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Spurgy 777
You do realise apex speeds aren't that important? You're probably losing a lot of time on the exit if you have a faster apex speed.
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Sorry Spurgy 777
it is really not in that way.
Your case is if you going wide on the curb or grass,
and I dont do that, I am on the racing line.
Ciao.
 
BanditKarter22
If you didn't waste this time posting this stupid thread then you could be down to a 2:17 by now! :lol:
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I doubt it, he's not going to find that much if he struggles to get gold or struggles to accept that everyone faster than him are not cheats. Under 2'20 should be gettable for everyone though I think or at least the target.
 
MonzaDriver1
Sorry Spurgy 777
it is really not in that way.
Your case is if you going wide on the curb or grass,
and I dont do that, I am on the racing line.
Ciao.
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You don't understand, you will be waiting much longer before you can get on the throttle properly. I could be faster than Ti-tech at every apex if I wanted to, and not go onto the kerb/grass, but I would have to wait ages to get on the power. That's where I think you're losing all of your time.
 
Spurgy 777
You don't understand, you will be waiting much longer before you can get on the throttle properly. I could be faster than Ti-tech at every apex if I wanted to, and not go onto the kerb/grass, but I would have to wait ages to get on the power. That's where I think you're losing all of your time.
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I will put a lot of attention on this side.
If I am not wrong all of you race without traction control,
so you too have to wait to press down the throttle to dont get wheelspinning. If I remember right the replys.
Marco.
 
ASH32
I doubt it, he's not going to find that much if he struggles to get gold or struggles to accept that everyone faster than him are not cheats. Under 2'20 should be gettable for everyone though I think or at least the target.
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For me it's impossible to go under 2.23, and yes I struggle to get gold.
Or more precisely when I am really close to know the track the gold come along itself.
MonzaDriver1
 
MonzaDriver1
For me it's impossible to go under 2.23, and yes I struggle to get gold.
Or more precisely when I am really close to know the track the gold come along itself.
MonzaDriver1
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I couldn't get under 2'20 for a while and my lap is now a 2'18.8 and it's easy to see I made mistakes in it. The only way to improve is lots of laps and maybe a bit of watching and learning from the fast guys. Also don't bother with the traction control as it will only slow you down.
 
I've not played GT for some time and only downloaded the GT Academy demo the other night. I don't play much any more because I get pain in my hands after a while of using the DS3 (misspent youth and all that!), and I don't have a wheel any more (as I was rubbish with it anyway)... yet I managed a 2.22:8xx without too much difficulty on my first session. But for me, getting below 2.20 will be a significant challenge - I reckon it's doable, but that's the limit of my ability. I'm going to study some replays next and see where I'm likely to be able to improve, but I'm under no illusion that I'll likely struggle to get near 2.20, let alone anything better. I realized long ago that it's all down to individual technique, and alot of people have spent years of solid practice developing theirs. I have played GT for 15 years but my commitment to the game peaked a long time ago, and that is reflected in the fact that I cannot realistically hope to get anywhere near the top of the GTA leaderboards* as a casual gamer with knackered thumbs 👍👎

* unless Spurgy 777 fancies an all-expenses paid trip to Glasgow :dopey:💡
 
Spurgy 777
You don't understand, you will be waiting much longer before you can get on the throttle properly. I could be faster than Ti-tech at every apex if I wanted to, and not go onto the kerb/grass, but I would have to wait ages to get on the power. That's where I think you're losing all of your time.
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Ciao Spurgy 777
I put a lot of attention in not looking at the apex speed,
and concentrate on exit alone, compared to your reply,
we accelerate almost at the same time, or at the end of the day,
the difference really could not mean 7 seconds.

I noticed that GT6 is more rewarding in driving smooth than GT5.

MonzaDriver1
 
MonzaDriver1
Ciao Spurgy 777
I put a lot of attention in not looking at the apex speed,
and concentrate on exit alone, compared to your reply,
we accelerate almost at the same time, or at the end of the day,
the difference really could not mean 7 seconds.

I noticed that GT6 is more rewarding in driving smooth than GT5.

MonzaDriver1
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Essentially it has taken 10 pages to tell us that even after implementing our advice, you are incapable of improving. You should stay around the threads that focus on improving technique and put more time into analysing your mistakes rather than accusing everyone of cheating.

Where does the time difference of cheaters stop and the true world best begin? If you look at the spread of times, they are not consistent with cheating, if there was cheating there would be a group a long way ahead of everyone else, but the spread of times are consistent, with the elite pushing the boundaries of what is possible, a large amount of times in the 18's and thousands of times in the 19's.

That is still 5 seconds faster than you, are you saying that thousands of people are cheating, with no evidence of any hack files in existence? This thread should be closed, you are dragging it on and on refusing to accept reality. The reality is you are vastly behind the majority of players and must be, to get a time of 2:24 at max potential, all over the road. Either that or your brake pedal is stuck on whilst you are carving out these perfect laps where you apply power at the same time as the best in the world. Either you are lying, are trolling, or have dodgy equipment. Or PD felt like they would give you comfort hard tyres for a laugh.
 
ShaneUK
Essentially it has taken 10 pages to tell us that even after implementing our advice, you are incapable of improving. You should stay around the threads that focus on improving technique and put more time into analysing your mistakes rather than accusing everyone of cheating.

