why drift?

Do you even have an AE86? Or a Type R? Or ever been in one? [/B][/QUOTE]



yes i ve been in both. i no my user name is reely stupid but i dont intend to sound like one or be like one. i do want to soup up a car but not ones that are all coverd in body kits and a fat spoiler in the back. all i want to do is get a car and build it to see if i know wut im actually doing. because im taking a auto class and i think engines are a complicated science just like anything mechanical. so IM NOT A RICER. just like those fruit movies such as " 2fast 2furios" or " the last race" ( super corny movie and its only 20 mins long)
 
Why argue anymore about grip vs drift? Everyone is gonna think what they want in the end.


But here's the reality...

Drifting is show. Drifting is saying "I'm a better driver than you are, look at my control my car past it's limits." It's like what the And 1 Mixtape Tour is to the NBA. Drifting in todays form was started in the mountain passes as basically a stunt. Guys racing would naturally oversteer, after a while controlling that oversteer in big slide caught on. I imagen it happened someday when a driver almost lost it and recovered in a long sketchy drift. Then was just physced up on a sweet recovery and began doing it regularly. Then it just spread from there.
Drift and racing don't mix for two reasons. Drifting IS slower, and drifting will take it's toll on your tires and that's not ideal for racing. Now don't get confused here. Drifting can actually be faster in some situations. That on depends on the drivers skill and the turn. You can enter the turn at a much higher speed and if your good enough, exit pretty quickly as well. That's more ideal for a final turn or something like that where the risk of drifting in a race would actually be worth it. Keiichi is living proof that it works.

Anyway... I think I'm done.
 
Originally posted by azndrifter318
yeah actually put some quality writing instead :D:D:D:D but no hate
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I apologize. I didnt want to come off as someone who just wanted to "get his custom avatar". Actually i just liked that part you said. I am capable of stringing coherent words from time to time :lol: , after all i started this thread didn't I? ;) Anyways, I just didn't have anywhere else to go after I read all those posts putting drifters down, maybe that's why I went here :lol: . Oh well, maybe neon should lock this or something. This ****'s ovah! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Its kinda off the topic but I dont want to start a new topic since it would just waste space so I have a question? If I learn how to drift in GT2, could I use the things I learned from GT2 drifting and be able to drift in GT3 or do I have to relearn how to drift?
 
i'm only learning drift...my grip style isn't perfect, but i'm too lazy to perfect it. drift is showing me the car's limits and helping me to control oversteer in ultra-overpowered cars. also, in grip racing, i've started to let my rear wheels slip out a bit close to the exit of the turn. it doesn't do much...but if i'm understeering, it helps me get to the right angle and depending on the turn, i get a slightly higher exit speed.
 
When I corner and try to drift, I brake slightly, let go of the gas before the apex of the turn, then I hold down a directional button to countersteer but I always go straight into a wall and dont move at all...Why is this?
 
Originally posted by unkn0wn
...oh yeah.. Brands like matrix, Revolution, and events called HIN, HID, etc. are rice pr0m0ters. same w/ fast and furious.
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I'll add APC to the list and say one thing about the Racing vrs. Drifting dispute:

Do what you want to do, because no matter what, no one here can stop you.
 
Drifting is Fun Especially in 2 player link battles. It would be great in simulation too but the AI of the came feels the need to bump me into the grass/sand/wall continuously. I keep the hp pretty fair in my races so we're inches away till the finish. How the hell do yall keep from being bumped?
 
milefile:
If u really want to race for speed, then u have to know that u cannot reach maximum perofromance for every corner using ONLY grip style drving. To reach maximum speed going into the corner may require a bit of "oversteer" and therefore what some ppl may call "drifting". The point of [NON-EXHIBITION]drifting is to get ur car straight and ready 2 accelerate earlier. Think about it, if ur using approximately 140 to enter the first Midfield corner(using drift) u'll prolly drop to 125-130kmh by the time u reach the apex. But, u'll also have the advantage of being able to accelarate earlier because ur car is already straightened up for the path ahead. On the other hand, if ur using grip style driving, u may b able 2 enter the corner at 140kmh and keep a steady 140kmh at the apex, but u will need 2 wait for ur car 2 straighten up, otherwise it may cause understeer.

This is just what i learnt from my own experiences from experimenting with both driving styles. And to be the fastest, u will need both techniques.
from TakumiAE86
 
Originally posted by pergatory
I can't remember the last time I saw someone claim drifting is faster, yet all the grip guys are always whining about this. Sounds to me like the grip guys are the ones who have something to prove. We know drifting is slower, but they don't seem to. There's no need to wait for GT4, it has already been proven time and time again. When you see a person feint for 100ft before the corner do you really think they're trying to beat their last lap time? I never even look at my lap time anymore unless I'm checking to see if I can save a replay.

