Why the GT1 Turbo is not a "drift car"
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ITCC_Andrew
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It's not what it wants to do? Every car with an engine worth talking about and RWD will oversteer if you hit the gas. So in a way, it's exactly what it wants to do.
They were not built to drift, I'll give you that much. But so are 99% of the cars in GT5, so I don't know what you're whining about.
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Right to clear this up.
Making a racecar drifter is like a cow laying eggs, interesting to look at but then just...... Wrong.
Making a racecar drifter is like a cow laying eggs, interesting to look at but then just...... Wrong.
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- NinjaMike808
There's a lot of cork sniffing going on in this thread.
I just tried it out and it drifts just fine. In fact, I'm rather new to drifting and I had my highest single corner score with this car. In fact, I'm usually really slow compared to a lot of different drifters, my 370Z isn't tuned for power but just for learning and this car might help me keep up with other people now.
Also, with the exception of the D1GP and Shigeno cars, you can't say "it wasn't meant to drift" because no car was meant to drift. Sure, it's mostly a race car and it has a lot of downforce, but there's nothing wrong with any of that. It drifts, and it drifts well. You wanna call out people for not having skill? What kinda ******** are you to insult some one like that? They're drifting, they're learning and they found a car that they like. I also dislike people saying it's too flashy or calling them "try hards". Gimme a break, it's drifting. The entire thing is supposed to be flashy and try hard. When it was invented, the man himself used to do it to put on a show. Not to mention, what's the difference between drifting the GT1 or the tank car or a kei car? You want people to look and say "wow" and you wanna do it well is all. You choose flashy colors and awesome rims and you make as much smoke as possible.
Anyone trying to say another driver it's a real driver because of some arbitrary rules that they've created for themselves is just plain wrong. Samuel Hübinette drifts in a viper, Stephan Verdier drifts in an STi. They're real drivers, not GT5 drivers. That makes AWD and fast cars legit.
And calling it unfair is nonsense. It's in the game. You wanna be fair? Get a faster car. You want some ass hole calling you slow to **** off? Boot him. I've been called slow, it's no big deal, man. You just gotta man up.
I just tried it out and it drifts just fine. In fact, I'm rather new to drifting and I had my highest single corner score with this car. In fact, I'm usually really slow compared to a lot of different drifters, my 370Z isn't tuned for power but just for learning and this car might help me keep up with other people now.
Also, with the exception of the D1GP and Shigeno cars, you can't say "it wasn't meant to drift" because no car was meant to drift. Sure, it's mostly a race car and it has a lot of downforce, but there's nothing wrong with any of that. It drifts, and it drifts well. You wanna call out people for not having skill? What kinda ******** are you to insult some one like that? They're drifting, they're learning and they found a car that they like. I also dislike people saying it's too flashy or calling them "try hards". Gimme a break, it's drifting. The entire thing is supposed to be flashy and try hard. When it was invented, the man himself used to do it to put on a show. Not to mention, what's the difference between drifting the GT1 or the tank car or a kei car? You want people to look and say "wow" and you wanna do it well is all. You choose flashy colors and awesome rims and you make as much smoke as possible.
Anyone trying to say another driver it's a real driver because of some arbitrary rules that they've created for themselves is just plain wrong. Samuel Hübinette drifts in a viper, Stephan Verdier drifts in an STi. They're real drivers, not GT5 drivers. That makes AWD and fast cars legit.
And calling it unfair is nonsense. It's in the game. You wanna be fair? Get a faster car. You want some ass hole calling you slow to **** off? Boot him. I've been called slow, it's no big deal, man. You just gotta man up.
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Welcome to the GT5 Drifting Forum.
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Please tell me more about proof of AWD drift prowess...don't forget about Kumakubo's Evo and STi..ohh Nomuken's ER34 is a great example too..lolNinjaMike808
Oh and about unfair? Please someone, help me recall that drift competition that has no rules and regulations about tire type and max horsepower...you know that non existent one?
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And just like that, NinjaMike's point was proven.
I'm sure people would happily oblige once you explain how that is supposed to prove anything regarding why arbitrary exclusions for cars used in drifting somehow aren't arbitrary, since the OP didn't manage to do so.Please someone, help me recall that drift competition that has no rules and regulations about tire type and max horsepower...you know that non existent one?
