"You`re not using a wheel, that`s why you suck!" true or false?

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It's all a matter of what you're comfortable with and how far you want to go. I've invested in a Logitech DFGT, after 6 months playing DS3, and I feel I'm better with a wheel than using the DS3, mostly because I'm used to drive cars.

Keep practicing, fine tune your cars and ignore stupid comments such as these.
 
bdubclub
While this may be true, the fact is if someone is willing to invest the time and money on a wheel, they take this game more serious than the avg person with a ds3.
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True but not entirely...

I got a DFGT wheel as my missus saw it online, brand new, from Logitech for $119aud (courier charge included = win) and, being the best woman alive, she got it for me. I was only half decent with the DS3 but with the wheel I took between 5 & 10 seconds off the DS3 times, it is honestly worth every cent 👍
 
False , DS3 users can outperform wheel users.

Thought when I compare the 2 options I have DFGT and a Sixaxis ,
the DFGT is better for keeping track of other drivers on the track.
As with sixaxis I cannot check right/left when steering with left stick.

DS3 and Sixaxis users overall are less aware of other drivers when racing side by side.

Not to mention driving online with GH guitar or Drum controller.
Very difficult , alot of fun and not optimal for clean racing.

And then there is the limited turning radius of a DS3/Sixaxis.
Basicly a tune that works for wheel does not work as well with controller. (So , you cannot use other's pro wheel setups to the fullest)

This limited controller turning radius is IMO big disadvantage in race / contact situation when you need to recover from contact / own mistake.



MadMax
 
Heathenpride
True but not entirely...

I got a DFGT wheel as my missus saw it online, brand new, from Logitech for $119aud (courier charge included = win) and, being the best woman alive, she got it for me. I was only half decent with the DS3 but with the wheel I took between 5 & 10 seconds off the DS3 times, it is honestly worth every cent 👍
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I agree, it's a pretty sweet wheel, rather affordable (well, I have to admit I do have some expendable income) and quite precise. The only regret I have is the plastic used on the wheel that can lead to sweaty hands after a while and the annoying wobbly feedback you get on a straight if you release your grip on the wheel ( that's the game's fault though )....
 
OK so ken4228 got 2:10.337 on RS 600PP Spa circuit online. Mainly stock ARTA NSX '06 with notable changes being: Top speed set to 290kmh & Aero set to max.

Witnessed by PSN ID's: MeanElf & Crap_CasualRaces <-- This is Heathenpride, am doing enduro and using 2nd profile to support Ken.

After seeing Ken try I am curious to see the 2:04 - 2:06 - Can anyone provide replays?
 
I use a ds3 and mostly finish in the top 3 in online races winning a fair few on the bounce, I feel no need for a wheel
 
Heathenpride
OK so ken4228 got 2:10.337 on RS 600PP Spa circuit online. Mainly stock ARTA NSX '06 with notable changes being: Top speed set to 290kmh & Aero set to max.

Witnessed by PSN ID's: MeanElf & Crap_CasualRaces <-- This is Heathenpride, am doing enduro and using 2nd profile to support Ken.

After seeing Ken try I am curious to see the 2:04 - 2:06 - Can anyone provide replays?
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Thanks for that test.👍

The guy who said he can do a 2.00 ... please. :sly:
 
A wheel doesn't mean you will go faster- it may help with certain tracks and and more wayward handling cars but makes little difference to speed. It does however greatly increase the enjoyability of driving and might negate the effects of that injury 👍
 
Nismo GTi
Or should I just not bother going online anymore because I`m not using a wheel?

All input welcome.
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What else is there ? :D


I started out with a DS3 controller and i was not bad online. First place didnt happen much but i mostly ended up in good positions.
But with Electronic helps OFF it was frustrating to keep cars on a good pace.

Then i got my DFGT wheel for my birthday. (90euro official older wheel)
And at first i wished i never got it :) it was fun but impossible to drive.
But i kept practicing and now i am a good GT driver.
And now i can follow drivers who participate in online/team prize races.

