How to take it to the next level in GT7?

[newmedia_dev]

Perhaps. I'm just posting empirical evidence, whatever conclusions you draw from that is up to you 🙂

And I'm just saying that you can't draw conclusions that way when you compare someone who sets gold times wheel and controller in the first couple of hours of a TT and doesn't revisit them.

 

[Lightpilgrim]

Just for fun, I picked F3500 and tried it at Spa! This was so cool! No assists, just ABS

 

[happycorey]

First of all: Spa is an amazing track! Apart from the iconic nature and layout, I also like the car GT7 gives you to drive and I also love how light touches the track in Sector 4. Beautiful!

So passion-wise, I have every intention to master the track.

Today, I went to try all sectors, one by one again.

Sector 1. Most of the time I was 0.2 sec slower than Gold. I was going through Eau Rouge flat out. I had relatively good exit off the slow corner, but perfection is needed. I did Gold again:

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Sector 2. This was the most difficult sector for me yesterday and I did 30-50 attempts before I got Gold. Today, all my attempts were 0.1-0.3 sec off Gold, but after 4-5 attempts I got Gold and improved my time from yesterday.

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Sector 3. Again, most attempts are 0.1-0.3 sec off Gold and after several I got Gold again.

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Sector 4. I got the breaking point wrong 2 times today, but after a few attempts I got Gold and improved on my time from yesterday.

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Then I did a full lap a couple of time and was always 3 sec slower than Gold. I managed to improve and got to 2.6 sec off Gold. I know I can find another 0.6 as I see where I made mistakes. But I have no ideas how to improve more and where to find another 2 seconds.

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Here is the lap with data:

Now, how can I improve? Where to start? What to do next?

My ideas:

• try to reduce TC to 2 from 3. Can it make me go faster?
• I shall probably try each sector many more times until I get Gold every time and will beat the required time comfortably so that I could feel I have a margin
• shall I also get the same car that is offered in CE and do lots of laps in TT? This was I will see lap after lap where I am improving or not.

What are the suggestions? Thank you!

I know there was some great input provided but I wanted to add a few things I didn't see mentioned.

T4: Brake later
T6: Good job not braking and carrying speed, but by hitting the apex you'll be able to accelerate much sooner and carry the speed into T7
T7: Brake later. A LOT of coasting into and through the turn.
T8: Don't brake, turn in and let the car scrub some speed. Trail brake if you need to to rotate the car, but you can roll onto the throttle pretty easily here if you set it up properly.

The no assist lap was good on a few things but still very slow into corners. Turning genrally scrubs just enough speed sometimes to nullify using the brakes so harshly.

 

[Lightpilgrim]

Thank you very mich for all suggestions! I will practice when I get a chance in a next several days:-)

I need to think and memorize it. Learn 3-4 break points that I struggle with. Practice more.

This is my way to memorize:-)

I know there was some great input provided but I wanted to add a few things I didn't see mentioned.

T4: Brake later
T6: Good job not braking and carrying speed, but by hitting the apex you'll be able to accelerate much sooner and carry the speed into T7
T7: Brake later. A LOT of coasting into and through the turn.
T8: Don't brake, turn in and let the car scrub some speed. Trail brake if you need to to rotate the car, but you can roll onto the throttle pretty easily here if you set it up properly.

The no assist lap was good on a few things but still very slow into corners. Turning genrally scrubs just enough speed sometimes to nullify using the brakes so harshly.

 

[equalitus]

You're going about trying to improve in the right way, so keep at it. Just know that the more time you spend, the better you'll get.

This is correct for most players but not all players. I've never achieved gold in any online TT, which by definition [and factually] means that I've reached a plateau in which it's not possible to improve further to the degree that I would cross the threshold of precisely 3% worse time the top player. I can't remember if I got top 3.5% ever, would be curious as to how much slower than golden Gold level is my personal record.

 

[Lightpilgrim]

This is correct for most players but not all players. I've never achieved gold in any online TT, which by definition [and factually] means that I've reached a plateau in which it's not possible to improve further to the degree that I would cross the threshold of precisely 3% worse time the top player. I can't remember if I got top 3.5% ever, would be curious as to how much slower than golden Gold level is my personal record.

I would not give up. As with everything in life…you need skills, talent and consistent work. Marginal gains. You need a systemic approach and I am sure you can raise above what you believe is your current limit.

btw, guys…can you please help me think properly about these parts of the tracks? I struggle here the most:

1. Acceleration towards Eau Rouge. I was observing a ghost and I see that in order to get a proper line and not loose time, go flat out you need to enter it the right way. My problem area is this part. Somehow I am unable to nail this exact section properly and it compromises the rest:

2. Another one if from turn 9 and 10. There is mostly costing here, but I see that the ghost accelerates a bit towards turn 10, touches the apex, bounces from the kerb and moves to the right side and turn. There is no breaking here. I am unable to do it. I think I loose a lot of speed and time when I break and turn.

3. Right after there is turn 11. I am not fully able to understand the breaking point and how much I should break, how to go through that corner and carry out the speed.

4. Breaking point before the Bus Stop. Overall I think it is after the 150 mark or around 125 (between 150 and 100). If I break good, I am able to go through the Bus Stop decent. Now that I do not use assists, I need to be gentle with emotions and acceleration:-)

The rest I know where I am making mistakes and I think I know what I need to improve.

 

[skydragon49]

@Lightpilgrim I know the cars are different but check out this guides for past Spa online time trials. You may get something out of these videos that will help you understand how to drive there.

 

[Lightpilgrim]

@Lightpilgrim I know the cars are different but check out this guides for past Spa online time trials. You may get something out of these videos that will help you understand how to drive there.

Thanks a lot. This indeed did help. Very different car and I cannot follow same breaking or acceleration points as it will not work, but his logic did help me think. Some questions remain thought…handling turn 9 and 10 in a Porsche that is used for CE. He seem to break a bit in his video. I do not know if I should break too or turn without breaking.

 

[Lightpilgrim]

Here is an update from my side. I had a bit of time this evening to give it a go.

RESULTS:

• at first, I was sliding like crazy and thought that I lost it. Was not even able to drive without assists
• progressively I have started to control and went to beat several of my records of individual sectors. In some sectors I am 0,5 sec faster than Gold requires
• I went to try a full lap. First 2 laps were 2 sec off, then I started getting better. I had a stint of 10 laps where I was always below 1 sec off GOLD
• my fastest lap is 2.18.794 which is 0.294 off GOLD (so close!)

PROBLEM AREAS:
1. It is not easy for me to get the perfect exit from Turn 1 (but 30% of time I do ok)
2. Going through Eau Rouge. Being flat out and keeping the lines is hard. This is where I see the ghost would go a bit further ahead
3. The whole Sector 2 and Turn 9 and 10 in particular is where I loose GOLD. I am struggling to do it perfectly. As I exit towards Turn 11, I see the ghost is running away and the rest of the lap I cannot catch up

Rest of the lap I am mostly able to do well. Not every single time, but often.

I got tired and lost focus, so was not able to gain the missing 0,3 sec sadly.

Maybe one day:-)