holl01
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Nice splits minor shunt:tup: yeah, those 'stairs' (lol) are easy to negotiate, i found that the corner b4 is critical to get sufficient speed over those down hill dips, make sure u try and limit the effect of the TCS kicking in on the left.
i submitted my lap so early cos i had this insane like T2-finish, the corner after the downhill section i took it at 140km/h, which was an utter fluke and the last corner i did as good as it could realistically be done given that i wasnt in the best track position to take it as i struggled to veer over to the right side given the speed i came out of that last corner
With the setup, i basically do what u do, i start off getting rid of all variables like TCS then LSD, then i just pretty much use the same principles in all the setups i come up with, which are:
spring rate- always make the front slightly higher than the rear to induce slight oversteer as the front end will be more responsive than the rear. And i just approximate the values when considering how much curb hopping there is involved in the track. softer springs for more stability over the curbs. this track has alot of curbs, hence softish springs.
ride height- always try to reduce it as much as possible with race cars without going to the extremes (the dafault ride height can usually be downed 15-20mm with no side effects. and make the fron a little lower for more cornering response and to negate understeer.
dampners- i just make them 3/3 and 5/5 all the time, i really dont know much about other settings but these seem fine for bumpy curby tracks like seattle and opera
camber- just wanna increase the fron a tad to help with the slower hairpinny corners
toe- to promote oversteer which is usually the fastest way to drive around the track, just give the rear a slight -toe
stabalisers, u dunno, i guess leave them at default, the more u change the setup, the less likely u are of the car working for u when u take it out of the garage.
the rest of the setup should be easily tuned, just remember lsd is crappy, the BB is usually best left default, and the tranny left on an auto value is most of the time better than tediously changing individual gears in a false hope that it will actually make u faster when ur really just waisting time:tup:
TCS this week is required due to the cars power versus the grip, it simply cant power out on medium tires with 720hp, but who knows maybe it is faster, oh well i submitted as i cracked into the second barrier that i was aiming for:tup:
MinorShuntWow! Lots to talk about here. 👍
Nat. I don't see the harm in putting up Casio's time. If I know him, he will have it cleaned up and bettered in the next day or so anyway. 👍
I have the feeling this will be Casio's last week in D2. Anyone else get that feeling?Nice splits mate!
As far as setups go, I don't think anyone could ever go wrong using holl01's setups. 👍 They are always fast, tight, and flat handling. But sometimes I think that him using the DS2 must be a little different than the DFP, because this week, I just can't make his setup work for me.
To tell the truth, for me, GT4 setups are very frustrating. Sometimes I wonder if there is any rhyme or reason to it at all.
GT3 setups, I understood well. In a previous life, I built and setup sportsracers in SCCA, and the GT3 settings followed very well what I used to do in RL. But I have to say that with GT4, a lot of times I'm just lost when trying to reason out why I do a setup a certain way. So I just start at some point with a setup, by turning off aids and lsd, and run a lap. Then it's just a matter of doing this and that till it feels fast and comfortable.
I really hate doing it that way! I end up getting settings that to me, make no sense, but seem to work. It shouldn't be that way. 👎
Anyway, moving on. MisterWeary don't worry about only getting 1 of 4 at the first chicane. That's about right if you're really trying to nail it. It's either going to be perfect or shunted.
I just got done with a nice session. Played around with a lot of settings just for the hell of it, but actually came back to the one I posted last night. Never thought it was that great of a setup, but again it just feels right.
I'm kinda choked 'cause my best lap turned out to have a wall spike in it that I couldn't feel, but can see on the analyzer. It was a beauty of a lap, (T1-15.928 T2-52.278) and the finish after T2 was perfect, which is about a 1 in 4 proposition in itself.
So anyway, my best clean lap so far is:
T1: 16.046
T2: 52.305
But I'm not going to rest on this one. I didn't hit the stairs right, and lost .25 at the end. I'll have to give it at least one more go to try and clean up that last sector.
It's a hell of a race you've served up this week Cyril. 👍
Later all!
Nice splits minor shunt:tup: yeah, those 'stairs' (lol) are easy to negotiate, i found that the corner b4 is critical to get sufficient speed over those down hill dips, make sure u try and limit the effect of the TCS kicking in on the left.
i submitted my lap so early cos i had this insane like T2-finish, the corner after the downhill section i took it at 140km/h, which was an utter fluke and the last corner i did as good as it could realistically be done given that i wasnt in the best track position to take it as i struggled to veer over to the right side given the speed i came out of that last corner
With the setup, i basically do what u do, i start off getting rid of all variables like TCS then LSD, then i just pretty much use the same principles in all the setups i come up with, which are:
spring rate- always make the front slightly higher than the rear to induce slight oversteer as the front end will be more responsive than the rear. And i just approximate the values when considering how much curb hopping there is involved in the track. softer springs for more stability over the curbs. this track has alot of curbs, hence softish springs.
ride height- always try to reduce it as much as possible with race cars without going to the extremes (the dafault ride height can usually be downed 15-20mm with no side effects. and make the fron a little lower for more cornering response and to negate understeer.
dampners- i just make them 3/3 and 5/5 all the time, i really dont know much about other settings but these seem fine for bumpy curby tracks like seattle and opera
camber- just wanna increase the fron a tad to help with the slower hairpinny corners
toe- to promote oversteer which is usually the fastest way to drive around the track, just give the rear a slight -toe
stabalisers, u dunno, i guess leave them at default, the more u change the setup, the less likely u are of the car working for u when u take it out of the garage.
the rest of the setup should be easily tuned, just remember lsd is crappy, the BB is usually best left default, and the tranny left on an auto value is most of the time better than tediously changing individual gears in a false hope that it will actually make u faster when ur really just waisting time:tup:
TCS this week is required due to the cars power versus the grip, it simply cant power out on medium tires with 720hp, but who knows maybe it is faster, oh well i submitted as i cracked into the second barrier that i was aiming for:tup:
(i hope i can make a difference here)
as per usual, a couple of seconds off everywher... LOL
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