third-ranked market for sales.
 
Well PD just gave me a pretty good reason to not give up on it! Still we need more tracks, improvements to physics/handling and AI. This is a very good first step to winning me over.
 
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We were talking about markets, not nations. As Slip has pointed out, official sales figures are sorted a particular way and, as far as I know, outside of Japan, individual countries are not listed in official sales figures. In the official sales figures Japan is the third-ranked market for sales.

PD also lumps other markets in their "Europe" stats. is the middle east or africa Europe now, or do they consider them Asia.

Uk France Germany ex are individual markets, i don't understand why you are arguing common sense.
 
I think PD is just trying a different approach. GT has been around since 1997 I believe? I haven't missed a single GT since the PS1 days, and I'm still (somewhat) optimistic about the series. I plan on purchasing Sport at some time before the new year.

One thing that they've never disappointed in are the visuals and the physics. Everything will come with time., so long as they listen to their consumer base.
 
I think PD is just trying a different approach. GT has been around since 1997 I believe? I haven't missed a single GT since the PS1 days, and I'm still (somewhat) optimistic about the series. I plan on purchasing Sport at some time before the new year.

One thing that they've never disappointed in are the visuals and the physics. Everything will come with time., so long as they listen to their consumer base.
It's hard to argue with your comment about the visuals but there is plenty to argue with your comment on the physics. Plenty of people very disappointed with it.
 
It's hard to argue with your comment about the visuals but there is plenty to argue with your comment on the physics. Plenty of people very disappointed with it.


I haven't touched GT6 since 2015, and I have yet to try out GT Sport, so apologies for my lack of understanding. I don't follow the crowd enough to warrant what feels "right".
 
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