GT4 WRS Week 42 : "No race"

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The 2 wheels rule obviously doesn't apply stricto sensu when the car is airborne. In that case, it is the projection of the wheels on the road that matters, so that it is still forbidden to jump over a corner.
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Thank god! :D :embarrassed:
 
I raced a couple of hours for the first time last night using holl01's settings. Zikwik's sounds good too, so I'll give it a try. Anyway, my splits so far:

T1 0'16.374
T2 0'53.829

I had a quicker lap, but I slightly touched the wall at the end of it. :ouch:
 
:scared:

had another 200km today

used Zikwiks setup with following changes:

drivingaids 0/0/0
LSD 5/15/10

and i got this here

00:16,256
00:52,256

terrible first sector, i know:crazy:
but i will not be able do do the rest with a 15,9xx or so, always become too nervous at the end:nervous:
 

Ok, I have tried Zikwik's settings and can honestly say that in the hands of the 'Aliens' amongst us, those that have no fear, those that can sometimes make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, they will work! surprisingly so!

However!
In my hands the car is too unstable over the bumps(not the staircase), too understeery out of the corners, and too in-precise to be any more than faster through the 1st chicane!
For the rest of the track, I find it too wallowy, too understeery out of the crucial corners ( 1st one after the chicane, left after the train-tracks, right at end of back straight, left at T2 and final 'corner')
Even though the ASM understeer is set to 1, it understeer's worse than without. Probably because the suspension, the shocks,the anti-roll-bars being so soft and the ride height being so high is causing too much weight transfer and reducing grip at the crucial moments (taking into account my driving style)

Obviously it is down to my driving style, as usual, but I don't like these settings!
I have since gone back to my previous settings (based on Holl's, Bless his cotton socks!) 👍

Have re-applied TCS ( I know,I know!) and have smashed the second barrier that means I am not a lemon! ;)

T1 16.948
T2 53.731 (proving that a fanstastic T1 on this course is not the bee-all and end-all. T1-T2-S/F is what counts)

Neil
 
Anyone else come across the phenomenon of improving lap time, but in the same lap doing worse splits? Lost 0.3 secs in each of the first 2 sectors, but seemed to get over a second better in the last sector to better my best lap by half a second. Thing is, the last sector didn't seem any better than before....

Bit confused, but at the end of the day, it's the end-result that counts isn't it? Sector times don't go into the results do they?
 
All the time mate!

Totally and utterly understand where you are coming from!

Take this week for example,

I have only improved my T1 by 1.15x seconds
But have improved my T2 by 3.550 seconds
And final time by 5.43 seconds

So, to improve your final lap times with lower splits is not unheard of, more very common!

Neil
 
Slightly improved my time. I think I can still take half a second off of it, but it's hard. My new splits:

T1= 0'16.216
T2= 0'53.469

I managed to make a T1 in 0'15.8XX a couple of times, but I always end up ruining my lap just after it. :P
 
Also might I add that my fastest lap, is NOT the lap that my fastest splits are from!

Just to add to the confusion!:sly:

Neil
 
When I started trying Zikwik's settings, I was posting better laps with splits that weren't as good. I found those settings weren't as good over the tracks and into that sweeping corner onto the ong backstraight. I felt there was way too much understeer. I couldn't get rid of the understeer without losing time though. If I could just get the back end around a bit more at the same speeds, my laps would be deadly. It's so hard to put all the right sections together in one lap. I've hit every corner perfect, but they are not all on the same lap, one turn ruins it all. I don't know how many times I've come down the stairs into that last right hander and smoked the wall. :scared:
 
Balls, how I can be .7 faster than you at T1 and yet level pegging at T2 amazes me ... I am doing something *REALLY* wrong in this middle section :(
 
Must be!

See the PM!

As I have said, a fast T1 does not a fast lap make!

In-fact I am not the only one to have said it.

A blistering T1 CAN and DOES have delaterious effect on the next 2 corners.
And concidering that the second corner after T1 is onto the back straight?..................

The rest of the lap is effected by NOT making a good entry onto the back straight!

Neil
 
I think others will agree with me when I say this. It's not the entry into that back straight I'm worried about, it's the last two corners before it that can really make or break your lap. The small section fromthe T1 time to the start of the back straight.
 
ballstothewall

A blistering T1 CAN and DOES have delaterious effect on the next 2 corners.
And concidering that the second corner after T1 is onto the back straight?..................

The rest of the lap is effected by NOT making a good entry onto the back straight!

Neil
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Falango
I think others will agree with me when I say this. It's not the entry into that back straight I'm worried about, it's the last two corners before it that can really make or break your lap. The small section fromthe T1 time to the start of the back straight.
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Is it only me? Or is that NOT what I said?

T1 to the back straight consists of T1-left-left onto the back straight!
T1 is AT the apex of the right hand corner before the left's

What's your objection to my post?, did I not phrase it right?

(Controlling the rage within!!!!!!!!!!)
Neil
 
Falango
I think others will agree with me when I say this. It's not the entry into that back straight I'm worried about, it's the last two corners before it that can really make or break your lap. The small section fromthe T1 time to the start of the back straight.
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Yeah, but these two corners will affect how fast you get in the back straigth. My fastest lap wasn't good at this section, that's why I know I can improve it a bit.
 
