You learn something new... - Cars you didn't know existed, until now!

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A Plymouth badged Ram, this is the first I've heard of it.
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The same with this Mazda badged Ford Explorer.
EDIT: It's called the Navajo.
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Had no idea Mitsubishi built their own Super Touring car.

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It was unveiled at the 1995 Frankfurt Motor Show, destined for the German SuperTourenWagen (STW) cup. Mitsubishi suddenly decided not to pursue the project, haven't been able to find out what happened to the FMS car though.
 
A Plymouth badged Ram, this is the first I've heard of it.
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The same with this Mazda badged Ford Explorer.
EDIT: It's called the Navajo.
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Ah yes, Plymouth trucks.

The one you have in the picture is the 1974-1981 Trailduster. It is not a rebadged Ram, but actually a Ramcharger, which is basically Mopar's version of the K5 Blazer. Here's a better picture.
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Then there was the 1983 Scamp (not to be confused with the Champ, the Plymouth version of the late 70's Colt) which is a rebadged Dodge Rampage. There were no real differences between the Scamp and Rampage other than trim names, colors, and starting price (Plymouth was a few hundred $$$ cheaper). Scamps are very rare, since they were only made 1 year. About 3,000 were produced.
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The other post-war truck that was a Plymouth is the 1979-1982 Arrow Truck (also there was an Arrow car, a rebadged late 70's Lancer). Arrow Pickups were essentially Mitsubishi Mighty Maxes, and there was the Dodge Ram 50, another rebadged MM, and it sold better and longer than the Arrow Truck. Arrow Trucks are also very rare just like it's Scamp sibling.
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Post-war Plymouth trucks were not sales successes, even in the slightest. Mostly because they were practically identical to their Dodge and/or Mitsubishi counterparts, with very minor differences. There was never really a demand for Plymouth trucks, all the Dodge versions of them sold much better, since Dodge was better known for making dependable trucks than Plymouth. Also, there was less marketing for Plymouth trucks than Dodges.

You also mentioned the 1991-1994 Mazda Navajo. Also did not sell as well as hoped, because of it's similarities to the ever-popular Explorer. Prices, performance, and amenities of the Navajo were not any different than the Explorers, so there's no reason why you'd choose a Navajo over an Explorer. Unless you were a very loyal customer to Mazda, which there weren't a whole lot of back in 1991 (in America), since Mazda wasn't a popular brand here in the US then like it is now.
 
Mazda still isn't too popular. They sold 1/3rd the cars Toyota did. (340k to 1 mill ish)
Still, they are much more popular here today then they were back in the early 90's. And when you say they sold 1/3 of the cars Toyota did, do you mean globally or for the US?
 
Found out about this thing while reading Curbside Classic:
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1965 Volkswagen AmiWagen Prototype, basically a Porsche 911 sedan. It was actually supposed to be for the American market only, to compete with the Chevrolet Corvair, but never entered production. It was completely based on the 911, and it had the same chassis, six-cylinder and transmission as it, but the engine was actually detuned to 90 horsepower.

There was also the AmiWagen Kountry Knecht Prototype, also never reached production.
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1965 Volkswagen AmiWagen Prototype, basically a Porsche 911 sedan. It was actually supposed to be for the American market only, to compete with the Chevrolet Corvair, but never entered production. It was completely based on the 911, and it had the same chassis, six-cylinder and transmission as it, but the engine was actually detuned to 90 horsepower.

The same "chassis" insofar as it had the suspension, engine and transmission, although the running prototype had a much smaller VW engine, I think.

I think this car is stunning, I'd forgotten all about it until I saw your pics. It makes me think of early Passats and something a bit NSU :)

EDIT: Besides, a 911 sedan would look like this;

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86-95 Brazil/Argentina market Chevrolet D-20. Looks like a Ranger...
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Simultaneously very Ford-Y and Chevy-y. In terms of styling, below the beltline is all Ford but above is all Chevrolet (those drip rails are a telltale sign).
 
Time to wake this thread up again, this time with something else from 1980s 'Murica that I was not aware of;
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The Ford EXP. I had heard of the Fox-based Capri, I had heard of the Ford Escort ZX2, but this is a Ford coupe that I had never heard of before. Would you look at those Toyota Celica-esque rims, it just oozes Eighties' from every single body panel. Apparently, according to this site that thoroughly describes the EXP's career, it had a special ASC/Mclaren version with both a turbocharger and a supercharger, which had as much power as Ford's own turbocharged engine at the time (oops, that won't sell cars);

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Also, I may get shot for saying this, but I prefer the older EXPs to the last ones. Their proportions may be way off the mark, and the frog-esque eyes are far from being beautiful, but hey, it stands out without having some sort of ghastly Halfords wing. Maybe I can deem it a guilty pleasure as well?
 
On a similar tangent, here is the Land Rover Centre Steer. It is, in fact, the original, first prototype Land Rover. It was given this nickname due to its central steering position, which was changed on the final production model.

The Centre Steer was, predictably, built upon a Jeep chassis and gearbox but used the engine from a Rover P3 luxury saloon. The production model would use the P3's gearbox too.

It was broken up for scrap in 1948 but a faithful replica of it does exist.

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Nissan Tiida
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Saw a saloon version of one of these today, never even heard of it before.
 

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