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Should have ended here 👍
Still doing scored runs ayy
"try hards" is actually a good word for it
Also cars that arent really good for drifting.
You do know that we have come to a point in time where people actually are able to convert there cars to RWD right? I know... Amazing isnt it
Please tell me more about proof of AWD drift prowess...don't forget about Kumakubo's Evo and STi..ohh Nomuken's ER34 is a great example too..lol
Oh and about unfair? Please someone, help me recall that drift competition that has no rules and regulations about tire type and max horsepower...you know that non existent one?
👍If yall wanna run the car go ahead nothing wrong with messing around. But when this car becomes your #1 car that you always use and bring to battles then you have a problem.
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He used a rwd converted vehicle as his basis for justifying awd as a viable drift platform; point not proven...now if he had talked about the adventures of the Alm Brothers @ Gatebil, he'd have a bit more of a leg to stand uponToronado
I'm on the mobile app, so not really in a position to read the OP, but I'll try to simplify what the sentiment amongst the GTP drifting seems to be...drifting, whether in competition or for fun is supposed to be performed by rwd vehicles unless otherwise specified and agreed upon by a majority of those present; what tires are chosen to drift on have an effect on the angle, speed and smoke of the vehicle while drifting, and unless otherwise specified should be able to maintain a nice close tandem with other players while either leading or following; some vehicles in the game have increased levels of grip; due to downforce, tire width, or just interesting programming, and as such are more prone to regaining traction quicker than other vehicles...the GT1(along with some vipers, and rx7s as I recall), according to what seems to be the majority of the GTP drifting community, has an unfair advantage whilst drifting. Those are the criteria we have laid out for ourselves..if you happen to be a contrarian to this, then the problem is not the "snobbery" of the drifting community, but rather the odd desire that a contrarian would have to be a part of that community given the "jealousy" that runs rampant....go form a racing soft awd X2011 max downforce drift meet/community if that's what makes you happy, just don't moan because it's not something the GTP drift community wants to sign up for..Toronado
Edit: OMG I just reread the guy's post and he's drifting for frickin points...nevermind; do what you do buddy and maybe you'll start scoring some Cerbera numbers with that GT1.
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Niko_KaidoRacers hit the nail on the head last night when I put the GT1 Turbo on the track in the lobby he hosted. The power house amuse S2000 GT1 is a purpose-built car to tackle touge racing, where grip is of utmost importance. The car has the aero that it has so that it stays planted oh-so-very firmly on the road surface no matter how little grip the tires have when subjected to 600+ horses; herein lies the unfair advantage that the car possesses. That being said, the car is as much fun to slide as it is not a drift car, thanks to the control available even when running the lowest grade tires possible.
Tire restrictions are used to even the playing field, but aero and 4WD (I know, the OP was referring to the S2000 GT1 and it's not 4WD but the thread hasn't ignored the drivetrain layout) benefit from increased grip even when using the same tires and should thereby be restricted from any situation where the even playing field is desired. Just my $0.02.
Tire restrictions are used to even the playing field, but aero and 4WD (I know, the OP was referring to the S2000 GT1 and it's not 4WD but the thread hasn't ignored the drivetrain layout) benefit from increased grip even when using the same tires and should thereby be restricted from any situation where the even playing field is desired. Just my $0.02.
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For GTP drifting community : There should be 2 list of all cars in GT5 that eligible for use in drifting, one list for fun, another list for competition, their power limit should also be included. These lists should be approved by all GTP drifting community members, then all of these debate about what's fair or not could be done with.
As for myself, I don't care about the car or tires used for drifting, my goal is to have fun and not nitpicking about what not, besides winning in a virtual drift competition without having any real prize but an inflated ego is rather pointless. I have come to the point that drifting is for sheer joy to myself and to anyone who watched it, not for my ego of being better than others in tandem battle or great for nothing winning battle record.
As for myself, I don't care about the car or tires used for drifting, my goal is to have fun and not nitpicking about what not, besides winning in a virtual drift competition without having any real prize but an inflated ego is rather pointless. I have come to the point that drifting is for sheer joy to myself and to anyone who watched it, not for my ego of being better than others in tandem battle or great for nothing winning battle record.