To make this blur of words short: A WHEEL HAS A HARD LEARNING CURVE BUT IS WOTH IT ! (no need for a 500Dollar wheel :P)

only downsides are 1: u get tyred swinging the wheel around :)
2: i cant drift at all (is it just me ? with a ds3 i drifted better (read less bad))
A little sliding and sideway action is good fun but i mean Real drifting tokyodrift style i cant :(
 
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Coming from someone who has raced in real life for 14 years, I'm rocking the DS3 and really don't have plans for buying a wheel set up.. It just takes getting used to. The reason why I never used a wheel was simple, no matter what you do or how you do it, you won't get the feel of the real thing. Sims are all an eye and mind sensory trick, there is no physical g loading, it is not 120 degrees inside your suit. When you get to basics, it's just a game.
 
I use a wheel and still manage to fail quite hard when racing against kids. They have all the time in the world to be masters at GT5... while some of us only get to steal an hour or two every couple of days.
 
Heathenpride
OK so ken4228 got 2:10.337 on RS 600PP Spa circuit online. Mainly stock ARTA NSX '06 with notable changes being: Top speed set to 290kmh & Aero set to max.

Witnessed by PSN ID's: MeanElf & Crap_CasualRaces <-- This is Heathenpride, am doing enduro and using 2nd profile to support Ken.

After seeing Ken try I am curious to see the 2:04 - 2:06 - Can anyone provide replays?
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It sucks being right most of the time but someone has to carry that burden...lol. The real limitation of GT500 cars isn't in the cornering ability but in their top speed. You can't get enough top end out of them to get down near the 2:00 mark if you run them at their competitive hp which is 502 I believe. They corner like mad, but once above about 260-270 km/h they are really sucking wind.

TeamOrecaViper
I started out with a DS3 controller and i was not bad online. First place didnt happen much but i mostly ended up in good positions.
But with Electronic helps OFF it was frustrating to keep cars on a good pace.

Then i got my DFGT wheel for my birthday. (90euro official older wheel)
And at first i wished i never got it :) it was fun but impossible to drive.
But i kept practicing and now i am a good GT driver.
And now i can follow drivers who participate in online/team prize races.

To make this blur of words short: A WHEEL HAS A HARD LEARNING CURVE BUT IS WOTH IT ! (no need for a 500Dollar wheel :P)

only downsides are 1: u get tyred swinging the wheel around :)
2: i cant drift at all (is it just me ? with a ds3 i drifted better (read less bad))
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I must have got the best deal of all!! $99 CDN before last Christmas, at par with $US. I was lucky enough to begin GT5 with the wheel so I had nothing to unlearn. Couple of times I've tried the DS3 for laughs and I was terrible, in spite of using it in GT1-4.

I think DS3, with it's near instant turn lock to lock, is the preferred tool for drifting, although I'm sure there are some out there with a wheel that can drift quite well. I rarely drift but when I do, it's DS3 all the way.
 
I play just as good with a controller.
Owned both G25 and G27.
Did 24h Sarthe in two go's under 30 hours with the wheel most of the time but with the controller the last 4 hours because the force feedback was starting to feel on my arms after 8 hours of racing (had a 6 hour sleep in the middle of the 24h race).
 
phil_75
I can get 2.07 in Mazda TC 600PP DS3 All aids off grip REAL. RS Tyres

2.00??? where is that idiot?
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Who cares where he is althought I can probably tell you where he is, he's sat at home yanking away at all the big bites he's got off the forum warriors about a time he wrote on GTP :lol:
 
After using a normal controller from GT1 through to GT prologue I bit the bullet and bought a DFGT right before GT5 got released, I immediately sucked, like 10-20 seconds a lap slower sucked! Perseverance and sheer bloody mindedness that I wasn't going to waste £80 I'm now faster than I've ever been, not great but good enough for 4-600'ish on most of the seasonal TT's. 👍

I still say this little brats statement that you use a DS3 therefore you suck is rubbish... I race a group of friends regularly, many of whom don't use wheels and it's usually wheel to wheel racing, I'm certainly not running away from them.

Oh, and I can't drift for toffee with a wheel either, I can't spin it lock to lock fast enough with the DFGT... I use the DS3 for that... And the real car. :D
 
If you use a wheel, then you'd wheelie suck at the game.

Note: I'm not good at this game either.
 
spunwicked
I use a wheel and still manage to fail quite hard when racing against kids. They have all the time in the world to be masters at GT5... while some of us only get to steal an hour or two every couple of days.
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Well said!!