Where does the time difference of cheaters stop and the true world best begin? If you look at the spread of times, they are not consistent with cheating, if there was cheating there would be a group a long way ahead of everyone else, but the spread of times are consistent, with the elite pushing the boundaries of what is possible, a large amount of times in the 18's and thousands of times in the 19's.

That is still 5 seconds faster than you, are you saying that thousands of people are cheating, with no evidence of any hack files in existence? This thread should be closed, you are dragging it on and on refusing to accept reality. The reality is you are vastly behind the majority of players and must be, to get a time of 2:24 at max potential, all over the road. Either that or your brake pedal is stuck on whilst you are carving out these perfect laps where you apply power at the same time as the best in the world. Either you are lying, are trolling, or have dodgy equipment. Or PD felt like they would give you comfort hard tyres for a laugh.
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ShaneUk,
you are particulary harsh with myself, but I really dont deserve that.
I have no idea where a line should be draw between cheaters and dont.
Nor what a classify should look like with that incredible numbers of players.
And I have no idea what an hack file is.
Yes it could be that I am blatantly lying, among other things.
Unfortunately I dont know how to save and where and how to post my reply.
So to show you all my driving, braking and accelerating points and so on.
I use a Driving force GT, and it seems to me it works fine.

MonzaDriver1
 
Monza make sure your driving force gt is not randomly braking. It has happened to me once in academy and I have unplug the unit and restart. Look at your brake indicator while driving. It can make you 1-3s slower. Still a bit to go if you're aiming for 2.16
 
MonzaDriver1
ShaneUk,
you are particulary harsh with myself, but I really dont deserve that.
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Actually, you do deserve that. You have accused all of the best Gran Turismo players of being hackers, liars and cheaters and you dont have a shred of evidence other than your lack of skill.

Personally I think your rampant accusations are far more offensive than what Shane posted.
 
iamsupernasty
Actually, you do deserve that. You have accused all of the best Gran Turismo players of being hackers, liars and cheaters and you dont have a shred of evidence other than your lack of skill.

Personally I think your rampant accusations are far more offensive than what Shane posted.
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Last day Supernasty,
what time are you planning to realize 2' 10" ???

Ciao.
 
Silly discussion really. In all walks of life, there are people that are going to be better than you. There is always someone better than you. You just need to accept it and move on.

I'm a long time GT fan, but haven't been able to play for a few years. Finally got to sit down and have a go at this years GT Academy. I'd consider myself to be above average, but I didn't do brilliantly. I managed to get a 2:23.0 and am relatively pleased with myself considering I don't have a steering wheel and I've had almost no time on GT5. If I could string my 3 best sector times together I would probably only manage a low 2:22.

I've seen the 2:16 replays and I don't see any cheating. Just very clever, very consistent and very very skilled drivers.

The only thing that boggles my mind is the guy that got a 2:16 with a DS3. I don't know how on earth he managed it, but hats off to the guy.
 
ferreira
Silly discussion really. In all walks of life, there are people that are going to be better than you. There is always someone better than you. You just need to accept it and move on.
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Yes of course,
not by 7 seconds.
And this is not only about myself.
MonzaDriver1
 
I'm under no illusions as to my distinct averageness.


I was at Le Mans recently and they had a wild card for GTA France - GT5 in 370Z Tuned at 'Ring GP/D. The best time on the board was... not half bad, but I figured I could get a respectable time compared to it.

Had a bash, got within 0.9s in my 3 laps - got some approving looks from the GTA guys on the stand. I said to the guys if they thought I was good, they should see the guy with me - a GTA finalist from 2010 - who I said was 2s a lap faster than me. Sure enough he went on and in his 3 laps beat me by 2s.

So I had another go and matched the time on the board. And then the guy with me had another go and beat THAT by 2s :lol:

I quit at that point to go do some things around Le Mans with my daughter, but he went back a couple of times and got over 3.5s clear of me. And this was in no more than 3 lap runs - so in 12 laps I was 3.5s down.

Then one of the French GTA finalists from a couple of years ago - who'd been watching him - went and popped a time in 0.8s ahead of that. So I'd had 6 laps compared to this guy's 3 and was down 4.3s.

Scale that up to Silverstone and I'll take losing 4.5s over a month's worth of slogging as a win in my book. I'm absolutely nowhere near good enough to get on parity with Ti-Tech, but I'm not going to whinge about it - he's just better than me.


Plus I get to go to the finals anyway and write about them. They make me drive cars and they give me food, with no pressure.
 
Famine
You should probably re-evaluate your place in the scheme of things. I'm 2s faster than you and I'm crap.
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I agree with this.

I'm also faster than you MonzaDriver1, and I don't rate myself very highly either. Heck, I don't even own a copy of GT5, never mind a steering wheel. I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee.

I'm just happy to be in the top 30,000 out of 1.32 million participants.
 
MonzaDriver1
Yes of course,
not by 7 seconds.
And this is not only about myself.
MonzaDriver1
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The only way to close this gap is to look at yourself in the mirror and admit that you are slow. Because you are. If you cannot admit that you are slow you will never be fast. That applies to everyone in any field.

Go do the WRS qualifier; link is in my sig. Find out where you are in relation to some of the best drivers at GTP. I guarantee you will not be where you think you are. I wasn't.

Use this opportunity/information as a wake up call or reality check that you are not as good as you think. Improve your skill rather than accusing the elite GT racers of cheating just because you can't see where they are beating you. As the saying goes: lead, follow or get out of the way.

:grumpy:
 

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