As for being fast, drifting CAN be fast but that's not its purpose. In fact, if used properly, it can give you a great advantage over grip drivers, but that doesn't mean it's faster, it just means it's a racing advantage. It only works if you're in front, because passing a gripper using drift would speak very poorly of the grip driver. On the other hand, being a grip driver, have you ever tried to pass a good drifter? It's not easy. They block every decent line through the corner, so that you are forced to wait until the exit to make your move. The exit is where the drift has its advantage, because the drifter will obtain exit angle sooner and will be accelerating out of the corner long before the gripper, so this makes passing very difficult, especially on narrow courses.

So my point is, you're right, drifting is not racing. However, grip is not racing either. I grip the whole way to work and back every day, but am I racing?
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I agree with you.... Drifting isnt the fastest way around the corner for most guys but to keiichi tsuchiya(drift King) he claimed in some corner he can drift faster than other guys can grip... but it only apply to some corner... he himself also say drift is slow... but its fun... drifting doesnt always mean a bundle of smoke... Keiichi Tsuchiya when he was younger in the 20s his first offical race was a race full of ae86s and ae86 only... he race against alot of people.... and he said that he drifts in one perticular corner faster than any guy can grip... and drifting doesnt always mean slow speed... keiichi is known for drifting at very high speed... how he got his nickname "Drift king" is by beating the ae86 in that race by drifting... but he came in 2nd out of a bundle... for me thats great respect... im not claiming DRIFTING IS FASTER i admit as much as i like drifting its no where as fast as grip to me... but in some cases... i dont know.... I respect Drifting and dont want dumb kids to screw it up... i dont like the word ricers... cuz it offend me... but thats another story... i just want to keep THE ART OF DRIFTING ALIVE!!!


ROll
 
TRUE THAT!
ROll is totally right..

and that ricer thing thats going on IS pretty dumb..
gives us asains a bad name...
(not being racists or anything...but ..yeah..

i dont know...
its too damned early in the morning for me..
excuse me if im not making sense

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Originally posted by milefile
I play to be faster, and faster still. When I think I am fast, I get faster. Then I check out Racing Line and see what fast really is, and I play some more. I have never felt the urge to put any effort into drifting. That's why I play GT3, and not only me. I know one guy who's theory is that frustrated players who can't get fast decide to drift because it's easier. I wouldn't know. But if you think you've mastered grip driving, you haven't.
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Oh come on milefile. You know that theory is wrong. You guys brought that **** up before with me and I beat both you and red eye racer even though I drift everytime I play GT3. I think that good drifters are good grippers. Someone who knows how to handle a car so well while sliding is bound to know how to grip the car properly.
 
Originally posted by 240drift
Oh come on milefile. You know that theory is wrong. You guys brought that **** up before with me and I beat both you and red eye racer even though I drift everytime I play GT3. I think that good drifters are good grippers. Someone who knows how to handle a car so well while sliding is bound to know how to grip the car properly.
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you beat them using drift? :confused:
 
Eh. Grip is largely faster than drift, I don't see why anyone would even try to argue the opposite. The drift phenomenon has been come to be associated with massive backslides and plumes of smoke. I'm guessing the tiny, unnoticable "racing drifts" are the ones that would possibly be faster around the corners than grip, where the tyres lose their grip for just a second, and... yeah, I don't really know the terminology that well. Not even sure of it.

But I'm pretty sure that's what Tsuchiya does. Mind you, downhill roads and circuits are two entirely different things, thus why we don't see NASCAR drivers busting out the sideways skills. It'd be pointless wastes of speed. Which, largely, is what drifting is. Now watch, this debate will pop up again in another week.
 
thus why we don't see NASCAR drivers busting out the sideways skills. It'd be pointless wastes of speed. Which, largely, is what drifting is. Now watch, this debate will pop up again in another week.
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That's where you're wrong my friend! Keiichi himself drifted a NASCAR in a race and won.
 
a navy ship, go shoot urself
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Drift in a limo or bus?!? that is very.... EASY for The Driftking!!! He can drift in anything ;)... navy ship is as easy to drift as his very own ae86 tuned to 190ps :lol: and in real life he had drift in a van before so thats real... and army tank no biggie... just wait till best motoring 2004 verison X come out... he'll drift in all those cars :lol: :lol:


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