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Dude. This forum had specific rules put up because people would attack others simply for discussing not using Official GT5 Drift Forum Sanctioned Drivetrains™, to the extent that the entire forum was nearly closed over it. Who exactly do you think you'll convince that there is no elitism when you are doing it in a thread that only exists because the OP wants to further exclude specific cars for arbitrary reasoning?
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I am waiting for Killer to pop in this thread and prove some points
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The only point to be made is as follows: if you buy a GT1 and race it, then it is a race car. If you buy a GT1 and drift it, then it is a drift car. Every S13 isnt a drift car, so why would every GT1 be a race car? Hell, you see super GT cars drifting fairly often. The only point is, the car is a piece of metal that does whatever you want it to
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I should say that all FR street car in GT5 are not drift/race purpose car but they are all can be used for drifting or racing - all with proper tuning and still, Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo is a modified street legal car.
If in real life I have street legal Ridox JZA80 Supra with large rear wing, coil overs all around, full aero body kit JGTC spec, roll cage and diffuser, smack a big single turbo on it, have 700ps and it broke touge record, then I proceed to drift the car at the nearest track after some quick adjustment. Then, suddenly some people said it's not a drift car, but a race purpose car, while it's still street registered. That isn't right ...
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As someone who has been drifting the GT1 Turbo since I bought the game and have pretty much sworn by that car I can say..
People that are new to the game get the car for the looks, they stay for it's ability to initiate and be fast. That's all...
Can they control the car.. not at all.
Whenever I go into a room and I pull out my S2K, random people try to follow suit and they get left behind or start crashing into people because they can't control it. The S2K is NOT an easy car to handle. Just like any other car it takes practice and skill to be able to control it.
I'll admit, when I first got the car I had a tune that was like "all downforce" and had tons of power.. Now, I have the downforce down as low as possible and the car is only about 550 HP just so I can keep up with all the Aristo's and BMW's that people seem to use now.
I don't really find it fair that people take ONE look at the car and just figure... this guy's a noob. I can prove with ANY tuned car in my garage that I have skill. (not bragging but it's not a fair assumption)
Kinda funny to hear about the complaining of GT1s when a year ago, no one cared about them. Then I come along and it's the only car I use and people complain about it.. gimme a break. It's also pretty funny how about 4 months ago, people would only use Vipers, M5's, Vette's, and Camaro/Chargers. No one ever complained then..
All in all.. Who cares? It's a game.. sheesh
You guys act like there's a glitch in the Matrix or something -.-
People that are new to the game get the car for the looks, they stay for it's ability to initiate and be fast. That's all...
Can they control the car.. not at all.
Whenever I go into a room and I pull out my S2K, random people try to follow suit and they get left behind or start crashing into people because they can't control it. The S2K is NOT an easy car to handle. Just like any other car it takes practice and skill to be able to control it.
I'll admit, when I first got the car I had a tune that was like "all downforce" and had tons of power.. Now, I have the downforce down as low as possible and the car is only about 550 HP just so I can keep up with all the Aristo's and BMW's that people seem to use now.
I don't really find it fair that people take ONE look at the car and just figure... this guy's a noob. I can prove with ANY tuned car in my garage that I have skill. (not bragging but it's not a fair assumption)
Kinda funny to hear about the complaining of GT1s when a year ago, no one cared about them. Then I come along and it's the only car I use and people complain about it.. gimme a break. It's also pretty funny how about 4 months ago, people would only use Vipers, M5's, Vette's, and Camaro/Chargers. No one ever complained then..
All in all.. Who cares? It's a game.. sheesh
You guys act like there's a glitch in the Matrix or something -.-
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Told you he was gunna come in here and reek all kinds of havoc on this thread lol.
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Very well stated, killer. My inner English teacher wishes to give you an A+ in being rad.
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This thread has passed its used by date can't even be leave its still around who cares what people drift as long as its not FF or 4wd
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Mad4missiles
Ff drifters? What is this, mariokart?
Mad4missiles
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Don't know if you seen it but a while ago there was a thread on here started by a certain noob who was trying to tell people that FFs drift lmao
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Yea I did.