Dude, you sound like you need C.R.A.P, check out link in my sig :)
 
5 reasons why DS3 rulez:
#1 - At least one came free with your new PS3 👍
#2 - They can be used to play (almost) any game 👍
#3 - They are wireless (don't know if wheels are, my bloody cheap crap wheel isn't) :dopey:
#4 - You can throw it to a wall with some good force and it will...keep functioning (hmmm)
and last, and also more important - #5 - I use one :D
 
GTShadowKing
5 reasons why DS3 rulez:
#1 - At least one came free with your new PS3 👍
#2 - They can be used to play (almost) any game 👍
#3 - They are wireless (don't know if wheels are, my bloody cheap crap wheel isn't) :dopey:
#4 - You can throw it to a wall with some good force and it will...keep functioning (hmmm)
and last, and also more important - #5 - I use one :D
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All good points! my wheel (& only mine, no one else's) is the best in the world because my missus bought it thus avoiding the inevitable "you bought what now?" :lol:

Naturally I've made her regret it by using it as much as possible!!
 
You can be good with a controller, but a wheel is so much more fun! Isn't that the point of video games in the first place? Fun?
 
Haha....everyone is Vettel on GTPlanet. If you can take a GT500 car (you did say any car), take your pick, at around 600pp (601,602?), unless around 600pp means 680pp, and do anything close to 2:00 as in 2:01 or 2:02 or 2:03, then you are the absolute King of GT5 and there is absolutely no one on the planet that can touch you...lol. I'll contact the Kazzer myself and tell him to hand over the next driving contract to you, and also call Mr. Vettel and tell him to retire because he'll never win again...lol. 2:10 maybe...2:02, not a chance in the world.

I've raced lots of fast guys who use DS3's. DS3 offers some advantages over a wheel and some disadvantages and I think PD has done a pretty good job equalizing the two, although at the extreme end of the fast scale, I think the wheel has a slight advantage. As with anything else, practice, practice, practice, good tunes and consistency win the day.
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Talking sense again ^^^ 👍

Where is the guy who did the 2 minute time!
 
I use a DS3 and would say that maybe you can be a little more precise with a wheel? But I've always used a controller, using the joysticks for gas and brake, sensetivity at 7. The SLS Top Gear time trial I finished in the top 100 so I really dont know how much more a wheel helps. I still want one though lol.
 
I was online racing in the last week at the Ring. I raced about 4 races there in the same room with the same core of players. I drove 3 different cars. The one car I drove twice was the C6 06' at whatever PP was allowed.

I was about a minute behind the leaders on the first lap and didn't even finish the race as the timer was set to end the race 30 seconds after the winner crossed the finish line.

The best I did was to cross the finish line about 20 seconds behind the leaders on the last race I entered in the Corvette.

Some may have been using a DS3 while others were using a wheel. I have a very difficult time with the DS3 in driving games and feel like I'm all toes. With the wheel I feel so much more competitive and able to control the cars.

There are players that swear by the DS3 and have a difficult time with the wheel. These are typically players that don't drive or have not spent enough time with a wheel. Or, they have extremely good manual dexterity.

Don't feel bad if you are a minute behind the leaders in a race. It takes years to become above average. And while you're trying to become above average, the average keeps creeping up ;)
 
The 2 minute time guy has magically disappeared...
Back on topic it really doesn't matter what you use, it depends on how good you are with it. Simple answer isn't it?
 
You can still be as fast as wheel users with a bit more practice, but the wheel makes a huge difference on how you play the game. I was an average driver back in GT4 with a DS2, but I can proudly rate myself as a B+ driver now thanks to the wheel.

Whenever I use the DS3, I get BORED immediately. No wonder my other friends don't find this game appealing at all. With the lack of A-Spec events, I really would've ditched this game back in January. My $50 DFGT from eBay is one of the greatest things I have ever purchased. Trust me, GT5 is an entirely new experience with a wheel. You will become a better driver (hopefully) and get hooked for many many months to come.
 
Meh, just one of those kids that just came from Black Ops and think cause they play GT5 they feel that "they'zers arz b34st"
I'm really good with a DS3, but I really wish I can afford a wheel, I got enough space though.
 

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