:banghead: :banghead: DOH!!!!! :banghead: :banghead:

Just did something really stupid. Did an unclean lap that was about 0.5 secs better than my best clean lap (currently saved).

Continued to do some more laps. One of them was clean and 0.2 secs better than my saved clean lap, but (obviously) 0.3 secs slower than my best unclean lap.

If that happens, can I submit (if requested) the entire replay, indicating which lap is the best clean lap? Obviously I can't save the ghost, cuz it's a dirty lap. It's all still quite hypothetical cuz I doubt I'll get a top time I'll need to submit, but this scenario must have happened before????
 
ballstothewall
Is it only me? Or is that NOT what I said?

T1 to the back straight consists of T1-left-left onto the back straight!

What's your objection to my post?, did I not phrase it right?

Neil
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Dude settle down, I am not objecting to your post. I'm just speaking my mind. I didn't even see your post so gimme a break.
 
Falango
Dude settle down, I am not objecting to your post. I'm just speaking my mind. I didn't even see your post so gimme a break.
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Fair enough!

Peace reigns!

Neil
 
Board updated.

I've had 53.3 several times now, so if I can nail that again with a decent finish, I will be a happy camper. What an addictive little combo.
 
Well I agree with Falango, the right-hand corner that occurs immediately after T1 and the next two left's are important for a good T2 time, particularly getting over the train tracks cleanly with speed to get onto the back straight nice and tight and fast. On my current lap I had a 0'16.456 and then got a 0'52.784 at T2 and the train track bit I took really well I thought. I find Zikwik's settings most useful for that part too to be honest, the rest of the lap holl01's settings work well for, but not the train track bit.

Anyway, welcome to the WRS buddy :) 👍
 
Kolyana
Balls, how I can be .7 faster than you at T1 and yet level pegging at T2 amazes me ... I am doing something *REALLY* wrong in this middle section :(
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You ain't now, are ya?

Your 0.363 faster at T1
Your 0.011 faster at T2

Now,

But my T1-T2 is 0.352 faster than yours, and i think I have the T2-S/F down pretty well too!

We'll see, We'll see!:) ( god, I sound like an old git!)

Neil
 
Okay, got you FatAss :P

As fort he board... it was created by Luxy some time ago, but he sadly doesn't have the time to run as much as he used to, so several of us have been keeping it up-to-date on his behalf.
 
Hey all, I'm debating on showing a "video of the week" on my website, which I"m kinda re-doing, where any driver has truly outperformed themselves, whether in Div 1, 2 or 3, I'm looking for big improvements from typical week results or you helped give someone good settings and lots of people benefited, I'd put it on my site's mainpage. How about that for some motivation? And I can't find the Chit Chat Thread eitehr...hhmm....

So what do u guys think? Good idea? Bad idea? I now have both PAL and NTSC GT4 games so 'most' of you can submit a replay to me (sorry China! lol)

jump_ace
 
Nice idea. If I can catch Kyle's current final time, I'll submit my humble lap as a good one (for me). I improved today a full second over my previous fastest lap and by leaps and bounds all week.
 
The chit chat thread is temporarily disabled, you can see why if you go into the archive. As for a video of the week, if I had a bigger download limit each month I'd love to download some NTSC laps, but atleast we have holl01, Zikwik and Kart on the PAL side so I can see what insane driving looks like :crazy:

As for the race this week I'm going to have another couple of sessions before submission time but it's always one thing or another with this combo, I finally sorted out the first corner and could get a 0'16.1 or thereabouts almost every lap but suddenly the train tracks are giving me grief, and if I get them right then it's the corner at the bottom of the stairs! Really neat combo but it comes with a good share of frustration too.

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For those who are interested I've been trying to get a new idea off the ground in relation to the next Board Challenge which you can see here. One of the interesting things about my little endeavour is dealing with the other boards and I have been having a bucket of fun with this site. If you're bored just translate something from English to another language and then back again, it's been amusing me no end...here's my post after going from English - German - English:

The Goer, which is temporarily unfit Schwaetzchengewinde, it can you see why, if you enter into archives. Like which a screen concerns the week, if I had a larger Downloadbegrenzung everyone month, became I love, any NTSC of laps to downloaden, but to have atleast we holl01, Zikwik and Kart on the comrade side, therefore I can see, which spirit-ill driving looks

Which concerns running sorted this week, which I will have another pairs of learning sections, before subordination time however it a thing or a different one is always with this combined, I finally, from the first corner and could a 0'16.1 or thereabouts nearly each lap receives, but the course rails suddenly give me wrong, and if I receive them quite then, it is the corner at the lower surface of the stairs! Really tidy combined however come with a good portion of frustration also.
 
Well, I finally had my first DFP session with GT4 tonight, after having been playing LfS for pretty much all weekend.

I have to say it is a lot more fun with the wheel, but my times with it are not quite up to speed, yet. I tried some of the earlier WRS's (done with the DS2), to have a time to compare to, and my times with the wheel are still ~4 seconds slower :indiff:

Anyway, I am sure I will get used to it, eventually.

As for this WRS...

T1: 17.3xx
T2: 56.6xx

👎

I'll work some more on it, tomorrow.
For this week I will just be satisfied if I don't get the worst time overall :D

The Wizard.
 
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